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post Dec 10 2012, 09:32 PM

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My robos seems to scared of mealworms sweat.gif i need to crunch their head first. Anyone here feed their hammies with mealworms? is it good? coz this is my very very first time to feed them with mealworms. seems hard coz my sister and my mom scold me they scared my hamster will die sweat.gif .

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post Dec 11 2012, 09:04 AM

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babybb,

Demodex mites are very treatable, which
is why I think she should take her ham
back to the vet for a follow up visit.
Properly dosed medicine is going to be
the only way Hamtari can get rid of
these nasty mites.
No diet changes are going to help get
rid of the mites, but a good diet will
help with overall health.
Can you have Hamtari's owner find out
what medicine she is giving her
hamster? If it is an antibiotic like your
message says, then this will have no
affect on the mites. There are specific
anti-parasite drugs that can be specially
dosed for a hamster to get rid of mites,
and and antibiotic is not going to work.
The vet may have given an antibiotic to
prevent an infection in the skin, but it
will not kill the mites.
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post Dec 11 2012, 12:33 PM

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hi there, i just bought a pair of hamster,
both are syrian long hair..
any advice on it?
here's the pix of em'..
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post Dec 11 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(the_dead_identity @ Dec 11 2012, 12:33 PM)
hi there, i just bought a pair of hamster,
both are syrian long hair..
any advice on it?
here's the pix of em'..
user posted image
user posted image
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biggrin.gif what advice that you wanna know?
the_dead_identity
post Dec 11 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Dec 11 2012, 01:05 PM)
biggrin.gif what advice that you wanna know?
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can just give them mix seeds n sunflower seed?
its kinda hard 2 find good food for hamster in kuching..
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Dec 10 2012, 04:36 PM)
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Hey starrynight, thanks for the advice. But actually I've had babies in my house maaaany times haha. When I have babies, giving away for adoption is the very last thing in my mind as I would want the whole family with me (in separated cages or not). So the purpose of me breeding is to continue down the generation so that I would be able to have the offspring of my first child when the ancestors pass on. Of course, this would happen only once for the mom, and breeding within a time interval of a year or 2. But they do have a period before they become barren right?
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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Dec 11 2012, 05:11 PM)
Hey starrynight, thanks for the advice. But actually I've had babies in my house maaaany times haha. When I have babies, giving away for adoption is the very last thing in my mind as I would want the whole family with me (in separated cages or not). So the purpose of me breeding is to continue down the generation so that I would be able to have the offspring of my first child when the ancestors pass on. Of course, this would happen only once for the mom, and breeding within a time interval of a year or 2. But they do have a period before they become barren right?
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Sounds like the gene pool can be quite limited... and can be bad for mutation?
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post Dec 12 2012, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Dec 11 2012, 05:11 PM)
Hey starrynight, thanks for the advice. But actually I've had babies in my house maaaany times haha. When I have babies, giving away for adoption is the very last thing in my mind as I would want the whole family with me (in separated cages or not). So the purpose of me breeding is to continue down the generation so that I would be able to have the offspring of my first child when the ancestors pass on. Of course, this would happen only once for the mom, and breeding within a time interval of a year or 2. But they do have a period before they become barren right?
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Hi Jeremy,

When you said you have a gold girl .. does she look like this?

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post Dec 12 2012, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(jeremysoon93 @ Dec 11 2012, 05:11 PM)
Hey starrynight, thanks for the advice. But actually I've had babies in my house maaaany times haha. When I have babies, giving away for adoption is the very last thing in my mind as I would want the whole family with me (in separated cages or not). So the purpose of me breeding is to continue down the generation so that I would be able to have the offspring of my first child when the ancestors pass on. Of course, this would happen only once for the mom, and breeding within a time interval of a year or 2. But they do have a period before they become barren right?
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Hi Jeremy,

When you said you have a gold girl .. does she look like this?

user posted image


Added on December 12, 2012, 8:04 am
QUOTE(the_dead_identity @ Dec 11 2012, 01:31 PM)
can just give them mix seeds n sunflower seed?
its kinda hard 2 find good food for hamster in kuching..
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yes you can but hold back on the sunflower seed. give them about 5 only daily as they are fattening. what hamster food are you looking at?

2 syrian hamsters? are they in the same cage? if they are, they need to be separated asap. syrians are solitary creatures, if they're living together they can get territorial and harm each other. other dwarves still can live together but syrians don't even live together in the wild.

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post Dec 12 2012, 09:28 AM

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Thanks starrynight for helping me ask. I'm not sure bout the medicine as the vet doesnt really tell me the name & silly me i was too nervous & worried to hell bout my hammie condition that i totally forget to ask what is the drug is all about. I do hope it's not antibiotic. I just heard my vet explained that "the drug must be given the correct & right dosage to the hammie as the hammie are so small. This drug been used for cat, dog & horse as well but normally we just do injection on them but NOT on hamster cause they are too small. So dont worry i'll work out the dosage for you. The drug must be given to your hammie on full course k?"

That is basically what he told me i still remember it very clearly as i remember that time i was so concentrate listening to him. Thanks to your friends as well starrynight i might will bring my hammie back for a follow up visit.

1 more question guys. I recently brought 2 Living World water bottle for my hammie (the plastic type with a "DRIP PROOF" Tag) but then still leak a lil bit. Is it i have to fill in more water? i just fill in half of the bottle only.
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post Dec 12 2012, 11:18 AM

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This is my girl biggrin.gif

But I did come across an article in the beginning of this thread, I think in order to get that colour, she's a mix right?
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post Dec 12 2012, 04:55 PM

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how 2 make new hamster adapt with the other hamster?
my hammies keep on fighting with each other quite frequent..@_@


btw, my new hammie, syrian white fur red eyes..



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post Dec 12 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(the_dead_identity @ Dec 12 2012, 04:55 PM)
how 2 make new hamster adapt with the other hamster?
my hammies keep on fighting with each other quite frequent..@_@
btw, my new hammie, syrian white fur red eyes..
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did you see my reply above?

2 syrian hamsters? are they in the same cage? if they are, they need to be separated asap. syrians are solitary creatures, if they're living together they can get territorial and harm each other. other dwarves still can live together but syrians don't even live together in the wild.

they don't need the other syrian .. no need to kesian them one ..

not to scare anyone but this was what i found out and witnessed myself ..

scenario : if a pair of hamsters fight and they are not separated, one day one might kill the other as they are fighting for space and territory. when one died, the other one would eat up the body. hamsters do that to get rid of their smell in the wild so that prey animals will not come to their space.

syrian hamsters are solitary creatures who must live separately. other dwarves still can live together in pairs but once blood is shed while "playing" or distressed squeaks are heard, best separate them into two cages to avoid unfortunate incident to happen.


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Thanks starrynight for helping me ask. I'm not sure bout the medicine as the vet doesnt really tell me the name & silly me i was too nervous & worried to hell bout my hammie condition that i totally forget to ask what is the drug is all about. I do hope it's not antibiotic. I just heard my vet explained that "the drug must be given the correct & right dosage to the hammie as the hammie are so small. This drug been used for cat, dog & horse as well but normally we just do injection on them but NOT on hamster cause they are too small. So dont worry i'll work out the dosage for you. The drug must be given to your hammie on full course k?"

That is basically what he told me i still remember it very clearly as i remember that time i was so concentrate listening to him. Thanks to your friends as well starrynight i might will bring my hammie back for a follow up visit.

1 more question guys. I recently brought 2 Living World water bottle for my hammie (the plastic type with a "DRIP PROOF" Tag) but then still leak a lil bit. Is it i have to fill in more water? i just fill in half of the bottle only.
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if can, ask the vet about the antibiotic name so i can help you further by asking the medical expert. she had experience with hamster skin issues so i would like to see if she can help hamtari biggrin.gif

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post Dec 12 2012, 05:24 PM

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[quote=starrynight,Dec 12 2012, 05:05 PM]
did you see my reply above?

2 syrian hamsters? are they in the same cage? if they are, they need to be separated asap. syrians are solitary creatures, if they're living together they can get territorial and harm each other. other dwarves still can live together but syrians don't even live together in the wild.

they don't need the other syrian .. no need to kesian them one ..

not to scare anyone but this was what i found out and witnessed myself ..

scenario : if a pair of hamsters fight and they are not separated, one day one might kill the other as they are fighting for space and territory. when one died, the other one would eat up the body. hamsters do that to get rid of their smell in the wild so that prey animals will not come to their space.

syrian hamsters are solitary creatures who must live separately. other dwarves still can live together in pairs but once blood is shed while "playing" or distressed squeaks are heard, best separate them into two cages to avoid unfortunate incident to happen.

Added on December 12, 2012, 5:09 pm

oh, i thought it was for the same gender..
even the same gender cant live together?
i was thinking of breed it..
btw, i've already seperated them..

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[quote=the_dead_identity,Dec 12 2012, 05:24 PM]
[quote=starrynight,Dec 12 2012, 05:05 PM]
did you see my reply above?

2 syrian hamsters? are they in the same cage? if they are, they need to be separated asap. syrians are solitary creatures, if they're living together they can get territorial and harm each other. other dwarves still can live together but syrians don't even live together in the wild.

they don't need the other syrian .. no need to kesian them one ..

not to scare anyone but this was what i found out and witnessed myself ..

scenario : if a pair of hamsters fight and they are not separated, one day one might kill the other as they are fighting for space and territory. when one died, the other one would eat up the body. hamsters do that to get rid of their smell in the wild so that prey animals will not come to their space.

syrian hamsters are solitary creatures who must live separately. other dwarves still can live together in pairs but once blood is shed while "playing" or distressed squeaks are heard, best separate them into two cages to avoid unfortunate incident to happen.

Added on December 12, 2012, 5:09 pm

oh, i thought it was for the same gender..
even the same gender cant live together?
i was thinking of breed it..
btw, i've already seperated them..
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I can't say anything about breeding as I'm actually against it. Sometimes hamsters might have genetic issues and without knowing it, you could pass it to their next generation. Some mutation I read of are like blindness, handicapped and I seen it myself also in pet store twice - a disease call stargazing.

More info here - > http://dashinghamsters.blogspot.com/2011/12/star-gazing.html

It's really heartbreaking as people think it's funny and think it's cute but it's actually quite pitiful to see them being like that.

And no, syrian same gender also cannot live together. By the age of 4 - 5 weeks, they should be separated to prevent breeding and fights.

I just got my hamster in June but spent 7 months until now to learn and read from research that overseas experts and experienced owners had documented every day. It shocked me to learn that I had done so many wrong things to my previous hamster years ago. Our market here are not exactly hamster friendly and not everything sold in the pet store is safe for the hamster. For example :- pine and cedar wood shavings can cause toxic and respiratory problem in long term.

Some people told me " my syrian can live together ma .. nothing also" but I would rather not argue with multiple researches and proof that others encountered. They are merely tolerating each other. Also, different species should not meet each other - like a syrian and dwarves cannot play together.


Added on December 13, 2012, 11:04 am[quote=jeremysoon93,Dec 12 2012, 11:18 AM]
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This is my girl biggrin.gif

But I did come across an article in the beginning of this thread, I think in order to get that colour, she's a mix right?
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Hi Jeremy,

I came back with info nod.gif

Yes, your hamster is a mix - known as pudding hamster

What is pudding hamster?

A pudding is another name for a hybrid hamster, which is a cross between a Winter White and a Russian Campbell's

Also about cross breeding .. this might be long though ..

The only species of hamsters that can "technically" breed is a "Winter-White" dwarf and a "Campbells" dwarf but they are [two separate species] and it ain't a good idea to breed them because breeding them will create "hybrid" pups, and "hybrid" pups will be subject to different health problems.

Both the Campbell and the Winter White are similar species but they are slightly different in their genetic makeup. They come from different areas of Russia, in the wild they would eat slightly different foods, and if they did meet in the wild they would ignore each other because they knew that mating to each other wouldn't really prove anything, as it would weaken the gene pool and weaken the stock.

Captive bred hamsters don't have that luxury, we choose the mates for them, we don't care if they carry or suffer with diabetes, kidney failure, glaucoma, cancer, missing limbs or ears, I could carry on, but here we have a breeder who totally disregards the rules of breeding hamsters and crosses the species.

So to go back to basics. The word 'hybrid' describes a crossbreed, a mixture of a Winter White and a Russian Campbell, which means that they will carry the characteristics of both parents. This is similar to a crossbreed dog rather than a mongrel, a crossbreed requires two different parents a mongrel requires the two crossbreeds mated again resulting in 4 or more different breeds. But and this is the big but, it can not be bred out, if you have a crossbreed or a mongrel you will not by selective breeding come back to a pure bred animal.

Mating a Winter White to a Russian Campbell can and probably will produce no end of problems, firstly any resulting off spring may be infertile, which is good to the extent that if they are the problem stops there, but this has to be proven, and there will always be the odd one which isn't.
The Winter White and Campbell are also constructed slightly differently, which in turn can cause problems in the production of litters, especially if it's the Winter White that is carrying, because of the slightly wider head of the Campbell the Winter Whites birth canal is not geared up for big headed babies, resulting in the possible loss of the litter and possibly the female too.

Secondly both species are flushing up various health problems, the biggest is diabetes in the Campbells and the Glaucoma in Winter Whites crossing these two species will inevitably cross these two illnesses.

Cross breeding is unethical and does nothing to help better either species of hamster.


Then others experience :-

Don't. Puddings are terribly prone to health problems. Unless you have a complete genetic background, you don't know for sure whether or not they're completely healthy.

I have never had a healthy pudding. I would not recommend breeding them.

I strongly discourage doing that, since Puddings are hybrids which means:
-lots of health problems
-you'll be adding to the amount of non-pure hamsters.
-the babies will be hybrids, so they will also have lots of health problems


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post Dec 13 2012, 08:24 PM

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Here are my robos

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Any suggestions and comments?
i wanna find some toys and house for them..
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post Dec 15 2012, 11:21 PM

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You can get the igloo house for them from Pets wonderland or the pet shop in one utama, ss15 and Empire shopping gallery for rm2.90. i dunno what else you can get for your robo cause my robo also only get very little stuff. nt much stuffs they can play though i gave them a flying saucer wheel. XD they like it.
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Dec 15 2012, 11:21 PM)
You can get the igloo house for them from Pets wonderland or the pet shop in one utama, ss15 and Empire shopping gallery for rm2.90. i dunno what else you can get for your robo cause my robo also only get very little stuff. nt much stuffs they can play though i gave them a flying saucer wheel. XD they like it.
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where did you get the saucer wheel?

anyway, like said above, you can get little hideouts and such from pet shops or if you are a crafty person, why not make them some toys?

items needed :- ice cream sticks (plain) and hot glue gun

you can make things like this :-

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but if they start biting these, it has to be removed
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QUOTE(starrynight @ Dec 17 2012, 08:29 AM)
where did you get the saucer wheel?

anyway, like said above, you can get little hideouts and such from pet shops or if you are a crafty person, why not make them some toys?

items needed :- ice cream sticks (plain) and hot glue gun

you can make things like this :-

user posted image

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but if they start biting these, it has to be removed
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I use lego instead :PPPP

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QUOTE(the_dead_identity @ Dec 12 2012, 05:24 PM)
oh, i thought it was for the same gender..
even the same gender cant live together?
i was thinking of breed it..
btw, i've already seperated them..
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If u are buying them in the same pet shop, chances are they are sibling and shouldn't be breed due to inbreeding
Actually nowadays i think all the hamster being sell are heavily inbred by irresponsible breeder who love bragging how many babies their hamster produced, bunch of shithead owner

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