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post Oct 18 2011, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 18 2011, 12:24 AM)
Where did you get that information from?


Added on October 18, 2011, 12:30 am

Yes, both of those lenses are fixed focal length lenses (also known as 'prime lenses'), one at 35mm and one at 50mm equivalent field of view. So, you can't zoom with them, you can 'zoom' with your legs though. Difference between the two lenses is in focal length.

There's no such thing as which lens is better suited for which body (apart from the Nikon D3/5xxx case where you can't AF with lenses without in-built motor). It depends more on what purpose you want the lens to work as. Do you need a wider or a narrower view? Go to the stores to test it out. Borrow the camera from a friend who has it and test it out if possible.

If you are really unsure of which to get and worry that you might get the wrong one, then just stick with the kitlens that comes with the camera for the mean time while you improve on your camera knowledge before investing in a prime lens.
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It's stated in the manual.. I put my 50mm on and it really changed to contrast AF.


Added on October 18, 2011, 9:07 am
QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 18 2011, 01:58 AM)
that if you use the MF liveview check thingie. normal QLV using phase detect.
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Oh. I'll try to set phase detect to default. Thanks. smile.gif


Added on October 18, 2011, 9:09 am
QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 18 2011, 02:22 AM)
I've updated the front page regarding the A77 and wireless flash.

8tvt: Yes it is written on the package.

There is also a Sandisk Class 10 30MB/s but you don't want that for the A77. wink.gif

e-jump: Nice! Love how the reflection is blurred out.

fansoption: Nice! It almost looks like a texture.

Newbieeeeee:

PDAF = faster because it knows exactly where to go once it has looked once
CDAF = slower because it keeps adjusting and checking

By nature the PDAF sensors are getting light that passes through the main mirror, reflects off the secondary mirror, into the AF chamber. The distance from the lens to the PDAF sensors should be the same as the distance of the lens to the sensor.

If not, you get a backfocusing/frontfocusing camera!

PDAF on sensor (which the Nikon V1/J1 supposedly has, but where are the tech documents?) solves this. Since there are no TWO distances, there is no misfocus from calibration error.

CDAF, because everything happens on the main sensor, does not have backfocusing/frontfocusing issues.

The A560/A580 uses PDAF in Quick AF Live View, and allows you to choose between PDAF and CDAF in Focus Check Live View.
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oh okay! Thank you for answering my noob question! notworthy.gif

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post Oct 18 2011, 11:53 AM

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A good preview of Sony a77...

http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2011/10/17/t...tomorrow-today/

And i think i found out what went wrong with my exposures on some of my shots..

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Be warned, if you use a single AF point you’ll also be using spot metering regardless of the metering mode set. It may have 1,200 metering zones on the CMOS sensor but it will prefer correct exposure at the point or points of focus.


does this happen in the a300 metering system? or just limited to a77? icon_question.gif

Should i go back to wide or centre AF during my regular shots? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 18 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 18 2011, 11:53 AM)
A good preview of Sony a77...

http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2011/10/17/t...tomorrow-today/

And i think i found out what went wrong with my exposures on some of my shots..
does this happen in the a300 metering system? or just limited to a77?  icon_question.gif

Should i go back to wide or centre AF during my regular shots?  icon_question.gif
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e-jump: You can't get any wider than the Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM II. wink.gif

zstan: LOL this was the best part:

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In your prime, you want to set twenty different things for every shot and switch from P to A to S to M with C or S or A and -2 sharpness and ten stop HDR then portrait look for the next one. Ultimately as the brain cells sneak off for a nap you find good old shutter speed, aperture and focus do you just fine.


Though I don't find much truth in that Local AF changes to Spot Meter - I certainly am not experiencing that!

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thats for bodies with no AEL button, no??

So Nikon long time have D3x, Canon sudah ada 1Dx, Sony punya A9x bila ?? laugh.gif
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mastering89: Got neX what. biggrin.gif

What David Kilpatrick is saying is that AF point automatically spot meters - I certainly am not experiencing it on one of these:

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Can't wait for the A77 to go to shelves. Currently some of my regular supplier still without stocks for A77 and the kit too dry.gif

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I will try my shots again with wide angle focusing and see whether got difference or not. It's been awhile since I used that mode.

On another mode, canon's 1dx seems very powerful. But their 14fps really nothing more than a gimmick. Copy sony's multiple shot noise reduction some more.

Wonder how the a99 will turn out.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 18 2011, 08:51 PM)
I will try my shots again with wide angle focusing and see whether got difference or not. It's been awhile since I used that mode.

On another mode, canon's 1dx seems very powerful. But their 14fps really nothing more than a gimmick. Copy sony's multiple shot noise reduction some more.

Wonder how the a99 will turn out.
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1dx $6800 blink.gif
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24,999 msia rrp. lol!

EOS 1DX is the pro of pro body, sony has no plans (thou rumored once) for PRO PRO body. it will be super sacred to sell them. i rather go medium format with that amount of money (after add lenses).

A9x(x) is level with 5D markXXX and D700/800 smile.gif but alpha has long way to go for FF...

surprisingly canon is not on MP race with 18mp, i hope sony will wake up, noone wans 32mp! we wan a simple sensor, if possible, selectable 16mp raw, and really GOOD noise control~, and a better Metering system! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zeipher @ Oct 18 2011, 09:47 PM)
no money buy expensive cameras. spam cheapo a200 + kitty lens shot  thumbup.gif  sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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got skill no need any expensive rig...only gear head need it..

amazing view of sunset! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 18 2011, 10:03 PM)
got skill no need any expensive rig...only gear head need it..

amazing view of sunset! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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disagree. good rig help you 50% success in shot
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 18 2011, 09:01 PM)
1dx $6800  blink.gif
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That's crazy. I'll still choose the a77, and instead of using the 1Dx for 10 years, I change my a77 every 2 years.
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 18 2011, 11:08 PM)
That's crazy. I'll still choose the a77, and instead of using the 1Dx for 10 years, I change my a77 every 2 years.
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You forget that A77's a crop sensor with 24mpx while 1D X is a pro end model which has way more features and etc.

No disrespect, but I think some people would get the 1D X and etc. No point harping bout the 1D X, its not ours to play with anyways.
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 18 2011, 11:04 PM)
disagree. good rig help you 50% success in shot
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nope, good rig only assist me about 5-10% only. most of my shot even a good rig cant figure what i wanted.
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a77 can continuous AF in speed priority mode or not a?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 19 2011, 12:11 AM)
a77 can continuous AF in speed priority mode or not a?
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I know the previous SLT can't do such thing. Even A580 can't continuous AF at 7fps.

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