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mDinie
post Sep 19 2011, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Sep 19 2011, 02:06 PM)
Why even bother getting flat ap runes when Magic Penetration is better and scales well to midgame
I just ignite that b**** and if all else fails... i dunno
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it depends on the mage you're playing.

the basic rule of getting flat ad/ap or magic/armor pen is:
1) if damage ratio is high, get flat
2) if base damage is high, get penetration

if i'm not wrong, most mages are balance in their ratios/base damage. certain AD champs like Jax or Lee sin, its far better off to go flat AD runes than flat armor pen. from what i've seen, most high elo competitive players, they will go flat ap for that extra damage.


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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 16 2011, 11:55 PM)
it depended on what time you play on... lol.. got noobs? feeder? leaver? in your team?

try playing at 12pm-6pm, usually i get better mates since that time in NA is 12am-6am, most kids already slept  tongue.gif
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The problem is that they are good players. So when anything goes wrong it tends to snowball into a bad situation. Also, when playing with my old mates in NA they tend to always expect me to initiate/tank, so it's a little annoying when I use different types of champs because they're used to their team comp.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:45 PM

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hehe bought talon bundle :3
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anyway add me for game : Peanuts
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post Sep 19 2011, 09:31 PM

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Can anyone give me a brief list of underplayed champions(that are still useful, not like Evelynn doh.gif )? Wanna try to be good with one of them. Was feeling like buying Maokai as of now, no idea why but his Twisted Advance just attracts me as much as a sexy girl.

Edit: Anyone know the core item for Maokai? I digged around and trying to figure it out and some input will be appreciated.

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post Sep 19 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 19 2011, 09:31 PM)
Can anyone give me a brief list of  underplayed champions(that are still useful, not like Evelynn  doh.gif )? Wanna try to be good with one of them. Was feeling like buying Maokai as of now, no idea why but his Twisted Advance just attracts me as much as a sexy girl.

Edit: Anyone know the core item for Maokai? I digged around and trying to figure it out and some input will be appreciated.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:31 PM)
Can anyone give me a brief list of  underplayed champions(that are still useful, not like Evelynn  doh.gif )? Wanna try to be good with one of them. Was feeling like buying Maokai as of now, no idea why but his Twisted Advance just attracts me as much as a sexy girl.

Edit: Anyone know the core item for Maokai? I digged around and trying to figure it out and some input will be appreciated.
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Jungle - try warwick or nocturne
Tank - try rammus or galio
AD - ashe, mf, cait or trist
AP - try brand, morg, ryze...

Those are the easy champs as far as I can tell.
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(blackespresso @ Sep 19 2011, 01:44 PM)
Good runes for AP. Flat AP runes are worthless in late game and with CDR and mana/5 you can stay longer in lane early game.

For tank/off-tank runes, get dodge yellow rune instead of armor, dodge is by far most useful rune and combine that with ninja tabi and nimbleness, you will be dodging their attacks most of the time. Imagine how frustrated your enemy when you dodged that last hit that could kill you. Also, you can use dodge runes when you want to start building runes for jungler. For red rune, you will notice how most tanks' ability is magic-based, so you can also trade that for magic pen runes, e.g. rammus, malphite, galio etc.

Just my 2 cents.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mDinie @ Sep 19 2011, 01:50 PM)
3 flat ap quins resulting in 15 ap at level 1 gives you lane dominance because of that extra damage, yes, 15 ap does matters. how many times have you played when the enemy manage to run away with less than 10 hp. i'm pretty sure it happens to everyone. early lane dominance with 15 ap combine with ignite and outplaying your opponent, will easily benefit you first blood/first kill on the lane even before your jungler able to help you. around mid game, that 15 ap will gives extra after you get rabadon. having extra 15 ap early game is far superior than having extra 70 hp. but like i said, if you were like me, feeling unsafe going into lane with 4 bar of hp, go ahead and play with 70 hp first. if you're comfortable with it, try 15 ap.
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Ya, I pretty agree on you both on using dodge for offtank and AP quints for AP. The thing is, I don't have enough IP for dodge rune, 820IP yo it is darn exp.

The reason I intended to use flat HP rune is that some times I just play so badly or being outplayed, the extra hp helped.


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post Sep 20 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(blackespresso @ Sep 19 2011, 10:18 PM)
Jungle - try warwick or nocturne
Tank - try rammus or galio
AD - ashe, mf, cait or trist
AP - try brand, morg, ryze...

Those are the easy champs as far as I can tell.
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I want hard-as-F*** champs or underused champs...which is pretty much the opposite of what you suggested, as most of them are seen quite often.
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post Sep 20 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:02 AM)
I want hard-as-F*** champs or underused champs...which is pretty much the opposite of what you suggested, as most of them are seen quite often.
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AP Kogmaw, Jungling Olaf, One trick pony Poppy ( Hard to do right that contributes alot in team fights. eg : pushing squishy carry away from the fight and one on one with him provided that you can win )

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post Sep 20 2011, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 20 2011, 02:02 AM)
I want hard-as-F*** champs or underused champs...which is pretty much the opposite of what you suggested, as most of them are seen quite often.
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My bad. Hmm, Le Blanc is bad ass. Try her.

Or Lee Sin, but you would see him regularly.

Oh well, I always see all the champs when I play.
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:00 AM

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try soraka ?
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post Sep 20 2011, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 19 2011, 09:31 PM)
Can anyone give me a brief list of  underplayed champions(that are still useful, not like Evelynn  doh.gif )? Wanna try to be good with one of them. Was feeling like buying Maokai as of now, no idea why but his Twisted Advance just attracts me as much as a sexy girl.

Edit: Anyone know the core item for Maokai? I digged around and trying to figure it out and some input will be appreciated.
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Chu8 Maokai(a HoN player who main Maokai and reach rank 1 in NA):

runes:
magic pen reds
flat armor yellow
magic per level blue
1 hp quins
2 movement speed quins

masteries:
0/9/21(strenght and spirit)

build:
start with mana crystal and 2 hp pots.
rush Rod of ages
sorc boots if not a lot of cc, merc boots if otherwise
rabadon if owning, trifroce first if not and then rabadon
after that is pretty much depends on your choice whether you like to build more tanky or more burst.
rylai, banshee, void staff, throw in whatever.

This post has been edited by mDinie: Sep 20 2011, 02:24 AM
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post Sep 20 2011, 02:33 AM

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@blackespresso
Well, you might see 10 Caitlyn and perhaps 1 Karma. You do see all champions but the frequency is different.

@mDinie
I thought Chu8 Maokai's core is Trinity force and no RoA? At least from the guide of Mobafire.

@Bobohead
I learn jungling with Olaf. Sadly I don't use him that much now because he is indeed quite hard to use...maybe I should try again.

@Munak
Good list.
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post Sep 20 2011, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Sep 20 2011, 02:33 AM)
@blackespresso
Well, you might see 10 Caitlyn and perhaps 1 Karma. You do see all champions but the frequency is different.

@mDinie
I thought Chu8 Maokai's core is Trinity force and no RoA? At least from the guide of Mobafire.

@Bobohead
I learn jungling with Olaf. Sadly I don't use him that much now because he is indeed quite hard to use...maybe I should try again.

@Munak
Good list.
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If its the same guide as I saw last time, that dude made that guide according to his playstyle but based on Chu8 build. The one I listed is Chu8 build. I saw the list posted by Chu8 himself on NA forums long time ago.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:14 AM

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Has anyone tried the new Taric? I heard he's very nice to use now.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Sep 20 2011, 09:14 AM)
Has anyone tried the new Taric? I heard he's very nice to use now.
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I have been using him before a quite a big number of win with him, but they change his ulti, form healing into damaging which it doesnt help in team fight. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 20 2011, 09:50 AM)
I have been using him before a quite a big number of win with him, but they change his ulti, form healing into damaging which it doesnt help in team fight.  sad.gif
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Eh how come... the teamfight potential should be even more geng now rclxub.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:07 AM

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yeah taric is good i been using him this few days even got ppl say taric is over buffed ....once he use ulti extra 140 AP/AD for himself .... rclxms.gif and 70 AP/AD for allies
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Sep 20 2011, 10:59 AM)
Eh how come... the teamfight potential should be even more geng now rclxub.gif
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no more healing from Ulti, because it helps alot with team fight when you are healing your members.


Added on September 20, 2011, 1:20 pm
QUOTE(KHOdin @ Sep 20 2011, 11:07 AM)
yeah taric is good i been using him this few days even got ppl say taric is over buffed ....once he use ulti extra 140 AP/AD for himself ....  rclxms.gif  and 70 AP/AD for allies
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he is good, i got average of 65% win with taric for ranked matches.. biggrin.gif, he's stun is quite handy in team fight, 2 sec stun will be enough for a kill in 5v5 battle. biggrin.gif. dont even used the shield when start of the team fight because it will debuff all the +resistance, choose your time with it.


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post Sep 20 2011, 01:27 PM

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i tot the healing for the ulti(old) only for himself ? and other buff for allies(not heal) ... hmm.gif

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