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autobeng
post May 9 2012, 05:27 PM

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In the first page of this topic, I saw "Repurchase Charge: NIL" But how come I see in my monthly statement of my regular saving fund a 5.5 tax when i repurchase every month?
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post May 9 2012, 05:32 PM

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Repurchase is when you sell your units back to Public Mutual, where PM "repurchase" the units from you.


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post May 9 2012, 05:39 PM

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any website that i can view all mutual fund profile base on company ?
can view performance, portfolio, alpha, beta, unit price, risk and blabla ?
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QUOTE(autobeng @ May 9 2012, 05:27 PM)
In the first page of this topic, I saw "Repurchase Charge: NIL" But how come I see in my monthly statement of my regular saving fund a 5.5 tax when i repurchase every month?
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Beng, just to clarify:
a. when U BUY from Public Mutual, U get whacked for 5.5% service charges.
b. when U SELL back to Public Mutual, called Repurchase, there's 0% charges

Thus, U sure U are using the right terms for the right actions and not confusing one for the other?
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post May 9 2012, 09:46 PM

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Another term for repurchase is redemption of units; i.e. meaning sell off your units in holding.
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post May 9 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ May 9 2012, 03:09 PM)
Understood.  biggrin.gif

"Technically, the net asset value of the fund is unchanged after a distribution."
It's suppose to read the net asset value of the fund 'you are holding'; as I was writing from the viewpoint of an investor, not the company.

The total net asset would, of course, be less after a distribution, after taking into account the pay outs and management fee and tax.

The important point is that as an investor, if you're waiting to sell, you don't need to time the transaction to be after a distribution; as the NAV is reflected in the unit price at all times. Selling a day before or after the fund's year-end date is the same - barring market activity the following day.

Can anyone explained why there is distribution in Public Far-East Telco & Infrastructure Fund as it was in decline the past 12 months? Is it making money to declare a distribution and hence pay tax?

Or is it money held in reserve from its profitable period over 2-3 years; which then makes "the NAV is reflected in the unit price at all times" invalid.
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distribution decide by FM. i think most of the equity funds decline past 12 month and recover.

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...LY%3d&tabid=248


Added on May 9, 2012, 10:54 pm
QUOTE(dewVP @ May 9 2012, 03:38 PM)
What's the diff between PM and PB? To be clear,
I don't have any public bank account. Only maybank.

So what I need to do now?
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no issue if use maybank, only worry abt IB transfer fee.

both PM and PB sell UT. but manage by PM only.

get an agent to guide u or PM me.

http://grow-money77.blogspot.com/p/how-to-invest.html


Added on May 9, 2012, 10:56 pm
QUOTE(rkg38 @ May 9 2012, 04:47 PM)
any charges for SI from this 2 banks?
is it the same option available, 8 or 18 of the month?
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yes but not sure abt the date options.


Added on May 9, 2012, 11:01 pm
QUOTE(autobeng @ May 9 2012, 05:27 PM)
In the first page of this topic, I saw "Repurchase Charge: NIL" But how come I see in my monthly statement of my regular saving fund a 5.5 tax when i repurchase every month?
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when u sell ur units, who will buy it?

the company hv to buy back the units from u. so, its call repurchase. no charge apply for this in PM.

5.5% u paying is service charge when u buy units everymonth. service charge/sales charge applicable when u buy units every time unless any special offer for 0% SC.

This post has been edited by kparam77: May 9 2012, 11:01 PM
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PRSF -0.0088 @_@, PRSF dropped badly recently.. F
After distribution since 2months, is 0.6270, now 0.6103.

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 10:47 AM)
PRSF -0.0088 @_@, PRSF dropped badly recently.. F
After distribution since 2months, is 0.6270, now 0.6103.
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You should have top up a little bit yesterday since there is 1.5% drop on KLCI
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QUOTE(mois @ May 17 2012, 10:54 AM)
You should have top up a little bit yesterday since there is 1.5% drop on KLCI
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Since it dropped 0.0088 i maybe will topup today
*assume no more dropping.
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post May 17 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 11:12 AM)
Since it dropped 0.0088 i maybe will topup today
*assume no more dropping.
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today, market up-loh
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post May 17 2012, 11:25 AM

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luckily i switched my PSMALLCAP fund.
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ May 17 2012, 11:22 AM)
today, market up-loh
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Ya i heard before 2pm, the NAV is yesterday right? So i will top up today.
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 11:27 AM)
Ya i heard before 2pm, the NAV is yesterday right? So i will top up today.
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No. If you buy today, the NAV you bought will be shown tomorrow. Today NAV in PM is yesterday one.
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 11:27 AM)
Ya i heard before 2pm, the NAV is yesterday right? So i will top up today.
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if u top up today before 2.30pm. u r buying at today closing price, not yesterday.
if u top up after 2.30 pm, it will be tommorow closing price.

PRSF, is local market, so it will update daily. only those funds has foreign exporsure will update in the next business day.
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ May 17 2012, 11:53 AM)
if u top up today before 2.30pm. u r buying at today closing price, not yesterday.
if u top up after 2.30 pm, it will be tommorow closing price.


PRSF, is local market, so it will update daily. only those funds has foreign exporsure will update in the next business day.
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its not easy to understand this if have different point of view.

i faced this situation many times when discussing about this matter with my fellow friends.

we are arguing, but we actually agreeing on the fact. it just that the way we understand how it works. its funny.

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ May 17 2012, 11:53 AM)
if u top up today before 2.30pm. u r buying at today closing price, not yesterday.
if u top up after 2.30 pm, it will be tommorow closing price.

PRSF, is local market, so it will update daily. only those funds has foreign exporsure will update in the next business day.
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You mean if i buy today before 2:30, the price is 0.6103 http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application.../fundprice.aspx right?
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post May 17 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 12:55 PM)
You mean if i buy today before 2:30, the price is 0.6103 http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application.../fundprice.aspx right?
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no, that is yesterday closing price.

for today, u hv to wait for today's closing price.


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post May 17 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 17 2012, 12:55 PM)
You mean if i buy today before 2:30, the price is 0.6103 http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application.../fundprice.aspx right?
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When you buy before 2.30pm the price will be today's price, which will be announced on the next working day - normally around 11 am - 12pm.

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post May 17 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(lytros @ May 17 2012, 01:51 PM)
When you buy before 2.30pm the price will be today's price, which will be announced on the next working day - normally around 11 am - 12pm.
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PM's website updates NAV at around 8pm to 10pm
Heheh - i've been grabbing the NAV via my Excel for awhile now.

eg. today's PRSF or PIX end of day NAV will be on PM's website at 8pm to 10pm tonight
eg. The foreign focused funds will show yesterday's end of day NAV by 8pm to 10pm - like PFEPRF, PFES, PRSEC
Usually 8:30pm have already but sometimes gawd knows why, late 10pm only domestic focused funds are updated.

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: May 17 2012, 03:50 PM

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