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post Oct 22 2011, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:37 PM)
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i mana ada cucuk u  cry.gif because u like to post statement without sources, and does funny claim (when u misunderstood the real feature) i just asking only...

btw, the price drop claim, please state it nicely, i also can say because i buy 70200G+1635+2470+135+85, super combo package + special discount, and i have 5 rm300 coupon, after deduct, my A77 i only pay rm300.... that isnt the right way to count it right?

1650 definately has goodness in it, with SSM, weather seal etc, but some of us, doesnt has the budget to go for it, so we settle with tamron, dont say tamron not good, because, my tamron (which i sold off) was one of the sharpest tamron around, few people touched and tested it, they know. even zstan's camera after calibration, his tamron as sharp as 16105 (i dare to claim it!) tamron seriously is not that bad. because u didnt try it, or read the reviews of tamron which is the canon/nikon version (which sucks) u cannot compare it with sony's mount version.

the 1650 is not at 2k, that is bundle price which usually is a 20% off from RRP (like A550+1680, the 1680 was valued at 2400), so the RRP is not that low. and i will know speculate the prices (or price drop) without solid proof (even thou i know the 1650RRP price)
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just kidding oni. but if we have rm300 voucher from sony, it is pity useless right, because every sony retail price every their product is few hundreds expensive than street price, it just make no different buy high price in sony get free voucher and the voucher could not spend in street retail shop.. hmm.gif
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post Oct 22 2011, 12:53 PM

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count so deep also no use, i know a lot uncle, friend who just buy from sony center with the rrp price, the rm200-300 cheaper street price dont bother them, because importantly, they get to use it already... and u are still there waiting for durian to drop.

i think my total shutter count reach 200,000 u still not yet get ur camera.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:53 PM)
count so deep also no use, i know a lot uncle, friend who just buy from sony center with the rrp price, the rm200-300 cheaper street price dont bother them, because importantly, they get to use it already... and u are still there waiting for durian to drop.

i think my total shutter count reach 200,000 u still not yet get ur camera.
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Lol +1
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post Oct 22 2011, 12:58 PM

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start like me with kit lenses... later.. jeng je jeng..
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post Oct 22 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(alphazal @ Oct 22 2011, 12:41 PM)
boss i'm stuck between this 2 lenses... any sample closed up using sony+tamron 17-50? i'm looking sharp lens for my jewelry photography..
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Dunno closed up enough for you or not, feel free to check the EXIF:

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post Oct 22 2011, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:53 PM)
count so deep also no use, i know a lot uncle, friend who just buy from sony center with the rrp price, the rm200-300 cheaper street price dont bother them, because importantly, they get to use it already... and u are still there waiting for durian to drop.

i think my total shutter count reach 200,000 u still not yet get ur camera.
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poor uncle like me to play this hobby, no choice need to count and it is not relate about wait durian to drop. if we plan it properly buy at street shop could save those money with 1 or 2 accessories
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post Oct 22 2011, 01:16 PM

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post Oct 22 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 22 2011, 01:13 PM)
poor uncle like me to play this hobby, no choice need to count and it is not relate about wait durian to drop. if we plan it properly buy at street shop could save those money with 1 or 2 accessories
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What accessories can u get with the saved money?

QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 01:16 PM)
jimlim: do u smoke?
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trying to imply he on weed? tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2011, 01:28 PM

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Zircon, who say kenot? Can buy 2 pcs AA battery or a flash diffuser, or lens cap, or hotshoe cover...
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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:53 PM)
count so deep also no use, i know a lot uncle, friend who just buy from sony center with the rrp price, the rm200-300 cheaper street price dont bother them, because importantly, they get to use it already... and u are still there waiting for durian to drop.

i think my total shutter count reach 200,000 u still not yet get ur camera.
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Hahaha....
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 22 2011, 01:13 PM)
poor uncle like me to play this hobby, no choice need to count and it is not relate about wait durian to drop. if we plan it properly buy at street shop could save those money with 1 or 2 accessories
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some people buy from Sony shop because of its warranty... or extended warranty.. i dont know. i buy second hand stuff only... not rich enough to buy that $6,800 Kwanon camera.
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QUOTE(alphazal @ Oct 22 2011, 12:41 PM)
boss i'm stuck between this 2 lenses... any sample closed up using sony+tamron 17-50? i'm looking sharp lens for my jewelry photography..
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You can't get nice jewellery pictures with 1750. It's not possible. Try the SP90.
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 22 2011, 01:47 PM)
You can't get nice jewellery pictures with 1750. It's not possible. Try the SP90.
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Use kit lens and raynox also can liao la no need sp90. Invest in better lighting is more important.


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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 22 2011, 11:04 AM)
tamron?? i seem it as pointless even budget is the concern. if you are saying back to the past, alpha user do not have much choice on walk around lens with 17-55 or 1650 range like in canon or nikon, i am agree to get copy of tamron. but now we do have new lens with latest tech. decent quality even in wide open, moisture sealed and most important cheapppppppperrr price.

Canon 1755mm f2.8 USM IS Rm3500 only (little expensive due to inbuild IS)
Sony 1650mm f2.8 SSM (Moisture sealed) RM2000 (but someone already offer at rm1850 in cari)
Nikon 1755mm f/2.8G IF-ED Rm4900 only
Tamron 1750mm f2.8 Non VC Rm1300? (i not sure, should be amost there)

you see the tamron is not dropping their price, the 1750 is getting old, out of perform by other. while i saw the different story for Voitlander 25mm f0.95 is drop their price like hell after panasonic introduce their leica 25mm f1.4 AF. It is really up to our own decision whether still want buy this copy. My take feel worthless. could rather save more few hundreds straight to get the Sony 1650 or get 2nd hand copy 18-55mm rm2xx to play 1st  cool2.gif


Added on October 22, 2011, 11:07 am

a77 price is alr dropped lo, from rm4299 --> rm3999 --> rm3899 --> rm3700 -->rm3600
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Your pricing, is seriously laughable.. Even some "lubang" i know also offering roughly 4k for body only. If price can drop so fast, then no need bother buy liao. Unker Chin can close shop straight XD

QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 22 2011, 12:27 PM)
No source means it's a rumor. Unless there's any physical evidence, then those 'sources' aren't credible.
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+1 Mr. William.

QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:37 PM)
jimlim007

i mana ada cucuk u  cry.gif because u like to post statement without sources, and does funny claim (when u misunderstood the real feature) i just asking only...

btw, the price drop claim, please state it nicely, i also can say because i buy 70200G+1635+2470+135+85, super combo package + special discount, and i have 5 rm300 coupon, after deduct, my A77 i only pay rm300.... that isnt the right way to count it right?

1650 definately has goodness in it, with SSM, weather seal etc, but some of us, doesnt has the budget to go for it, so we settle with tamron, dont say tamron not good, because, my tamron (which i sold off) was one of the sharpest tamron around, few people touched and tested it, they know. even zstan's camera after calibration, his tamron as sharp as 16105 (i dare to claim it!) tamron seriously is not that bad. because u didnt try it, or read the reviews of tamron which is the canon/nikon version (which sucks) u cannot compare it with sony's mount version.

the 1650 is not at 2k, that is bundle price which usually is a 20% off from RRP (like A550+1680, the 1680 was valued at 2400), so the RRP is not that low. and i will know speculate the prices (or price drop) without solid proof (even thou i know the 1650RRP price)
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Ini saya suppork. Tamron Ed ini super sharp even at f2,8....

And that's on an un-calibrated body, mind you.

QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 22 2011, 12:53 PM)
count so deep also no use, i know a lot uncle, friend who just buy from sony center with the rrp price, the rm200-300 cheaper street price dont bother them, because importantly, they get to use it already... and u are still there waiting for durian to drop.

i think my total shutter count reach 200,000 u still not yet get ur camera.
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Lol, your shutter will die before it reaches 200,000 laugh.gif

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 22 2011, 01:47 PM)
You can't get nice jewellery pictures with 1750. It's not possible. Try the SP90.
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Its possible, with close-up and skillz.

Sp90 / SP60 might be a better choice, though..

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i just like how the sp90 perform in my little nex
very versatile for shooting figurine smile.gif
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Guys before you flame jimlim007, have you made your rounds in Bukit Bintang? I can find the A77 body only for RM37xx quite openly. The RM38xx on the first page is a pessimistic figure.

jimlim007: What hands-on experience you want? I own a 24mm F2.0. I didn't just borrow it. Here's what I wrote about it when I first got it:

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http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1477

fas29: Nice, ada style!

This post has been edited by albnok: Oct 22 2011, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 22 2011, 04:12 PM)
Guys before you flame jimlim007, have you made your rounds in Bukit Bintang? I can find the A77 body only for RM37xx quite openly. The RM38xx on the first page is a pessimistic figure.

jimlim007: What hands-on experience you want? I own a 24mm F2.0. I didn't just borrow it. Here's what I wrote about it when I first got it:

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http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1477

fas29: Nice, ada style!
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albnok, is ok. I am already get use to this surrounded situation laugh.gif sense heavy sarcasm too laugh.gif not the 1st time. just hope could get new camera soon. the cz24f2, i mean you used to posted some sample you shoot when on past 2 weeks time i was in dilema in early consideration of camera+lens.

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Albnok, why does a Sonnar design means its not a very very sharp lens?

This was what steve huff said regarding the the 24mm Zeiss Sonnar.

So a distagon design would be sharper? Gah don't really understand the differences
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 22 2011, 02:50 PM)
Use kit lens and raynox also can liao la no need sp90. Invest in better lighting is more important.
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I mean without close up filters. Otherwise any lens also can liao. Sorry. Didn't state there.
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A dedicated macro lens is of coz always better than to use a filter.

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