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Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 14 2013, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:47 AM) Securing a job without a permanent australian address and/or a phone number is harder compared to being on-site. Most employer won't even consider you and will just reply you with a blanket rejection template, unless your skill is in great demand and they can't find it locally. Moreover, you must also be aware the employers are also aware of various job scams. Odd jobs are good if you can leverage it to get a good reference and contacts for your job of interest. In terms of explaining to employers about your odd jobs, you could always elaborate that you have gained invaluable customer service skills in dealing with people esp. difficult customers . The interview process is basically to judge how quickly you can react to a problem presented to you, and future employers would be impressed if you could use whatever experience, and make it relevant to your field. Yeap, tried that too. I have new add and phone no. overthere. Well, it's very understood that there's various job scams flying around which i always received. Your opinion on odd jobs is good! Yeah, might not be the best choice but at least can make me sustain in looking for permanent jobs.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 14 2013, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 14 2013, 11:15 AM) So you're trying your luck in Perth first? I have a good (rich) friend who lives there with a freakishly huge house and drives a Honda City. I visited him last year, and I really liked the people and the culture there  well, I've been to Australia quite a number of times but Perth is the 1st time. So far, the city size is more or less like Kuching or Penang. The city got like 2million ppl. They're trying to expand and getting more ppl in. Well, getting new cars there is very very very cheap. For what you're paying a BMW here, you can get Porsche there. Toyota Estima is just a general cars whereby Malaysia is something lavish. Yeah, living lifestyle is quite layback. I know the way they work is in slow pace but efficient....hehe
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 14 2013, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 14 2013, 11:30 AM) that's so freaking cheap!! AirAsia?? New immigrants from where?? Highly skilled or no skilled? Yeah, it's freakingly cheap! i booked airasia + tax + meal + extra luggage all just RM350 one way. Even return ticket would cost less than RM400. Cheaper than travelling sabah or sarawak. DAMN! My advise is if your flying hours is less than 5 hrs, AA is not a problem. If you're travelling to NZ which takes 10 hrs. I suggest getting MAS or SG airline or QANTAS. Immigrants mainly are skilled. There's some minor refugees which is quite minimal. I'm quite surprise with this report, however, the states is taking 1/3 of Ozzie land and i think there's plenty of space and resources to share of...don't you think?
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 14 2013, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Jun 14 2013, 06:12 PM) From a jobseekers point of view, beware of a scam going around that advertises for a job that works from home at the moment with no prior experience whatsoever and they give you the job without the interview. The catch is that they will request for your bank details and you will serve as their money mule in respect of illegal money laundering activities. Beware I was aware of this before getting scammed. Yeah, many falls into victims on this. The moral is never ever give ur details or watsoever account no. to john doe
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 14 2013, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 14 2013, 06:01 PM) Nursing?? That's good lo ... in many countries, nursing is considered shortage skilled jobs... I've seen a number of malaysians migrated being in this profession. Where are you now?? In NZ or back in M'sia??? Why didn't I choose nursing ... Not surprising. Australia is huge!! Greenland is about 2.1million km2, Borneo is about 0.7mil km2, while Australia is 8.6mil km2. You can imagine how big is the land size!! Even the whole EU with 27 member states is only 4.3mil km2....!!! There's nothing to proud of my friend on having visa. I've being cursed saying that i'm not loving my country and leaving my family and friends behind.  . Pretty sad though and always encouraging anyone who i know who really interested could actually apply. At least we're not going there alone and has community there. There's a big huge challenge like securing a job and totally starting all over. If not for the sake of children, migration is not an option. I don't want end up working on odd jobs forever even though their pay is good.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 17 2013, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jun 16 2013, 08:37 PM) The thing to note here is that if you have the experience and the skillset which they are critically in need of, then i don't think they mind flying you down to Australia for an interview. Like what Nemesis is (i think he mentioned he has 10+ years experience but don't know which industry). I know of a few friends who also have companies in Australia flying them in for an interview - all expenses paid. But they are senior (15+ years of experience) in the Oil & Gas industry in Malaysia. I guess the ones you are referring to are either on the junior side where there are more demand for jobs than supply. Yeap, i do have 10 solid years in construction industry. So far, they replied me saying i must be there instead offshore. Like wat hihihehe said, risk is something we have to bear with. Of course i'll not taking odd jobs forever. My friends who's working in the construction industry also telling me the same thing. Yes, you can get your job secured before you land but that's like once in a fullmoon, it ain't to apply to anyone.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 19 2013, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jun 19 2013, 09:39 AM) Well, that definitely paints a negative perception about the job markets in OZ. Great info. This would at least reveal the actual situation there.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 21 2013, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(divine061 @ Jun 21 2013, 02:26 PM) The only advice I would say is, don't come to Australia for the $. Nobody should be talking about $ without knowing the personal circumstances. If your household income is AU$100k and you are sending 2 kids to private school which cost AU$30k each, how much do you have left after tax? Probably not enough to even pay your mortgage. If your household income is $150k, which is supposed to be the benchmark for being rich in Australia, considering limited investment for tax deduction and the need for after school child care, how much is there really left? Yeah, AU100k is pretty enough for small family attending public schools driving general cars and comfortable life. i guess 3rd world country is the best to get $$ but hardly in high tax country coz all pretty much established. Australia won't make you super rich but they won't make poor either. Everyone has the shares. The purpose migrating to Oz is very much on children's education up to Uni. Malaysia is a bolehland, if you wanna search for money or watsoever you name it, all can be done but use some dirty tactics (of course not all) which i'm really hate of.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 21 2013, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 21 2013, 02:08 PM) fyi, i earned rm10-15k in MY b4 coming to oz.. imo.. rm10-15k in MY is really nothing, as in the buying power is not high.. (which has been discussed many many times) it all depends on what you want.. For a single is a big thing. For family?nah...not even enough to pay housing and car loan nowadays including schools and insurance. Family of four like me will be bit tight on that.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 21 2013, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 21 2013, 04:15 PM) and ANZ bank(one of the big four) going to outsource 600 call center jobs to offshore. IT prospects in Australia not that good as before For me, earning that much of money before 30 years old is kinda enough for me. IS good enough in Malaysia but traveling to oversea is another thing. Btw, just received my IELTS score and feels humiliated by the score. I never expect to score that low as I very confident especially in Reading and Speaking. Would probably retake again but I kinda suspicious in the way they marking. Maybe I should tick 2 years of study in English in application form to make the marking level lower Which band?
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 21 2013, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 21 2013, 05:19 PM) erm..why private school ? public school should be good enough here.. in AU, which is why you guys migrated here.. if you are in OZ sending kids to private school..then imo, it wont be much difference in KL sending your kids to private school teaching AU syllabus.. dont forget the more you earn here, the higher tax you have to pay.. so no point earning the higher range of salary if you are single.. Visited their public school and did saw their facilities and services is superb. Government funding in education is a lot i guess. Even daycare have so many info which is resourceful regardless the childcare system and children's education. Its more like private school in KL...
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 23 2013, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 22 2013, 12:41 PM) yeah in Australia. visa expiring in 3 months so can't really go back Malaysia for now. Anyway, I will try again I suggest take a short trip back here and resit. I do heard different centre have different standard. I remember when i fill up the form there's this section asking you the reason getting IELTS results. I was wondering if you fill up as entering uni or watsoever reason, does this going to make any difference?
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 23 2013, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 23 2013, 02:05 PM) That's what I concerned. I ticked migration and also studies 5years in English Next time I will try something else with maybe 1 or 2 years of English studied but I don't think different test centre within the country makes any difference. I guess the papers will be transported to head centre for marking During those days i took IELTS, i did some research online on other countries scores. I realised that some people from India & Pakistan majority they score band 8 in each modules. This really surprise me....a lot! That's why i'm commenting maybe there is better chance of getting high score if you're coming back here.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 24 2013, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 23 2013, 10:24 PM) I believe listening and speaking sections are areas which you can practice and be able to score higher with better preparation. Writing to me should be the toughest, the time allotted itself is also just enough that you have no margin for massive rewrites or lengthy compositions. So just try to write simple and concise within the required word count, and most importantly do not make any gross tense or vocab mistakes. For speaking, if you retake the test in Malaysia, you could get a local examiner and they might be slightly lenient since they are more accustomed to Malaysian English. This is my opinion and I could be wrong. During my speaking test, i dont see any single local examiner. All of them are angmoh girl who do the test. As a tips given, keep on talking to the examiner until they ask you to stop. They don't test how much know, they're testing how good is your expression and language skills.
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 24 2013, 02:49 PM
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Anyone tried on filling up besides migration on applying IELTS?
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Nemesis1980
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Jun 24 2013, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 24 2013, 03:15 PM) My friend, once took IELTS in Melbourne got the desired score in speaking. The examiner asked him what band do you required and he just said 7. Result come out and he got 7.5 lol Speaking test in AUstralia kinda tricky because most of the examiners are over not young(more than 40 yo) and you have to speak accurately and slow so they will able to catch you. Asian tend to speak too fast, this is the feedback i get from angmoh.
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Nemesis1980
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Jul 1 2013, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Jul 1 2013, 09:28 AM) Ya just holiday, my research shown different response from different people.. some said we'll need to get international driving permit from JPJ (RM 150) as rental companies require driving licence in English..some said no need, right now Im actually counting on changing to the new driving licence that will be launched in mid July which will be bilingual.. For holiday or student, Malaysian license will do. For PR, Ozzie license is a must. Check http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/20389.aspMalaysia is not even qualify for international driving....hmm...bad driving habit huh?
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Nemesis1980
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Jul 1 2013, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(siowgirl @ Jul 1 2013, 10:58 AM)  do they allow you to write the question & ans down in point form? i can ramble for a minute but past 2mins, i forget the question & ultimately derail from the question. Ok, give u a tip. They'll give u a question, u'll have time to write down the point that u gonna speak. DO NOT SIT THERE DREAMING OR DOING NOTHING. Every second counts! When they request u to speak, just try to speak slow and steady. Do not speak too fast coz asian tend to speak very fast. This is a speaking test, not to test wat u know. So take ur time to express loud and clear. Speak as much as u can until they ask u to stop. This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Jul 1 2013, 03:00 PM
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Nemesis1980
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Jul 2 2013, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 1 2013, 06:37 PM) Whatever the case is with IELTS is my advice is to not take it here in Australia. You'll never goddamn pass lol. I seriously should just consider quitting mah job, sitting for CELTA and teaching IELTS classes either way. Also it would be wise to note that this year's EOI quota seems smaller, reflecting the trend whereby Labor tries to appease the unions as it is an election year. My advice would be to aim for a band 8 IELTS score if you want to be selected by the automated system as it has a higher weightage. People should also note the job cap quota. Meaning that although there are say 3000 spaces, for your particular job there might only be 1000 places depending on need. My advice is that if the pool is thinning, apply under another ASCO code. I do heard they'll fail you if you're taking onshore. I don't know wat's the reason (pretending don;t wanna know) I'm quite skeptic on Tony Abbot to take challenge against Kevin Rudd now. At 1st i tot he gonna have big chance to kick ass against Julia. But now seems the table is turn around now. I do hope Kevin Rudd would make way more diplomat relation with China in terms of investment and would increase the job opportunities there.
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Nemesis1980
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Jul 3 2013, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 2 2013, 07:40 PM) It's past 1 July. Fee increased means lesser offshore applicants. I can see many offshore especially from India and Pakistan are on hold because they have to get extra funds for wife and kids, $1.5k for secondary applicant is not much in Australia but in India can do a lot of things. Hopefully this can let immi to keep up all of the outstanding EOI invitations and don't have to wait any longer for new EOI application invitation I don't think this would stop immigrants from coming in. A small increase in money won't give any impact though. Unless the requirement lift higher then it's a different story.
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