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post Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 02:53 AM)
Liverpool vs Manchester United

Hi, I'm not here to troll

but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan

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you may choose not to reply if you don't feel like it. thank you
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definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand

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post Aug 30 2011, 10:06 AM

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No way..Meireles better than Bennayoun..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l-Meireles.html
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post Aug 30 2011, 10:07 AM

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post Aug 30 2011, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Aug 30 2011, 03:10 AM)
haih wonder why ppl dont read posts properly .. didnt i posted before & mention that Will movie will be released on october this year ? and from what i've heard on the radio, yes it will be screened in malaysia ..
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Excellent, thanks. Checked cinema listing, it wasn't there..
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM)
definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand
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Downing > Young , so far u see Young is good is because he hav meet our Enrique yet.

Suarez 2X > Berba, because Suarez dun sulk

and the real thing is

Coates > Ferdinand
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post Aug 30 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Aug 29 2011, 06:48 PM)
Heard that traditional winger is a dying breed..even in the english game where these players will race for the byline to send in a razor sharp cross for the strikers to score with a header....in fact liverpool tried to groom some of these player but without much success...we have mark kennedy who impress initially but couldnt make the mark...then we sign jason mcateer...but turn out didnt have the pace..then mcmanaman, who operates more as an AM....logically a right winger should be easier to find, afterall its right leg.. but as it is nowadays, not much stand out wingers available..i guess u can find plenty with pace but crosses sucks...those who can cross but pace sucks....which is why kuyt is still relevant, as he has a bit of pace, good crosses and plus point is he can defend and track back....earlier rumour about liverpool targetting aaron lennon...well i think he is quick but poor in tracking back and also crosses not quality enough. Nuff said, am happy with our current arsenal on the flanks
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It's probably because the game has evolved. Traditional wingers work well with traditional centre forwards. Big, strong and tall but these days, athleticism is the more sought after trait. Mark Kennedy struggled to hold down a regular spot but he did have big shoes to fill. Until today I don't think we've signed any winger as good as John Barnes. Says something that Kennedy couldn't even get a game ahead of Mark Walters.

Football formations have become more complex. Often the lineup you see on the telestrator is deceptive. Teams change shape and players switch positions very often in today's game. When attacking, teams can adopt a 4-3-3 but revert to a 4-5-1 while defending. There is actually very little point in having traditional wingers that hug the sidelines if you have a Suarez or Hernandez lead the line alone. They aren't going to win too many headers that's for sure. Downing started out playing wide but if you look at him now, he often drifts infield. Wingers also swap sides now so teams have an option to play narrow with wingers drifting infield to take shots on goal with their stronger foot. I'm actually fine with the idea of not having any traditional wide players, especially if you consider how adventurous fullbacks are these days. In recent years we've seen the likes of Glen Johnson, John Arne Riise, Vegaard Haggem, Jason McAteer (who sometimes played at rightback), Stig Inge Bjornebye and Steve Finnan marauding forward so provide crosses from wide positions so having wingers that stay wide isn't a necessity. This is in turn possible because of increasing importance of playing a defensive midfielder as an anchor to cover either fullback (or wingback) if we lose position and they are caught upfield.

QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Aug 29 2011, 10:22 PM)
guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders
Yes I believe it was about a month ago that this was posted. I've since watched the trailer about 10 times. Another movie Liverpool fans should watch if you haven't already is the 51st State starring Robert Carlyle and Samuel L. Jackson.

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 02:53 AM)
Liverpool vs Manchester United

Hi, I'm not here to troll

but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan

-peace-

you may choose not to reply if you don't feel like it. thank you
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To be honest I don't think there is much between our players on paper. I've always maintained that the reason you lot are so successful is because of the way you play as a team, not as individuals. There's a reason you don't see fringe players make the headlines after leaving the club e.g. Nicky Butt and Alan Smith. I'll be direct and say that I don't think you have the best players, but I think you have the best team.

With regards to the article, I definitely think that Reina is better than De Gea at the moment. I think the latter has had a shaky start to the season and I think the fact you scored 8 against Arsenal masked another mistake he made when he allowed Walcott's shot to go through his legs. He will improve in time but currently, Reina is the more assured keeper at the back and he is a rare breed indeed. The term sweeper-keeper comes to mind. Also, Reina excels in starting attacks from the back with the quick and accurate distribution.

Won't go into each player but I think the following players standout in their respective positions based on recent form of course.

Reina, Gerrard, Suarez, Agger, Lucas for Liverpool. Evans, Evra, Clevery, Welbeck and Rooney for Man Utd.

There are some players who play in similar positions but are different e.g. Agger and Vidic.

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imo, taking benny back will be stupid.
and i believe KD is not stupid.
benny obviously left cos he wasnt getting any playtime, now he wants to leave chelsea for the same reason...
but hes definitely not going to get any playtime in lfc either...so like they say...bugger off.


Added on August 30, 2011, 4:42 pm
QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM)
definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand
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a one legged, blind midfielder is still better than carrick.


This post has been edited by Everdying: Aug 30 2011, 04:42 PM
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post Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM

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Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 07:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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we not talking about the performance for the last 10 years.we talking about this season alone.the article written about the possible result when this 2 teams meet each other this season and i also didnt agree with the article also

the article also not brought by our fans. it is from your own.we just discussing the article and i dont see any childish statement here
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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Another mentally retarded m***n ! . Can't even read between "article" and "comment" !

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.


Well how else are we supposed to rate him then??? Maybe we should ask Nostradamus how good De Gea will turn out to be in the future? If we're comparing players, we can only rate them in the present.

QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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The ratings are based on opinions and we were asked for ours you twat. If you don't want to hear the answers don't fooking ask the question especially when you cannot be objective. Makes me wonder who the childish prat is. I challenge you to a mature discussion on football then. You talk about maturity and yet the bold statement is juvenile. Djimi Traore has a Champions League title, so he's better than Rafael? Duh! Physical manifestation of dumbness.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2011, 07:31 PM)
Well how else are we supposed to rate him then??? Maybe we should ask Nostradamus how good De Gea will turn out to be in the future? If we're comparing players, we can only rate them in the present.
The ratings are based on opinions and we were asked for ours you twat. If you don't want to hear the answers don't fooking ask the question especially when you cannot be objective. Makes me wonder who the childish prat is. I challenge you to a mature discussion on football then. You talk about maturity and yet the bold statement is juvenile. Djimi Traore has a Champions League title, so he's better than Rafael? Duh! Physical manifestation of dumbness.
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Well said..
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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It was your club fans that posted the link here , check on ur previous pages and he was asking our opinions . I am agree with Duke that we cannot compare player with player but a team with a team. Why you never bother to check on previous pages and me and few forummers here did think the comparisons are biased .
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 07:34 PM)
It was your club fans that posted the link here , check on ur previous pages and he was asking our opinions . I am agree with Duke that we cannot compare player with player but a team with a team. Why you never bother to check on previous pages and me and few forummers here did think the comparisons are biased .
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His brains are smaller than the signature he has.
The problem with most of the people is that, they don't previous posts or comments and jump into conclusion , so called showing off sensitivity when his "champions" been "compared". Read ...read..read.. doh.gif !
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Aug 30 2011, 07:37 PM)
His brains are smaller than the signature he has.
The problem with most of the people is that, they don't previous posts or comments and jump into conclusion , so called showing off sensitivity when his "champions" been "compared". Read ...read..read.. doh.gif !
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well, maybe they get used to one liner per post.You can see how amazingly their thread jumping few pages in an hour time.

anyway ,wish all my muslim friends here Selamat Hari Raya AidilFitri biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 07:42 PM)
well, maybe they get used to one liner per post.You can see how amazingly their thread jumping few pages in an hour time.

anyway ,wish all my muslim friends here Selamat Hari Raya AidilFitri  biggrin.gif
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Exactly, i do see drastic jump over to new thread with some real pace. That doesn't make them a great article writer or could write constructive comments with facts and on top of all this "knows" football , what it is all about. Like Duke said, some of his friends who had a go at Liverpool fans when we won against them 2-0 and they netted 8 past Arsenal, what has it to do with us winning and they winning it "big". Win is a win , it doesn't matter what scoreline it takes. In my opinion , each team this season , takes an extra effort to strengthen the squad at various level and positions. It's just that , sometimes they could not turn the result favoring them. In football there must be a winner, a losing site , and possibly tough opponents could be tied up!

I'm with Duke Red to challenge that retarded moron to discuss about football with us and everyone, i'm sure in the end we will know whose being "Childish".

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