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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread V12, 1Darkside ! 1Nikon ! D800 rumor !

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post Sep 30 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 07:41 PM)
Not easy to find those actually, last time when I first bought my D90 + 18-105 kit lens. Shop offered me Nikon filter, RM120 I think for 67mm that time newbie straight said no and paid RM80 for a Kenko single layer 67mm UV filter ._. LOL. Damn.
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actually its very easy to find in PJ/KL.
around RM260-280 for 77mm.
used ones i seen a couple selling for RM180-RM230 or so.

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post Sep 30 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:47 PM)
So if I'm not into Sports Photography,is the extra focus points wasted?
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generally for sports, ppl will use 9/15/21 etc point AF on AF-C mode, depending on how many cross sensors the body has.
imagine trying to track a very fast moving object with just 1 focus point tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 09:19 PM)
A few of the motorsport photog I know uses single point AF. Maybe the cars are big enough and easy to track tongue.gif
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yea cars different.
try birds tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 09:46 PM)
That's birding tongue.gif

But I guess for birding its the AF-C with dynamic focusing... 9 or 15 or 21 etc. Still a single point, but camera automatically refocus to adjacent point if gone out of the actual focus point.
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yea, like mentioned.
same with some sports also where the players move in random patterns tongue.gif

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:41 PM)
sigh.reading u ppl talking by all this make me jealous.

Well, i have some funds.

Thinking of buying some second hand lens.

What to buy? trying ot  get 17-55, no 1 sell

Wide angle? any advise on DX?
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where got 17-55 no one sell?
search properly, i seen a few already this month.
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post Oct 1 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 11:52 PM)
Sold out pretty fast.
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lol, suddenly the lens back in demand again.
couple months ago got some 17-55 few months also never sell.
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post Oct 2 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM)
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g?  rolleyes.gif
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sure eventually come out, question is will u buy it at the price it comes at out?
i'm guessing it'll be around rm1.7k once released.
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post Oct 2 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM)
less than 2k, i can still afford to sapu le~ if like those 17-55 / 70-200 region.. i cannot afford.. sad.gif
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if i was u, right now just go out buy 2nd hand 85mm 1.8d, around rm1.1k.
else brand new also rm1450 only tongue.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:11 PM)
the 85mm 1.8d cannot auto focus on my body (d5100) if i'm not mistaken.. sad.gif

I looking for a longer reach for portrait.. also looking for a tele.. 70-300.. i know the two that i listed are great lens.. we pay for what we get.. since i cannot really get those lens for now.. i think i just use those budget ones lu~~ and i know there will be a difference in quality in that as well.. i just using an example of those lenses that i cannot afford at this moment of time. if they release the af-s 85mm 1.8g at that price, then i really have to look at other alternatives edi.. that was what i meant.. not trying to compare the 85 mm against the 17-55/70-200.. all of them diff category anywayz~ (portrait / standard zoom / tele)..

sorry for any confusion caused.. >_<
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oh, u got D5100...
then just go get the 50mm 1.8G.

longer reach for portrait, uhhh 55-300mm and stand far far back.
remember to buy walkie talkies also biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:41 PM)
i edi have the 35mm 1.8g.. was thinking of something further.. (hehehe~ i have this "thing" towards prime.. hahaha~)

the tele is useful for some other events as well.. (like in bird park or etc) haha~
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buy used AF-D 180mm f/2.8, settle biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 10:13 AM)
ok la.. i start saving now.. hehehe~ if the af-s 85mm f/1.8g not out by the time i have the cash for tamron 70-300, i will buy the tamron instead.. smile.gif thanks for all the teachings.. smile.gif
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why dont want nikon 70-300vr?
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 10:48 AM)
friend recommend de.. he also nikon user.. he told me.. nikon is good.. but the time gap between them.. the tamron should be decent cause it's consider newly released? a year ago? what think you? any advice for me?
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i never tried tamron, and not too fond of 3rd party, but i been happy with 70-300VR.
i got a 70-200VR2 now, but im still keeping the 70-300 tongue.gif

these were with the 70-300VR.
mostly at or near 300mm.
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at night, the AF speed suffers abit due to the f/5.6 at 300mm, but its still do-able if u know what ur doing...if i had a D3s then diff story tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 11:08 AM)
truth be told, i still consider quite newbie.. for now, can't seems to find the difference of pictures taken with both lenses (furthermore, i have no experience with tele lens yet..) unless i go pixel peeping that is..
btw.. those are some nice shots.. smile.gif ahhh~ dilemma~ lulz

oh.. and what are the .. issues/difficulty that I will most probably encounter when using tele lens?

any other users with experience of either/both lenses got advices to contribute?
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issues depends, what are u planning on using a tele for?

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the 70-300 non-VR cannot compare to the VR version.
loses out in focus speed, sharpness etc.
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those D800 specs look weird for one reason, the max fps is 4?
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Oct 4 2011, 06:22 PM)
36mp at 4fps not enough ah?  laugh.gif
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the need for high fps has always been there, else bodies wont be constantly increasing in fps, so those specs just go against what has been happening.
and then D800 with only 4fps? talk about turning away a fair share of the market if they really do that.

D1 5fps.
D2h 8fps.
D2xs 5fps.
D3 9fps, 11fps with grip.
D700 8fps with grip.
D300 8fps with grip.
D7000 6fps.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 4 2011, 07:46 PM)
because at such high MP it is rather hard to make it fast shutter speed.

even canon able to push, they can make higher with their 1dsmark3 which is currently 5fps @ 21mpĀ  smile.gif

very fast already at such high pixel countĀ  biggrin.gif
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but 1ds mk3 is a 3yr old technology.
the coming soon 5d mk3 which is 24mp supposedly can do 6fps.
u cant say just cos high mp, the fps cant get higher...else when D4 come out, and the fps isnt high, then how many pros u think will actually start using it especially with olympics 2012 coming round?


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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Oct 4 2011, 08:10 PM)

I'm afraid you got that one slightly wrong. the D3 has a built-in battery grip, shoots at 9fps in FX mode and 11fps in DX crop mode.

and I don't think Nikon is turning away from the market. rather, they'll try/follow a new one. there's a lot of hype about video functions in DSLRs, and seems like the 5D mark III would be aimed at those who crave for (even) better movie facilities. and so, the D800 will follow. I'm guessing that there will be a new segment for full frame cameras with lower resolutions and more basic video functions.
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oops, mislook that part.
but was just pointing out the fact that its not logical for nikon to suddenly have a drop in fps speed with their newer flagship model, especially with big sporting events round the corner.

and how low resolution for full frame cameras?
considering the supposed D800 is already quite high, it wont be logical for a flagship model to have anything lower...considering that both D700 and D3 share the same mp count...and most likely the D800 / D4 will also share the same sensor.
D3x of cos is another story tongue.gif

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 4 2011, 08:30 PM)
then do you know the reason why they cant implant higher fps on 1ds3/d3x

so far a proper dslr like 1d4 doing 15mp @ 10fps.
and its buffer size can hold up to 100+ of jpg.
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didnt i say something about 1ds3 being 3yr old tech?
d3x is about as old also.

so wat ur trying to say is, why old processor with high mp cannot do high fps? cos its old processor?
why not wait for new processor and see what it can do?
canon already got digic 5, nikon got expeed 3 already for the v1.
who knows if there will be expeed 4 with faster processing power that will allow for higher fps?

afterall, even sony A77, translucent mirror or not, fact is it can still process 12fps on a 24mp sensor with new tech.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 4 2011, 08:54 PM)
bro, the buffer is terrible,
you spammed 13 raw files wait long long for the buffer to be written to the SD card  laugh.gif

From there, I guess there is a limitation of buffer.

could be few factors combined together la, my assumption is only base on one factor only.
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yea but its still doable tongue.gif

QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Oct 4 2011, 09:14 PM)
about 3-5fps would be good enough for most of us. even the good sports photographers almost never fire at full burst modes, they'd fire short bursts. what matters more to them would be the short shutter lag offered by high-end cameras.
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short bursts is one thing, how many frames in that short burst is another.
both high fps and short shutter lag go hand in hand for the pros...certain sports no matter how good the reaction time of the pros they still can't guarantee they capture the moment...thats where the high fps comes in.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 4 2011, 09:18 PM)
Not much 17-55 around. Found 1 just now at RM3700, claimed good condition.

Third party lens aint bad, just wanna open for options.

So, 17-55 2.8 2nd hand at RM3700 vs Sigma 17-50 2.8 New below 3k, or Sigma 18-50 2.8, whats your take?
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actually i think if u hold out more can get lower.
i've seen a few good condition ones sold for around rm3.3-3.5k.
mine also i got for rm3.3k last yr.

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