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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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Nemesis1980
post Mar 14 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(lostintransition @ Mar 14 2013, 10:46 AM)
Sigh - the people who abuse the system is making it harder for genuine professionals who want to migrate.. sad.gif
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Any specific reason why you wanna migrate?
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post Mar 17 2013, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Mar 15 2013, 12:37 PM)
I am not an accountant.
Don't have much details. The only info I have is:
I have a colleague, his wife is here on dependant visa. She is an accountant and work in one of the big 4 in Msia. But up to date can't get the job as she doesn't have any Australian experience.
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Does anyone actually asking direct question to interviewer how to get australia experience if there don't even have a beginning to gain it from elsewhere or opportunities?!? rclxub.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 02:58 PM

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Believe it or not, i got bunch of friends who's actually leaving malaysia who got their PR status in canada and australia lately.
hmm...seems now many people is leaving...
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post Apr 5 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Sammyking @ Apr 3 2013, 05:31 PM)
Your bunch of friends how they got their PR status in canada and australia? Must've studied there right?
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The 1 who went canada i'm not quite sure. They had it 3 years ago, just that they have to be there to fulfill the visa requirement to stay 2 years in canada. So, they just went off recently.
I think canada is not that hard to get compare to australia. it's just that australia is nearer to malaysia so everyone heading there. Canada is just too far away and has to suffer the air flight for 20 hrs.
I just found out recently that all of my friend is applying to overseas silently. Hmm, i thought i'm alone but when i ask them, everyone is leaving!
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:56 PM

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canada far too cold, eventhough i'm not been there but just that heard my friend told me they are goin there for children education
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post Apr 16 2013, 03:37 PM

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Main applicants is compulsory to take IELTS, partner shall need to show your certificate or watsoever degree which the course is in English. If your partner has no certificate or degree, then he/she shall compulsory take IELTS general test (Reason?Make sure you can communicate well in english when you're staying there)
For nurse, it's compulsory to take academic. Check the required band coz at the end, you would required to have skill assessment by their authorised body.

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post Apr 24 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Apr 19 2013, 12:32 AM)
What is the cost?
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Exam fees is somewhere RM550. That's last year's fees. Maybe can confirm by calling them.
DIAC will based on the lowest band of 4 modules as standard, means they cannot based on average.
Ex.:
reading - 8
listening - 8
conversation - 6
writing - 8

Band result? It's band 6

It's pretty unfair for non-english speaking country but i guess they just want to make sure everyone living there could communicate english.

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post May 2 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ May 1 2013, 08:25 PM)
Yeah, the money is good. 6 digits a year, the climate is ok I guess being Brisbane, I spend most of my time at work so no chix.

I guess home is home, can't change that fact, I want to kick back and relax a bit. Get a simple job like tuition teacher, freelance engie or something like that. Something a bit cruisy but just wondering about how hard it is to get back into the work culture.

It's not such a bad thing either way, I can always come back here if I want to.
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No harm for you to come over and taste the 'hectic' working environment. i've been working for 10 years in malaysia and i'll be leaving soon in 2 mths for Oz. Just came back few days ago and it's a great environment and learning that i got so many benefits that i dun use to have.
Malaysia working lifestyle sucks! Unless you're working in multinational company with lots of employee goodies. However, this is minimal. If you just wanna experience then just go ahead. If not, just get the butt out of it.
I must say malaysia need magicians who can perform magic in their work which meeting the clients unrealistic request!
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post May 2 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ May 2 2013, 07:17 AM)
There are many OnG companies that is based in KL, I'm sure you'll be able to find something. Obviously you would know that being on the customer side or the vendor/service partner side is very different. If you are all for easier lifestyle then I guess joining Shell/Petronas/etc would be good for you.

On the working culture, I find that most of the Malaysian management team will shove down "do as you are told" to their employees. Surely there are instances like this in Australia but it's not a constant everyday conversation.

With MNC like Petronas and Shell, the work culture (flexi hours, good benefits) will be alright so I think you don't really need to get tuition job to enjoy life in KL.
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Well, i'm not trying to demotivate you guys on OnG companies especially Petronas. My dad worked in Petronas for 30 years. Yes, the benefit is good and i was insured with company medical care till i finish my uni. But nowadays is different from last time as mostly they require Bumi to enter (Sorry to Malays, i have no intention to highlight the racist remarks but this is the truth). For other races if you wish to enter, you must be good and real good in your academic and not just a bookworm. For Malays, it's far more easy to enter and simply can promoted to management level.
Previously under Hassan Merican management, he's damn good malay leader who treat everyone equal. That's why in his top management team got multiracial. He's emphasizing working performance instead of colour. It's pity that he left for Singapore.
Don't forget that other OnG company paycheck has to be equalise or below Petronas as there's one time, lots of malaysian were recruited by middle east OnG company with double or triple pay.

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post May 3 2013, 04:46 PM

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It ain't hard to get a job in Malaysia, it's just the matter of pay and working schedule. You'll get pressure and stress all the time not because of your working attitude or capabilities, but the unreasonable request from client or who ever your pay master is.
What you'll sacrifice is your quality time with your loved ones.
Maybe this is differ from anyone here but this is surely happens in malaysia. If you're single then fine, but if you're committed to family, then it's totally different story.

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post May 4 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(klein @ May 3 2013, 08:03 PM)
I am sorry to tell you that your assumption is wrong. Empire23 is a Malay. So based on what u've just said, he needs not worry if he were to apply for Petronas when he returns Malaysia. laugh.gif

Anyway, I have seen more and more young non-Malays in Petronas. I am one of their direct-hired non-bumi and non-scholar employees. If you're not the one working in it, don't talk like you know everything.
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Thanks for highlighting this and it's great to know something from you. But i must highlight one thing is that it is true that many non-bumi employee has been recruited but later you won't go that far to top management level. I was in MLNG.
Petronas is the highest pay in malaysia but not internationally. There's time Petronas 30% people employee being recruited to overseas.
Well, i wish Empire23 luck coz what you're saying is true he'll have better prospect. For you i wish you good luck as i telling ya is truth nothing but the truth. I'm here not to show i'm superior or what so if i offended someone then i'm sorry. PEACE!

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post Jun 1 2013, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 30 2013, 12:26 PM)
If you want a cruisy lifestyle, forget about working in SG.

Its competitive as hell now with many local Singaporeans and other foreign nationalities (esp Europeans, Americans and now even Latin Americans and the usual Asian immigrants i.e. Indian, Chinese, Philipino, Thais, Indonesians, etc) all vying for any position on offer.

Employers have a dearth of options with people willing to work more for less (as it is better than having no job at all in Europe where the unemployment is high) while economically, as a whole, SG is not doing that well or at least well enough to support the employment of all foreigners.

Inflation is climbing as a result of influx of foreigners looking for rental/homes/food, etc while wages are stagnant as employers continue to look for cheaper alternatives. Somebody is always at the side waiting to replace you.
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I think it turn up to be a turmoil now. SG controlling immigrants and benefit is not as good as years back.

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post Jun 4 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jun 3 2013, 05:43 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but last I heard Aussie is devaluating the AUD and trying to slash interest rates in order to remain competitive.
Meanwhile miners continue to retrench staff due to the high wages and cut cost to remain competitive and profitable.
Lots of Aussie are looking out and I see many of them migrating to Asia for better opportunities.
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You're right! Whatever is high must come down to normal. RBA annoucing interest is a strategy as mainly due to China reduction demand on iron ores.
Of course there's chain reaction to other industries. As you said, it's just the beginning on the retrenchment. Housing prices will continue to hike up with more foreign investors coming in on lower currency and interest rate. But what i saw a phenomena is that building industries still remain conservative. Based on current property market, the demand is extremely high than supply now, builders calling market now. Ozzie gov is controlling property value in order not to let the bubble burst. If not, will end up even worst than US.
Of course Australia will start the brain drain again like 5 years ago and heading Asia (Thailand & Indonesia). Ozzie gov will continue to bring in more highly skilled immigrants.

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post Jun 7 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 5 2013, 06:43 PM)
Before you think it is a good time, you have to consider the criteria to migrate over.

It is very tough to migrate over with the current immigration rules. I am preparing to score all 8s in IELTS to get sufficient points for PR :/
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Yeah, based on current rules is tough but not impossible. If look back 10years ago, IELTS is not even compulsory.
Now i guess they just want to control people from non english speaking countries. I guess the main impact is from north asian (China,Korean, Taiwan, Japan...etc.)
Indian should be no problem as they're talented in adopting english language.
Anyway, wish you all the best my friend! You will getting band 8.
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post Jun 7 2013, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 7 2013, 06:04 PM)
i am more concern with reading(bloody true,false and not given) and writing
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Beware on the listening part. No rewind of recorder. I kena on this losing few points from there with their bloody accent challenge!
I think you should be no problem. Get the 8
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post Jun 11 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 10 2013, 05:58 PM)
Thanks for the reply.  Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years?
I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia.  Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure.  Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over smile.gif
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Well, 2 years is the most ridiculous terms i could say. IELTS consist expiry date! It's something like u know how to swim, after 2 years, u seems completely forgot and get u to test whether u could remember to swim or not.
Working experience is vital especially if u're looking for jobs in Oz. If u have 5 years exp, they probably will 'tekan' u kaw kaw saying u got no local exp. But i think u could try top tier company whereby more international candidates working.
My fren got the job offer and recognise malaysia experience which they consider transferable
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:02 PM

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Well guys, current market is pretty quiet. I'm in the process of applying 30+ jobs from malaysia. 5 replied saying i hv to be there then only decide the interview. Will be heading there continuing job hunting.
My friend who's working there, his company is facing financial difficulties as hardly get any project so far. Seems everyone is hanging on their job from what they have now.
I think VISA/PR is not the hardest part. The question is how long can u survive there without a proper job. Odd job will help you paying bills but for how long?

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 13 2013, 04:41 PM)
Hi, do you currently have a VISA/PR?  Are you fresh grad or with working experience?  From your username, it seems you are of same age as I am smile.gif
Wish you the best of luck in job hunting!

Cheers!
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I got my PR recently this year. I've been working for 10years now in KL.
Yeah, pretty tough so far. Will be heading down under next month to meet with recruitment agency. hopefully to get attach to a company targeting 3 mths time. If not, eat grass...hehe

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post Jun 14 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 13 2013, 06:18 PM)
still haven't ciao??? I thought you left long time d ...

If I got my PR, I would leave within 1 month!!  sad.gif
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Yo bro!I got family to feed ler, need to arrange everything make sure they won't suffer when i'm going out for job hunting.
Believe it or not, i book my air ticket less than RM350...hehe

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jun 13 2013, 10:56 PM)
Good move.
Try to secure a job first before moving over.
That will solve alot of problems.
Don't do odd jobs. Coz if you do it for 1-2 years, its very difficult to explain to employers when you want to move back to your original job.
Esp if your job is in an everchanging environment
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1st month might need to meet agent as more as possible. Later if no news, then might walk in to meet HR.
If 2nd month really no news, then really need to do some odd jobs. If 3rd month still no job, might heading melbourne or sydney try luck.
Based on last trip, Perth has like 1000 new immigrants coming in each week as highlighted in local newspaper and this really shocked me.
I definitely will try to invest a property there as rental is good.

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