General
Unit vision up ramps has been reduced by 1.

PROTOSS
Immortal
Attack range increased from 5 to 6.

Mothership
Acceleration increased from 0.3 to 1.375.
The Mothership’s Cloaking Field no longer cloaks all units instantaneously, but rather adds units to the cloak field over time (maximum of 25 per second). This should alleviate “Mothership Lag” issue when a Mothership comes online.

Stalker
Blink research time increased from 110 to 140.

Warp Prism
Shields increased from 40 to 100.

TERRAN
Barracks
Build time increased from 60 to 65.

Hellion
Infernal Pre-Igniter damage upgrade decreased from 10 to 5.

Raven
Seeker missile movement speed increased from 2.5 to 2.953.

ZERG
Infestor
Fungal Growth damage changed from 36 (+30% armored) to 30 (40 vs Armored).

Overseer
Morph cost decreased from 50/100 to 50/50.
Contaminate energy cost increased from 75 to 125.

Ultralisk
Build time decreased from 70 to 55.

Notable non-balance changes:
When a building is canceled or salvaged the minerals returned will be displayed at the building location for the owner, for enemy players a floating text will be displayed.
(I believe this works like single player when you pick up floating mineral patches. You will see a +50 in blue and the opponent will need to be in the vicinity to see this floating text)

Added three privacy settings to the Options menu under the Battle.net section.
Only allow friends to send me invites.
Only allow friends to send me chat messages.
Set status to Busy when playing a game. (They make it easy for MLG)

Repeated control group and selection commands will no longer count as unique actions for APM calculation purposes.

Issuing new orders to charging zealots will cause them to lose the charge buff.

Attack upgrades are now retained by units controlled by Neural Parasite.

SCVs can no longer repair themselves while inside a Bunker or Medivac.

Baneling's Attack Structure ability is now a toggle to Enable/Disable Attack Structure. The toggle will determine whether structures are valid targets for auto-attack. This change fixes an issue which caused Banelings to prioritize buildings over hostile units.

If a unit provides power, that power is temporarily transferred to a player using Neural Parasite.

Fixed an issue where Drone attacks could be more easily dodged than SCV or Probes.


Full patch notes: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662

The worst nightmare have begun with the rise of Immortal and Warp Prism. Pls be prepare for the nightmare of BW (which is Reaver drop) start to utilize commonly in sc2 with Immortal drop + warp in

Stalker
Blink research time increased from 110 to 140.

DAMN!

I hate hellion nerf... I really enjoy how those Slayers utilize hellion so well

Still no fix for 1/1/1 =\

Immortal: Attack range increased from 5 to 6. The problem ppl have with immortals are nt really the range but the chunky movement which makes it hard to concave... Tat haven been fixed but the range 6 help u poke and return to recharge shields...

Mothership: Still wont see it in play LOL.

Stalker: Blink research time increased from 110 to 140. THis is jz dumb... Just when PvP allow u to get blink and hold 4 gate with micro, this happen... The only reason i can see this is in PvT where 1 base blink can win u games vs terrans who 1 rax expand but isn't this the point? 1 base blink don't do well in PvZ anymore and the 2 base variant doesnt care bout such timing... More worried bout PvP...

Warp Prism: Shields increased from 40 to 100. extra 60hp? me happy but what to drop? in scbw, u drop reavers which demolishes mineral lines (ala BFH)... in sc2 dropping immortals dun kill workers, u are left with sniping supply depots/ pylon or queens... dropping zeal does ntg as workers outrun then, stalkers dun do enuff damage, sentry drops started to get popular so it is a good thing.. DT drop is decent, HT/ colo drops for sure... nice to see it buffed but still as David Kim/ Dustin Browder said for HOTS preview, protoss lack a suitable unit for such role...

Barracks: Build time increased from 60 to 65. Retarded nerf... i dun see the reason for this besides the 2 rax bunker in TvZ... while u are at it, can u plz unnerf reapers?

Hellion: Infernal Pre-Igniter damage upgrade decreased from 10 to 5. I can see how OP BFH can be when they are in the mienral lines, killings lings and killing other soft units... But i think this is a overnerf... i enjoyed TvT with BFHs... This is such a big nerf which is nt needed... if they wanan stick with it, then please reduce the upgrade cost by 50%...

Raven: Seeker missile movement speed increased from 2.5 to 2.953. Welcomed change

Infestor: Fungal Growth damage changed from 36 (+30% armored) to 30 (40 vs Armored). Slight nerf to this, probably due to it 1 shotting marines LOL...

Overseer: Morph cost decreased from 50/100 to 50/50. Contaminate energy cost increased from 75 to 125. Welcomed change, underused unit but to balance it they nerf contaminate which is superly underused... I rather they keep the cost to like 50/75 and keep contaminate as it is =(

Ultralisk: Build time decreased from 70 to 55. 200/200 remax with ultras? me like this!

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Added on August 25, 2011, 2:29 pmps: no bunker changes? i doubt this patch will go live (hint: there is a bunker related balance change every time there is a balance patch)

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 25 2011, 02:29 PM

another nerf for protoss units, stalkers blink research increased, they like to nerf protoss attacking units, while side units they upgrade.

immortals will rape ultras (with proper positioning)

i dont feel like the blink will have huge effect.

probably just extra 1 chrono boosts and u can't super rush blink stalker anymore

and god dammit Blizzard, have u forgotten about Carriers?

MAN PRISMS

Also, -1 vision attacker's disadvantage = death of 4gate especially with immortal +1 range.

This post has been edited by hahli9: Aug 25 2011, 06:32 PM

I like this

hoho i like the nerf with the barracks and hellions. well i think hellions should cost more. either 1 is good

for PvP, this matter a whole lot =(

yeah, i think the blink nerf is stupid, 3 gate blink after looonnnggg development (since IMYONGHWA) had finally been the only anti 4 gate strat protoss can safely execute now wif proper timings, then now suddenly a matured strat gets nerfed right away. david kim wants more 4 gate.

the fungal growth nerf is very big la -.- now infestor ling ZvP will be significantly weaker, last time the dmg of fungal for protoss armoured death ball is huge.....now......haiz...ok la, gta admit fungal is quite OP now, they deserve some nerf.

warp prisms buff is for more ht/zealot drop i guess...

tat's y i was mad at the blink nerf...

u got robo, stargate and templar as ur PvP options post 4 gate...
stargate demolishes robo, robo is even with templar (depend on micro) and templar jz wreck stargate play...
so the most stable build aka templar (blink) just got nerfed...
and that long time might allow ur opponent to get enuff colo vs robo build...

moar 4 gate, moar 4 gate, moar 4 gate

Blink research nerf is retarded. Why there is no carriers or HT buff?

As for the Barrack, does extra 5 seconds really make a different..at all?

And FG is basically untouchable, so how is this RISE of Protoss?

it makes me easier to 1 gate cheese a terran in 1v1 xelnaga map more easily, currently doing it with 100% success rate,lol

OMG immortal drop pickup with zealot~ oh man now it is even harder to def it~ =.=a

yes barrack nerf 5 sec good for me~ 2 rax bunker rush will slow 5sec BUT THIS WILL ENCOURAGE MORE BFH(despite nerf some dmg) and banshit DAMN

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Added on August 26, 2011, 8:20 amgood for zerk player~3 gate blinks all in is IMBA

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Aug 26 2011, 08:20 AM

infested protoss have spoken

protoss cant be infested coz they r protected by the khala

btw, I really looking forward to Immortal drop by Toss in the future. Saw San wanna execute once to snipe a Colossus but fail. With both immortal and warp prisms buff I think this play will come back in at least PvP


You are the example of the only infested(your real race now) protoss (your sig picture) holding a Marine C-14 Gauss Rifle (your sig race)

does that mean u r infested too?

I no play toss n zerg. play girl only

no play toss huh~

accident happens sometime

The unit vision on ramp -1 and bfh -5 damage will affect TvT severely.

U need more scans, even more bfh to inflict bigger damage.

And warp prism now can really use like medivac drop already.

The ultralisk buff also very good for late-game Zerg. A new bunch of ultralisk morphing out will change the end game result.

I am pretty sure we gonna see more patch up soon

good job blizzard . nerf on helion . they are op 3-4 helion can kill all your worker .

3-4 BFH can make u gg or 1 cloaked banshit make u gg imba terran

lol atleast got ppl agree terran is imba . ++1

hmmm i am nt sure bout warp prism since u wont make more than 1 usually...
still it is a good unit to bring wit ur army and as an elevator now...

i sitll prefer the medivac/ overlords doom drops

LOL, you are new to this forum aint you? he was and still the renounce Terran QQers of all time

he QQ everything man...
try seeing him rage bout imbalosus =p

but even if he QQ, he still spam the find match button and improve overtime...

sure or not ? hahah

BFH after nerf still 2 shots worker.

even i also not sure myself~ evofantasy sendiri syok mayb

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Aug 27 2011, 08:34 AM

Mass warp prism doom drops with in your base warp ins. I want to see that. xD

2 supply tat does ntg as opposed to healing medics/ food supply OLs

rise of protoss =.=

The fact is that protoss had been dominating for awhile that zergs and terran finally came out with solution to deal with them. Meaning now protoss no longer can build a ball and A-move but to find a way to deal with the new style of terran and zerg.

And the cycle goes again and again.

btw, 3 stalker rush > 4 gate

lold.

really support the helion nerf!

in the future should nerf sentry's FF time from 15 to 10..

FF saves protoss! u nerf that, protoss hopeless

This post has been edited by axn992: Aug 28 2011, 02:49 PM

nerf that, but reduce energy cost, and i am TOTALLY fine with it.

i would prefer the 10sec version of =p
there are moments i felt my FF are too long when i decimate the first half of his army and his 2nd half jz retreat which i cant chase cause my FF is still around LOL =(

fyi, 3 stalkers rush only works in close spawn if u wanna do damage, if not, it can only delay your opponent's 4gate, which is still useful, but ur warptech would be slightly slower as u waste 2 CB on both of the stalkers after the initial stalker

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Aug 28 2011, 04:57 PM

Carriers WILL NOT arrive

If anything, remove FF from Protoss and make the Protoss a REAL cost efficient units.

I think that warpgate and FF are the main reason why Protoss Tier 1 is a joke compare to others.

I mean, there is no way the Blizzard going to allow a Strong Protoss Tier 1 existed with Warpgate and FF.

hurray mama ship turbo booster

*New Update*

ZERG
Infestor
Fungal Growth damage changed from 36 (+30% armored) to 30 (40 vs Armored).
Infestor’s Neural Parasite can no longer target Massive units.

Good news for Protoss who loves to use Archon and Collosus?

This post has been edited by kding2: Sep 9 2011, 01:01 PM

good, now i can NP ur zealot

Ho ho ho..which means...Thors are viable again in TvZ....yay!!!!!! Mass Thors FTW!!!!

damn thats unfair

archons imba

Toss FTW against zerg

Should reduce the time of NP or increase heavily the energy required. So what will be the reason zerg research NP then?

Steal Zealot or Immortal.

whats wrong wif NP? it should be imba for god sake, if not who will research a tier 3 spell, we are talking about possibly the highest level of spell in zerg -.-

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Added on September 9, 2011, 7:38 pmmarine is imba, why blizzard dont nerf it, pdd is imba, why blizzard dont nerf it, conc shell is imba, why blizzard dont nerf it, banshee imba why blizzard dont nerf it.

insta storm too good to marine, nerf protoss. 4 gate too good to terran, nerf protoss. NP thor too good, nerf zerg.

only after 1 year, blizzard finally made the build time of barracks 65 seconds, same as gateway and spawning pool. all the while, its shorter and last time you can build it before supply depot.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Sep 9 2011, 07:39 PM

Don't you think it is funny that one small alien can mind-control the entire Mothership or Collosus with one tentacle?

I guess that Zerg going to has harder time to deal with Protoss now.

mostly because u can control a 6-8 food massive unit and tip the battle by 12-16 food with just a single spell?
currently infestors can handle any possible unit composition using the 3 ability it has...

at least blizzard didnt remove the spell (flux vanes and amulet LOL)

dont you think its funny an EMP hit on a bunch of sentry or HT will make the protoss lose the game, instantly? or 10 ghosts melting the entire ultralisk broodlord 200/200 army of zerg wif continuous snipes?

i hate how emp deal 100shield damage burst (which is more damage than storm/ fungals) + 100energy to the protoss army...
when ghost got buffed via gas, i kinda see this coming lol...
mech + ghost were said to the ultimate deathball in the game for a long time and only recently ppl started realizing it...


the 2 spellcaster (ghost and infestors) were not used till they were buff whereas the protoss's one got nerfed...

87% in playXP now think protoss is underpowered with such changes...

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for me the way to change NP is to reduce NP's mana cost (cost too much mana atm) but make the range shorter...

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Added on September 9, 2011, 8:01 pmidra vs MC last time...
roach + immortals are soooo good vs blink stalkers (remember this is what idra said in the interview after the game)

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 9 2011, 08:01 PM

i think its relevant if the mana cost of NP makes each infestor need to charge for a long time and can only use it once. like raven's HSM. its kinda a big ultimate skill.

lol not sure if MKP is trolling

@OrangeMilkis
Wooju Lee
RT: @MKPS2 Please Nerf Terran T_T

Still, there is no buff for protoss and nerf for 1/1/1 Terran in this patch. Neutral Parasite nerf is still not enough to save Protoss.

Need more surprise buff and nerf from the patch1.4.

hmm how is zerg gonna deal with thor tank viking now ?

f-10 n
(u left out ghost now)

NP ghost and cast nuke on em (rofl)

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Added on September 10, 2011, 11:53 amwait, if so, who will get to see the big red circle, who get to see the small red dot, and the warning........

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Sep 10 2011, 11:53 AM

epic mindfck eh?

Ghost is so OP vs. Protoss. EMP is AOE while Feedback is single-unit.

I think they should make Feedback outrange EMP to balance it out.

ghosts dont really own nuclear missils, those are government properties

f**k this shit, I'm going to go play Pokemon na0

Well i think ghost shouldn't have EMP at the first place, should remains it with raven.

u better do, oh wait, is that a flying raccoon in your avatar?

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Added on September 15, 2011, 1:29 pmyea, should just stick with the mechanical lockdown in broodwar

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Sep 15 2011, 01:29 PM

sasuke doing chidori la bang

it looks like a flying racoon.

mechanical lockdown imba

TvT: lockdown + turrets under u =p

I play Zerg since BW and kinda "ugh" when I play SC2 nowadays.. Sad a bit.. Think the only redeeming thing I can have now is that I can play HotS when it comes out like a billion times and tell myself Zerg is very strong..

if naruto is fox, then sasuke is raccoon, its funny when i found out that raccoons eat near the river becuz they dont have saliva to moist thier mouth to swallow food, f***ing sad

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Sep 15 2011, 09:28 PM

Sooooo OT... XD

I seriously considering changing race lor at this point.. ><

We thank those of you who participated in the 1.4 PTR and appreciate your feedback regarding changes to the Infestor unit. In response to that feedback, we have chosen a different course of action regarding adjustment of Neural Parasite. Rather than preventing this ability from targeting Massive Units, the range of Neural Parasite will instead be reduced from 9 to 7. We believe that this change will make choices regarding positioning and unit composition more important when using the Infestor.

This change will not be reflected on the PTR, but we wanted to ensure that you were aware of the new changes before the StarCraft II Patch 1.4 is live.

range 9 to 7 huh? I guess it is acceptable. However, I still think that Mothership should immune to NP.

http://sc2tips.blogspot.com/2011/09/latest...tor-nerfed.html

infestors can no longer cast NP to massive units in the near future, good lord i love this

now changed back can np massive but shorten range

Ehhh..your news is outdated. The Blizzard stated that they will revert the NP ability back, with shorter range of NP. Instead of Range 9, it is range 7.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3182509584#1

haha, better than nothing lo, colossi still can shot infestor, range 9 vs range 7 =)

Yeah, better than nothing. At least now Protoss can snipe Np more easier than before.

sry i just dont really like the nerf on terran and zerg, but honestly blink research nerf it's quite a big nerf,
the ultralisk buff will be a welcome buff, the rax building time just mean u have to deal with all in cheese or rushes better with slightly fewer unit


This post has been edited by Minerva3: Sep 17 2011, 09:45 AM

You got it backward, dude. Protoss didn't get any good buff. In fact, their Blink research time got nerfed for no reason. Mothership and Immortal buff hardly a good buff that can save protoss from being thrashed around.

ur argument is invalid~ return back our KA pls

lol so bm

Wait until you mastered the art of 1/1/1 before you come here bro.

I pity u, this is protoss heavy sc forum. So u need to watch out any words consist of "P, Toss, Protoss OP, T, Terran, OP Terran & 1/1/1"

most of my qq post can b ignore~ afterall im not master league nor GM~

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Sep 17 2011, 12:18 PM

What? I don't know that Lowyat Sc2 Forum is heavy Protoss forum. Since when?

sorry for mentioning "Protoss" there. haha

heavy protoss QQ-er forum.

the racial balance is still the same.

wat to do david kim is terran~

Lol...back to Mr Kim ehh..

Arent we all terrans = humans..

But i do agree 1/1/1 is way too OP for TVP...

I'm trying to stop 1/1/1 but problem is if I dont 1/1/1, usually i get rolled mid game by toss...its either Archon/HT zealots..or Colo deathball.. How le....