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I think it cuts both ways. Having your own house but if looses job, will there be any other help tp upkeep the installments ? Thanks.
Yes? Unemployment loan protection insurance?Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.
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Dec 19 2014, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Dec 18 2014, 11:08 AM) They'll give you a quote depending on risk profile when you request it.QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 18 2014, 01:27 PM) Yes, similar. But expect to pay hundreds of $ in premiums per month. And I think it only covers up to 6 months. Only 145 for a property worth 800k-ish with the appropriate risk factor.Plus 6 months paid while one collects rent isn't that bad. If your living costs are low, you can actually accelerate your repayment. So lesson is, take out insurance. QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 18 2014, 01:30 PM) Yes, Centrelink is not stupid. U have to pass an "Assets test" as well. If u are renting and dont own a house, u can get rental assistance on top of dole. Only assets held directly under your name or which they can prove you have a direct and controlling interest in.Trust accounts? QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 18 2014, 01:42 PM) cant wait for recession and all prop goes bust. It wont go bust, most analysts expect that property prices will plateau for the next decade if it were to slow down. In that case investors will just look for rental gains. man, they should consider removing the negative gearing thingy. |
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Dec 19 2014, 06:08 PM
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Dec 19 2014, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 19 2014, 09:45 PM) I actually learned all of my risk management from work. Start with a typical OHS risk matrix, then work from there.Remember the basics being consequence, probability and controls. You won't go too wrong and you'll have a chart for nearly every possible issue. Simple eh? Not rocket science. |
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Dec 24 2014, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 25 2014, 11:42 PM) No good, then how all the new migrants going to find jobs leh?Anyways retail has been dying a long and slow death. |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 26 2014, 12:16 AM) Managed to spend a lofty 6 dollars today!QUOTE(azrb.com @ Dec 26 2014, 03:40 PM) Depends on what kind of construction you're into. If you're into the basics like commercial buildings and residential, like shit lorh.If you're into infrastructure, LNG and OnG construction, there are still tons of jobs. QUOTE(kawa_e @ Dec 26 2014, 03:49 PM) A fren of mine got to work there as a buyer (guessing is chinatown area).Convert salary to malaysia rm7k. x3 more than previous salary in malaysia. 2.5k AUD? Eat what? Air issit?Why would anyone even migrate for such rubbish pay? Better save money stay in KL. |
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QUOTE(pookiefoof @ Dec 27 2014, 12:36 PM) 2k will get you a 3 room house for rent in the outer suburbs.But if you're in the middle of Melbourne expect to pay about 250 a week for a room inclusive of power and gas. QUOTE(kawa_e @ Dec 27 2014, 04:44 PM) The logic implanted to his mind before migrating. But I would never thought the expenses there could be so high He certainly seems easy to please. Kudos to him.Thanks everyone for sharing. If I got 25k AUD a year I would have quit and flown home ages ago. |
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QUOTE(sonofthestage_x @ Dec 30 2014, 04:11 PM) Hello there, what are the prospects for graduate engineers with a year's experience in Malaysia to get a job in Aussie? I was thinking of applying the graduate skilled visa but don't really know what is the job market like in Aussie? Reading up online the job market doesn't look good as seen here: Link It really depends on what kind of field you're aiming for but I'll answer the questions.Should I just apply the visa (hopefully obtain the visa within 3 months) then apply for jobs. Cause I don't really know if the visa validity starts once you obtain the visa or once you step into Aussie? To summarize my questions as follows: 1. Job prospects for graduate engineers in Aussie? 2. Current job market for engineers in Aussie? 3. Visa validity from visa obtained or move to Aussie? 4. Is it possible to convert this temporary visa to PR? Need a change of scenery from Malaysia. Just want to move to a country that is much more efficient! Thanks for the help 1. If you aren't a local grad. Shit. If you're a local grad, slightly less shit. 2. Good. If you're the type they want. Not just normal engineers but specialized ones like SMP, Structural, Instrumentation, HVAC, Subsea, Controls, Telemetry and so on. 3. Depends on the visa but generally a graduate skilled visa starts upon arrival with an "Arrive by no later than" date 4. Yes, if you meet the requirements of a skill residency visa. If your new permanent visa invitation is not granted by the time your temp visa runs out, you'll have to leave. Efficiency? Wrong country mate. |
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QUOTE(sonofthestage_x @ Jan 1 2015, 04:00 PM) Thanks for the heads up @empire23. Well I'm at the "shit" position as mentioned local grad in Msia haha. Currently I'm working for an O&G MNC for about a year or so, I have had some experience in Subsea Manufacturing, Pipeline/Riser Structural, Project Management, etc. But all and all within a years worth experience. Australian companies tend not to hire people without residency. Also most of them do not consider most non-Australian experience. Thus with a non-Australian degree you're at a severe disadvantage. Plus a year's experience is very little at best. MY preferred option is to move to US but with all the restrictions and the long process, I'd thought Aussie was a not bad option. I had a friend who studied with me locally here in Msia and was able to secure this visa then get a job (however not engineering related). I feel that being too comfortable in a country that is not making things any better comes with frustration! Just want to move out and start a new life before committing my lives worth (car, house) here. I'd rather pay taxes in a more established country then what is going here. Malaysia will still remain a third world country for another century or so, its time to step up the ladder and climb up to a better place. "YOLO" In all honesty I'd move back to Malaysia if I were paid the same I was over here, to me it makes no real difference, I'm in it for the money, plain and simple. |
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QUOTE(sonofthestage_x @ Jan 1 2015, 05:21 PM) I'd rather return to Malaysia under an expatriate package for a short stint. Everyone is in for the money too bro! Not really. I've held an Australian passport for 3 years now.Truth to be told foreign passport holds better money / income. Working in your own country you're better off considered as cheap labour. We've got expert engineers doing FIFO out of Malaysia on commissioning getting paid more than me. But of course they're at the top of their game. I hope my Canada PR gets approved soon so I can get my feet wet over there. |
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jan 2 2015, 05:13 PM) Depends on what you define as "decent" work of course. QUOTE(Y-shapedTwig @ Jan 2 2015, 09:08 PM) I'm fortunate to receive two job offers in Australia straight after my graduation. Life in Sydney is pretty much like any other city in Australia.Job 1 Location: Melbourne (free accommodation) Salary: AUD 10k less than Job 2 Job 2 Location: Sydney Salary: AUD 10k more than Job 1 I'm still indecisive about which job to pick. I'm currently on a student visa and based in Melbourne. Fresh graduate with minimal experience, applying my TR. How's the life in Sydney? Living cost and etc? Thank you. QUOTE(hellflame @ Jan 2 2015, 09:40 PM) I got some information from my friend who has been there before (Sydney) , By registering Visa you get 3~5months to stay in Australia , But you are not be able to work at there . You can stealthily work right there , but not too obvious . Once you get cought you will be blacklisted hm . But i wonder is there another way to work at there? Without the sign of "Working Holiday" You can work with people that don't do checks, but immigration knows this so they purposely ask people who do multiple entries to have all the money needed for their holiday upon arrival. |
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QUOTE(hellflame @ Jan 3 2015, 12:42 PM) www.immi.gov.auRemember that there are quotas for each country though. QUOTE(Riddhy @ Jan 3 2015, 01:38 PM) CS meaning computer Science? can guide me please which uni? one of my cousins want to go AU to study CS and work after graduation if u can pm or let me know which unis are good for job placement it will be good Quick answer. None. Job placement is your responsibility. Most Australian companies also rather not hire people without PR visas. The Unis also know that as well and usually only work hard for domestic student job placements. QUOTE(ahwai @ Jan 5 2015, 11:23 AM) One just doesn't jump into a decent job magically without specific skills in demand. If you're a surgeon or driller, yes, you can get a decent job. If you're a low to mid-level accountant or engineer, no. It really depends on your marketable skills. |
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jan 5 2015, 03:22 PM) internet speed not so important You will not qualify for the migration program. Thus you can't even migrate, let alone get a job. but availability of jobs i'm an unskilled worker mainly office job kind of person QUOTE(Riddhy @ Jan 5 2015, 03:23 PM) How about Acca? I heard australia has demands for accountants so if a graduate with completed 9 acca units has options to work there? Glut. Most of my accounting grad friends have gone back to Malaysia after trying for 1 year plus to find work. QUOTE(rawrkun @ Jan 5 2015, 10:36 PM) Very high due to the mining boom. |
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jan 6 2015, 11:52 AM) You definitely need qualifications (TAFE cert) to be cableman, painter, carpenter or a cook/chef.If you want to work at a carwash, well they usually pay below minimum wage and hours are irregular. My housemate used to work at one. He couldn't even pay me 800 dollars of rent sometimes. Like I said, regardless of whether jobs are easy to find you will not qualify for the migration program. Thus you cannot come over to work. Settle that issue first. |
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jan 6 2015, 02:27 PM) Whether your brother has a PR has little or no meaning these days in regards to the migration program.Butcher needs to be TAFE qualified or have completed an apprenticeship (which pays like 5 dollars an hour for 3 years). Pizza delivery usually pays 15 an hour (with your own car), well cashiers.....well, they're a dying breed, we have automated cashiers these days. Taxi driver? Well, I used to be one. Indians totally took over. Look, if you don't have skills, you'll eke out a meagre existence where you merely survive. Like anywhere else in the world. To give you a good idea, the average small townhouse costs about 400000. With that you need about 2000 dollars a month to service that loan. Now to get a loan of 2000 dollars a month you need to be earning a net income of about 4000 bucks, say you're in the 20 percent tax bracket, that means you need to earn 5k AUD a month / 60k a year to get a home. All the jobs you mentioned don't come anywhere close to that, you're looking at 25 to 35k a year for those jobs. Were you seriously thinking that low skilled workers here could afford houses or something? |
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 16 2015, 05:44 PM) Hi guys, been a while away back to KL for 2weeks Christmas break. Going thru humid and rainy season and heavy traffic!!! My Malaysian friends earn 3k can get gym membership, eat out everyday, buy ipong, keluar erry week. If liddat I think they kens survive fine. Not even I have that level of luxury haha. KL is very expensive now compared i left years ago and even earning AUD, still realising money draining quicker than i thought. Bought diapers and formula milk already RM135+carpark+miscellaneous = RM150 gone in 1 hour. Had bakuteh in cheras cost me $15/head on a roadside stall... Slaugthered by Auntie having Cha Fan for 2 vege + 1 meat + rice = RM9! Ganasai. I know it doesn't cost much coz i earn AUD but dollar to dollar is just insane! Just hardly imagine how Malaysian survive these days The only one who makes muka tahi when ppl ajak go setarbucks bek in KL is me, because there ain't no farkin way I'm paying 10 linggits for kopi peng. |
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Jan 18 2015, 12:55 PM) hahah. setarbucks where got 10 linggit kopi wan? min price including tax also 12.++ linggit already. wadefak? Onsite when our can drinks naik harge to 1.50 dollars I beh song edi. What more nearly 5 AUD for kopi?I just don't get kids these days with the classy eating attitude. If no marney don't eat mahal lah babi, then komplen no marney. |
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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Jan 19 2015, 09:13 AM) People not living at home and not sponsored by parents, see how hard to make a living on an average wage in Malaysia la. See whether can still afford gym membership, buffet and rm15 coffees after maintaining a car, paying petrol, toll, paying rent. See how far 3K gets you Well some live on their own lah and rent 1 room. Ok wat, cheap mah. QUOTE(selvenz @ Jan 19 2015, 09:22 AM) lol funny you mentioned that in my work place the new employees fresh out of college, earning about 2.8k , starbucks first two weeks of the month, eat out during lunch then 3rd and 4th week nescafe 2 in 1 (company pantry) and cup noodle for lunch. I erryday cupnoodles for lunch QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 19 2015, 10:54 AM) it's likely this is their 1st job, having monthly income seems like a godsend to them, until they realize the earning is not enough to cover the society activities, soon they will change Hopefully I treat my kids like how my mother brought me up. Want fancy stuff? Get a job lorh.2ndly maybe they stay with parent, so no concern with housing loan, at most only need to manage car loan wait till u have ur own kids then u complaint |
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