Anyone here going up to Barrow Island on werk?

Tons. E&I, SMP, NDT, Scheduling, Contracts and so on with the KJV and CKJV. But roster like shit lah, 4:1.

If you're an EnE you should know these lol. Here's a terminology of regularly used terms in Australian engineering we use to weed out people who have experience in industry;

E&I = Electrical and Instrumentation
KORDIA = Microwave Backbone
HA = Hazardous Areas
EEHA = Electrical Equipment for Hazardous Areas
SMP = Structural, Mechanical and Piping
NTD = Non Destructive Testing
OSBL = Outside Boundary Layer
NACAP = Pig launcher electronics line
SCMM = Single Core Multi Mode

Generally if it has a JV behind it means Joint Venture.

Yup.

Probably the worst possible time to move over lol.

Laing O'Rourke just made half of their civils redundant and so has Leighton and UGL.

Worley Parsons, ParsonsBrickenhoff and Monodelphous have laid off the civils and structural divs as they move into sustainment phase. Even E&I + SMP is not expected to last more than a year here in Queensland. That's why I'm moving on to capital sustainment or alternative energy projects.

I think the issue is that you'll be competing with a lot of other well qualified Dirt Doctors with Australian experience.

It's so shit that I've already submitted forms for Talentcorp's REP to balik Malaysia and filled out transfer requests for Origin's sustainment projects in Sydney. I dot not expect projects to last past October.

My boss has already put us all on marching orders from the APLNG in September, some might pull the pin later. It seems SANTOS is already doing so.

Want my advice? Don't move to Australia at least until shit recovers. If they're offering grad engineers 3 to 6 month contracts, you know the economy is poo.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/p...0-1227208293055

This post has been edited by empire23: Feb 7 2015, 08:49 AM

Try finance, it seems good and they're always open to hiring engineers.

I see a lot of engineers from Malaysia want to start again as techs.

But the reality is that technicians here must have a trade which stems from an apprenticeship for most work.

If you dare pick up a tool on site as an engineer and not a qualified tradesman, expect to get fired on the spot.

Inpex is looking good with at least 2 solid years of work on Ichtys, I'm trying to get in as E&I, but as the other projects are ending they have a lot of people to choose from.

If you can get an Inpex deal with more than 1k AUD a day, take it. The lifestyle in Darwin isn't too bad compared to APLNG's Roma.

Take the 2 years then lompat katak to operations on a 2/2 roster. Balik KL chill, company pays air fare.

This post has been edited by empire23: Feb 8 2015, 04:22 AM

If he's at Santos he's on the GLNG, lol I left that project 2 years ago.

I earn near to that, but I gave up everything else

I just got an offer from Bechtel to go back to Malaysia for a 9-5 job in Lumut for /k/ standard monthly salary inclusive of 250 ringgit a day living away from home allowance.

I think I'll take it. Interview in KL on Wednesday. It is a downgrade, but I'm only 28, for a 28 year old to be doing that kind of money signing off tick and flick sheets for the Wheatstone project in Malaysia, it's pretty damn sweet.

Yes, the Wheatstone project's PAUs are being built in Lumut, much like how APLNG's PAUs were built by BJC in Thailand.

It's 12 month contract anyways, after that I go bek to QLD and FIFO into WA for project EPC.

Do you have an existing visa? What visa do you plan to apply for?

Because if you're a UK grad, your UK Degree might not meet EngAus requirements for engineer status, but you did say 4 years so you should be ok. So ensure that you are eligible for registration before anything else.

Usually an overseas degree from a Malaysian uni without large amounts of professional experience is viewed negatively. The engineering market is heavily depressed with a lot of jobless grads, for people like me that are already experienced, things are usually far easier but currently with major resource projects winding down, you'll find that you have to compete with 10 years post-grad qualified engineers with CPEng status in the job market.

Also HR departments everywhere generally require you hold a PR before they give you a shot at even making the short list. They usually ignore job applications from non-PR/citizens unless you're a top of the crop grad with specialized experience. Also your electrical technician experience doesn't really count here as employers know that only Cert III qualified persons with a license and apprenticeship can work as techs/sparkies.

As for NZ. If you thought the Aussie market was bad, wait till you look at NZ lol.

Even with infrastructure projects, how many EnEs does one project need anyways? Even being client side I manage the EnE for a 1 billion dollar plant with 1 other guy. So out of 1500 workers, you have 2 electrical engineers. The contractors will have 3 more maximum.

That's not a big market bro. Better off doing an instro trade.

Market is typically shit at the moment. Back in 2008, there was 9 to 10 times the demand for engineers compared to now. Now most positions typically have a good 200 applications each.

I'm in the OnG electrical + instrumentation field, specializing in project construction, completion and commissioning (C1 to C4) + EEHA. Generally a 1 trick pony.

Just booked my visa medicals. Goddamned BUPA is charging 580 dollars for a medical these days and that's a Class A ripoff.

Somehow feel these days that the economy is going into the shitter soon. I'm going to save up and sign on for a more permanent role while keeping my loans paid ahead so I can take long repayment holidays if required. I have a feeling that a lot worse is just hiding over the horizon.

Finishing up my Canada PR liao. Just need medicals.

Might do one more tour of duty up north in Darwin if INPEX needs more folks or move to Snowy in an attempt to convert my current home to an investment property. Either way, ready to bail!

1. The government doesn't really give a shit as long as it is accredited and recognized by the assessment body for the occupation your son will nominate (Read the SOL list to find out)

2. No, see answer number 1.

3. I'd say medicine to be honest but even with a medical degree and 2 years worth of housemanship you still need to score 8s on your IELTS in all bands. You're better off being an electrician/instrumentation techie or plumber.

4. Don't bother, immi.gov.au has all the answers and they won't sugar coat it.


I think they've recently mooted removing accountants, and that engineers might be next on the list.

Remember that trade qualifications are assessed by the TRA which will take into context work experience, certificates, skills and licenses. They aren't as rigid as a professional body.

Singaporean experience is not viewed any differently than Malaysian exp to be honest with you.

Who knows the SOL might not even exist soon due to the lagging economy these days.


Usually the AWPA announces the occupations they're assessing as "borderline" by asking for extra submissions from interest/professional groups before they finalize the list every year.

No. That doesn't work. Get a PR, fly here and live here. Most employers will laugh you out the door once they prescreen you via VEVO.

Naw, I'm always pretty upfront that I'm Malaysian.

Depends a lot on what industry, for oil and gas, most jobs are via friends.

Just got my offer for Barrow Island / Gorgon.

CKJV/Chevron to fly me out of Malaysia/Brisbane. So I'll be making the move back to KL. But I will have 2 stopover days per swing in Perth, so if gathering falls on those days, I can join.

You still working on Pluto LNG?

It's farkin shite now lol.

We've got 2 engineers on the APLNG who are driving for Uber now. Which is painful. We've cut our team from an original 50 man engineering team to 4. I'm one of them.

The job market is tough. Most of our Australian exports are based off 3 key areas, Iron ore, Oil and Gas and agricultural products. The first 2 do not view Malaysian experience highly and the last is outside the area of most people.

If you think the MYR to USD slide was bad, we used to be at 1.1 USD per AUD, now at 0.75. A near 30 percent slide.