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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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danmooncake
post Jun 12 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 12 2013, 09:53 PM)
Actually I think this time not bad to enter la. tongue.gif

Still long way to go, the foundation of financial market is still very weak. probably lag behind US for almost 30-40 years in terms of overall such as protecting retail investor etc..
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I think the best China play is still the US companies doing business there.. eg. the gaming companies like LVS, WYNN, MGM (or pure Macau play: MPEL). Seems to be doing pretty good. Chinese loves to gamble. brows.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 12 2013, 10:17 PM)
Actually I'm quite frustrating on how to value casino stock.
Many times I read quarter report from Genting, many times their revenue was good, but profit was so bad and they claimed it on less luck factor (customers won a lot). The earnings difference could be as huge as 30-40%! Like this how to valuate casino stock? Gambling too?  rclxub.gif
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Genting - the bad thing about this company is that they got the other businesses dragging it down, not pure gaming anymore.

Also, Genting with RWS is catering more towards the uncle/aunties gambling $1/$2.. wherease MBS (owned by LVS) is catering for
high end VIPs gambling in stacks of $100 bills.



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Oh..I think market wants to go red! Nice!

Down baby Down!! brows.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 12:11 AM

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Nice! My angpows are here... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 13 2013, 02:42 AM)
1600 coming...another 1% drop gaw dim!  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, need for it to fail and drop to 1550.. I can untung big time if that happens by next month. drool.gif
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 13 2013, 03:55 AM)
this is the time to see bear awaken or not.
if this still cannot awake it, then shall give up on bear this year.  laugh.gif
next week dunno fed will kacau the bear or not.  tongue.gif
sp up 23% in one year. healthy correction would be....10-15%? that would be about 1415-1500.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah.. if we can get 10%-15% pullback, that would be nice!

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QUOTE(countdown @ Jun 13 2013, 09:20 PM)
I can't believe it, Nikkei dropped 6% and now pre-market EWJ is positive!
Ok that's better....DIA touching.....
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Japan financial market getting severely beaten up again.. I guess what happens is when it was so overbought,
the last bull all in, that's when they all look at each other and turned into bears. laugh.gif




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post Jun 14 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 12:12 AM)
today's flat market could be a trap? only tomorrow can tell.  tongue.gif

very surprise to see finance.yahoo.com 's voting if people prefer a bigger screen iphone. The majority is NO!!  shocking.gif
sure boh? mostly voted by Samsung supporters is it?  brows.gif
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Maybe Samsung fanboys jacking AAPL fanboys. brows.gif

Anyway, SP500 1625 is the ceiling to watch. If bulls can ramp thru, then more upside otherwise,... like to see it down to 1605 level before trap door opens to waterfall scenery. laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 03:26 AM)
climbing up unbelievably steady.
i guess today's that's it.
tomorrow closing would be interesting to watch. unpredictable.  biggrin.gif

when is fed meeting next week? monday?  notworthy.gif
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Stealth rally from the low after open, 1610,

See that soft ceiling: 1620-1625, after busted, then it's all rocket fuel!
1640-1645 next resistance level.


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 04:22 AM)
QE ends, funds flow back to US market. US market should be bullish? And emerging market (like Bursa) should be bearish?  hmm.gif
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The problem is QE actually hasn't end nor has it tapered off. The market just anticipates that it "maybe" tapered off after Bernanke said that Fed "may" reduce buying last month if employment improves, that sent the market in panic, interest rate spike, bonds sold off, bulls became bears and everybody suddenly saying QE has ended.. laugh.gif

Imagine, if Fed announces QE really ending. maybe we'll see quick KABOOM. brows.gif

The funds will probably hoard cash and ready for another buy later if economy back to normal and healthy again.

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post Jun 14 2013, 10:27 AM

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Overnight, market really strong bullish close. But, I don't like this rally. shakehead.gif

S&P 1,636.36 +23.84 +1.48%
Dow 15,176.08 +180.85 +1.21%
Nasdaq 3,445.37 +44.94 +1.32%

Hoping we'll get head fake and whoosh down tonight. brows.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 14 2013, 01:23 PM)
maybe you are right.
He likes to talk a lot lately, much more than any Hollywood celebrity.  icon_idea.gif
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Heh-heh.. laugh.gif Uncle Ben in Superman outfit. I'm sure some of you seen this:
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Anyway, the whisper of a very remote 'tapering' spooks the market just barely about two weeks ago,
I mean, this is just talk only. No action yet by the Fed. You see how the market just reacts?

We're not even talking about ending QE, this is just their way to test the water and see if the economy is healthy
again and the Fed wants to reduce buying from $85bln to $75bln.. and just because this whisper only.
Even if interest rate rise (the Fed fund rate now at 0%), just it just 0.5% at most and that most likely won't happen until 2015 or later.

Everyone is fearing oh no, QE is ending, they going to raise interest rate tomorrow, stocks will tank and market will crash. doh.gif

Then, now bulls are ecstatic again , it was just a bunch of talk, no action yet until we'll get more clearer picture from Superman_Bernanke next week. whistling.gif

Oh well, I just wish we got more pull back.. this isn't even a 10% correction. sad.gif

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post Jun 14 2013, 10:19 PM

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Wow.. the China general market is dying here.. take a look at FXI and GXC. Horrible slaughters continuing.
Something is really wrong over there. hmm.gif
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ok... they're giving it back tonight!!! brows.gif
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Jun 14 2013, 11:20 PM)
Psss.... Look at crude oil

So close to 100  brows.gif
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Yes.. . but have you notice that Brent Oil price coming down but WTI Oil going up these past few months?
The spread is narrowing finally, sooner or later, they may cross each other. nod.gif


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post Jun 17 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 15 2013, 02:48 PM)
Is the spread between Brent Oil and WTI oil do indicates something?  notworthy.gif  hope you can shed some light to amateur like me.
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US imports less foreign oil now. More local production and consumption. Watch transportation stocks.. I think they're going to earn less in the coming quarter.

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QUOTE(countdown @ Jun 17 2013, 11:23 PM)
FDX? with strangle?
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Err.. nope. You can't send Oil via FDX. biggrin.gif

I thinking more like railroads than package delivery companies.
eg. CSX, CNI, CP...

Tonight, market continues upward with anticipation that Uncle Ben may help the market by Wednesday. tongue.gif


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post Jun 18 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 18 2013, 06:03 PM)
In contrary, I expect not much drama will be happen though I hope so
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The meeting starts tonight, the press conference starts tomorrow. If there is anything to do, position yourself before the press conference. laugh.gif

Overnight, the market was freaking out when some bloke from Financial Times published that "Fed likely to signal tapering move".. immediately Dow lost 150 pts from the top the last two hours before closing. Then, he re-tweeted.. "people just needs to chill out, the Fed does not leak out anything".. then Dow gained back 50 pts. Insane, huh? This is a very news driven market. brows.gif






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post Jun 18 2013, 11:29 PM

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Market is cautious here.. FOMC meeting underway, probably won't see big move until Uncle Ben appears tomorrow.
But, any leaky news could cause a knee jerk reaction from the market. sweat.gif
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post Jun 20 2013, 02:26 AM

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Uncle Ben says "BUY", so be it! I'm in! biggrin.gif

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