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akina81
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Nov 8 2005, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(vclim @ Nov 8 2005, 12:43 AM) I have recently joined Alliance Unit Trust called MoneyPlus Fund. Anyone have any idea about it's potential? Fund vs KLCI Performance (1 year)  Fund vs KLCI Performance (2 years)
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Truth Practitioner
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Nov 8 2005, 01:23 AM
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Akina,
This is a very useful graph. Can you tell us where to find such graphs with other funds? It will be useful to compare these graph with graphs of other funds to know which funds are doing really well.
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This post has been edited by Truth Practitioner: Nov 8 2005, 01:26 AM
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vclim
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Nov 8 2005, 09:25 AM
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is there a comparison between funds? such as alliance vs PBB vs MBB and etc? thank you... very nice graph indeed...
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lklatmy
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Nov 8 2005, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 7 2005, 03:12 PM) Whut is the CAo case happened in singapore?do mind to tell wuts the story about it?  It is a case where the hedging programme gone wrong by China Aviation Oil in Singapore.Check this http://english.people.com.cn/200412/10/eng...210_166900.htmlGoogle for "China Aviation Oil"for more
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Silveru
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Nov 8 2005, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 7 2005, 08:36 PM) Silveru, i think i need to ask you this CIMB is offering CIMB-principal fund... lots of list under it.. UT stuff i think.. how do you see either it is worth it or not?  Woah!!! Seriously, I have no idea  Sorry... I can help out if you need infos on shares and futures. But on funds, I do not have access to it. They have several choices under its principal fund. But I can try to help you to check on the Bloomberg tomorrow. I do know someone from CIMB but not in UT... I'll ask and see if he has any idea or not. Not tried it before on funds though. You're considering because of the 50% discount??? Any ideas guys??? Anyways, there's a financial expo in Mid Valley's Convention Center this 12th and 13th (coming Sat and Sun). I'll be based there on Sunday  Urmmm think they have all kinds of financial products offered there. That includes insurance, UT, equities and futures. This post has been edited by Silveru: Nov 8 2005, 10:55 PM
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akina81
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Nov 8 2005, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Truth Practitioner @ Nov 8 2005, 01:23 AM) Can you tell us where to find such graphs with other funds? unit trust consultant information system. QUOTE(vclim @ Nov 8 2005, 09:25 AM) is there a comparison between funds? such as alliance vs PBB vs MBB and etc? the system can't display multiple funds compare with KLCI index (in line chart). This post has been edited by akina81: Mar 7 2006, 04:55 PM
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dEviLs
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Nov 9 2005, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Silveru @ Nov 8 2005, 10:48 PM) Woah!!! Seriously, I have no idea  Sorry... I can help out if you need infos on shares and futures. But on funds, I do not have access to it. They have several choices under its principal fund. But I can try to help you to check on the Bloomberg tomorrow. I do know someone from CIMB but not in UT... I'll ask and see if he has any idea or not. Not tried it before on funds though. You're considering because of the 50% discount??? Any ideas guys??? Anyways, there's a financial expo in Mid Valley's Convention Center this 12th and 13th (coming Sat and Sun). I'll be based there on Sunday  Urmmm think they have all kinds of financial products offered there. That includes insurance, UT, equities and futures. Hi, can you provide more information on the said financial expo ? thanks
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Silveru
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Nov 9 2005, 12:50 PM
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dEviLs, the Financial Expo's title is "Money & You." I've not been to one but according to my collegue, you will be expecting banks, brokers and insurance companys. Basically whoever stations there will be selling their products. So it'll be a one stop center to learn on how to manage your money!
Exibition is held in the Mid Valley's Convention Center this 12th and 13th (coming Sat and Sun) from 10am to 8.30pm. I think the expo will end earlier on Sunday. The Convention Center should be near to the World of Feng Shui located at the Cinema level.
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dEviLs
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Nov 9 2005, 02:26 PM
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Thanks Silveru I just got this email too : QUOTE Dear *** Customers,
**** will be participating in the Financial Expo (FINEX 2005) and cordially invites you to visit the Financial Expo (FINEX 2005) on 12th and 13th November 2005. The Expo will be held at Hall 3, Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Mid Valley Megamall, Kuala Lumpur. Our team will be stationed at booth number *.
The expo, themed 'Your Money and You', is organised to educate and enhance consumer's awareness on the various financial instruments that are available in the market. Consumers are able to visit more than 50 exhibition booths comprising the local and international financial service providers from the banking, insurance, mutual funds, financial planning, financial education and other financial related industries who will showcase their products and services at FINEX 2005.
Apart from visiting the booths, consumers are invited to participate in financial workshops and talks on different aspects of financial planning, personal wealth creation and investments. Please click here to view the workshop schedule planned during the expo.
Admission to FINEX 2005 is FREE! Come and participate in a treasure hunt event organised throughout the 2 day expo. Mystery gifts and lucky draw prizes are also up for grabs! http://www.fpam.org.my/finex05/
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Psyker
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Nov 11 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(Assassin @ Nov 7 2005, 09:28 AM) By looking at the current market, what is the recommended investment between bond and equity? What I know from my friend is that bond is depend on the bank interest rate. When the interest rate goes up then the bond price will drop and vice versa. He also mention that bond is a conservative investment that more stable than equity. For bond, the most important thing is yield to maturity... if interest rate goes up (I don't think Malaysia will increase its interest rate just yet), bond price will go down but yield will go up. You want to know why our stock market performed badly lately... that is because foreign funds sold Malaysian equities to park their money in US bond because they believe the interest rate in US will reach its peak (consensus target is around 4.25%), hence yield is high i.e. cheap bonds.
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Psyker
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Nov 11 2005, 02:35 PM
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Hi, I just want to say something here to everyone... Make sure you know the mechanism and the cost associated with what you want to invest your hard earned money... Don't just look at the return (or historical return!), you also need to match it with your risk appetite. Everyone have different risk appetite... In my experience, I saw a lot of people lose their money because they have no idea about the product they invest in and just follow what other ppl told them to do... like buy this stock, it will go up! By the time you buy it, the person who told you to buy is selling it.
Just make sure you do a fair amount of research first before going to the expert so that you know what they're talking and more importantly which investment products are suitable for you.
Have a nice day....
Investment trivia - Do guys remember Pak Man Telo or ever heard of him... do you know that he is actually a briliant guy investing in foreign exchange market and really makes a huge amount of money. Yes, he was charge for not having a deposit license but never charged of cheating other people money whatsoever. The problems arise because some of his staff took the money for themselves and hence it is not in the record... he amasses a huge sum of money until his house is full of it (in your normal 'guni') and it was believed that some of his clients are ministers and politician.
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Nov 11 2005, 05:56 PM
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Data on funds' performance and loads of info on investment ...try The Edge, Business and investment Weekly
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mai-k
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Nov 15 2005, 12:04 AM
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What is the requirement to become a remisier or trading representative of KLSE ? Anyone knows the procedures ?
This post has been edited by mai-k: Nov 15 2005, 12:05 AM
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Geminist
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Nov 15 2005, 12:30 AM
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Topic merged, I believe you can get more response in this topic as there are quite a few experienced LYNers here This post has been edited by Geminist: Nov 15 2005, 01:18 AM
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lklatmy
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Nov 15 2005, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(mai-k @ Nov 15 2005, 12:04 AM) What is the requirement to become a remisier or trading representative of KLSE ? Anyone knows the procedures ? 1.You must first be accepted by a Securities firm as a trainee and prepare for the qualifying exam. 2.After passing the exam,you can apply to the Securities Commission for your license vide the Securities firm that you are attached to.Check this: http://www.sc.com.my/(Check topic "Licensing") I am surprise that at the current market condition,you are still interested to join this industry This post has been edited by lklatmy: Nov 15 2005, 09:33 AM
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Psyker
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Nov 15 2005, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Nov 15 2005, 09:30 AM) 1.You must first be accepted by a Securities firm as a trainee and prepare for the qualifying exam. 2.After passing the exam,you can apply to the Securities Commission for your license vide the Securities firm that you are attached to.Check this: http://www.sc.com.my/(Check topic "Licensing") I am surprise that at the current market condition,you are still interested to join this industry  By looking at the stock market, I say by the time you finished your SC exams, thing would have been much better. Be sure to check the stockbroking houses background first, some are very good at handling retail investors i.e. large customer database, some are concentrated more to the institutional investors i.e. small retail division. Choose wisely...
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lklatmy
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Nov 15 2005, 11:31 PM
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I was thinking of starting a new thread but on second thought,since there are many learned forumers here,I think there will be more response if I post my topic under this thread.
The topic is regarding the rights issue of Iculs by Berjaya Corporation Bhd that will be closed on 5th Dec2005.
By a series of scheme of arrangment,Berjaya Group(Bgrps) shareholders,warrant and Icul holders will be given new shares in Berjaya Corporation(Bcorp)follow by a rights issue of Iculs in Bcorp at par value of 50 sen.There will also be bonus units of .27 for each rights Iculs subscribed.
Bearing in mind the conversion ratio of 2 Iculs to 1 Bcorp share,zero coupon ,and past history of corporate governance.what do you think Bcorp share and Iculs will be worth upon listing in late Dec or early Jan.2006
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Psyker
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Nov 16 2005, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Nov 15 2005, 11:31 PM) I was thinking of starting a new thread but on second thought,since there are many learned forumers here,I think there will be more response if I post my topic under this thread. The topic is regarding the rights issue of Iculs by Berjaya Corporation Bhd that will be closed on 5th Dec2005. By a series of scheme of arrangment,Berjaya Group(Bgrps) shareholders,warrant and Icul holders will be given new shares in Berjaya Corporation(Bcorp)follow by a rights issue of Iculs in Bcorp at par value of 50 sen.There will also be bonus units of .27 for each rights Iculs subscribed. Bearing in mind the conversion ratio of 2 Iculs to 1 Bcorp share,zero coupon ,and past history of corporate governance.what do you think Bcorp share and Iculs will be worth upon listing in late Dec or early Jan.2006 My God, this is one heck of a restructuring... I don't cover non-syariah stocks but the fundamental should be the same, I'll see what I can come up with or try to find out from brokers...
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Psyker
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Nov 22 2005, 12:34 PM
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Sorry, can't really find any reports on the restructuring and effect to its price. Most brokers seems like not very keen on Berjaya Group... I also found that its quite difficult to price ICULS accurately due to a lot of input variables...
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Chronox
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Nov 23 2005, 01:09 PM
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Do you think KLSE has reached its bottom and heading for a bull run now?
I think it's heading upward very soon, but it won't be a bull run...
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