QUOTE(markblurberry @ Aug 29 2011, 06:48 PM)
Heard that traditional winger is a dying breed..even in the english game where these players will race for the byline to send in a razor sharp cross for the strikers to score with a header....in fact liverpool tried to groom some of these player but without much success...we have mark kennedy who impress initially but couldnt make the mark...then we sign jason mcateer...but turn out didnt have the pace..then mcmanaman, who operates more as an AM....logically a right winger should be easier to find, afterall its right leg.. but as it is nowadays, not much stand out wingers available..i guess u can find plenty with pace but crosses sucks...those who can cross but pace sucks....which is why kuyt is still relevant, as he has a bit of pace, good crosses and plus point is he can defend and track back....earlier rumour about liverpool targetting aaron lennon...well i think he is quick but poor in tracking back and also crosses not quality enough. Nuff said, am happy with our current arsenal on the flanks

It's probably because the game has evolved. Traditional wingers work well with traditional centre forwards. Big, strong and tall but these days, athleticism is the more sought after trait. Mark Kennedy struggled to hold down a regular spot but he did have big shoes to fill. Until today I don't think we've signed any winger as good as John Barnes. Says something that Kennedy couldn't even get a game ahead of Mark Walters.
Football formations have become more complex. Often the lineup you see on the telestrator is deceptive. Teams change shape and players switch positions very often in today's game. When attacking, teams can adopt a 4-3-3 but revert to a 4-5-1 while defending. There is actually very little point in having traditional wingers that hug the sidelines if you have a Suarez or Hernandez lead the line alone. They aren't going to win too many headers that's for sure. Downing started out playing wide but if you look at him now, he often drifts infield. Wingers also swap sides now so teams have an option to play narrow with wingers drifting infield to take shots on goal with their stronger foot. I'm actually fine with the idea of not having any traditional wide players, especially if you consider how adventurous fullbacks are these days. In recent years we've seen the likes of Glen Johnson, John Arne Riise, Vegaard Haggem, Jason McAteer (who sometimes played at rightback), Stig Inge Bjornebye and Steve Finnan marauding forward so provide crosses from wide positions so having wingers that stay wide isn't a necessity. This is in turn possible because of increasing importance of playing a defensive midfielder as an anchor to cover either fullback (or wingback) if we lose position and they are caught upfield.
QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Aug 29 2011, 10:22 PM)
guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders
Yes I believe it was about a month ago that this was posted. I've since watched the trailer about 10 times. Another movie Liverpool fans should watch if you haven't already is the 51st State starring Robert Carlyle and Samuel L. Jackson.
QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 02:53 AM)
Liverpool vs Manchester UnitedHi, I'm not here to troll
but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan
-peace-
you may choose not to reply if you don't feel like it. thank you
To be honest I don't think there is much between our players on paper. I've always maintained that the reason you lot are so successful is because of the way you play as a team, not as individuals. There's a reason you don't see fringe players make the headlines after leaving the club e.g. Nicky Butt and Alan Smith. I'll be direct and say that I don't think you have the best players, but I think you have the best team.
With regards to the article, I definitely think that Reina is better than De Gea at the moment. I think the latter has had a shaky start to the season and I think the fact you scored 8 against Arsenal masked another mistake he made when he allowed Walcott's shot to go through his legs. He will improve in time but currently, Reina is the more assured keeper at the back and he is a rare breed indeed. The term sweeper-keeper comes to mind. Also, Reina excels in starting attacks from the back with the quick and accurate distribution.
Won't go into each player but I think the following players standout in their respective positions based on recent form of course.
Reina, Gerrard, Suarez, Agger, Lucas for Liverpool. Evans, Evra, Clevery, Welbeck and Rooney for Man Utd.
There are some players who play in similar positions but are different e.g. Agger and Vidic.
This post has been edited by Duke Red: Aug 30 2011, 02:51 PM