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 Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 Official Thread [V3], Now with Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread

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post Nov 1 2011, 01:27 PM

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Should I use T.E.A.M. ROM v3.5? Look nice thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 1 2011, 12:34 PM)
I just need a clarify about [ROOT] aZuZu Root Method for stock SE 2.3.3 GB - Step By Step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196421. Does the unlock the boatloader?


Added on November 1, 2011, 12:57 pmAppMan from TEAM ROM what is the function?
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think so...cause last week i got explore how to unlock bootloader..the steps are just the same...just that when upgrade kernel, use doomlord kernel...but i failed to try cause my phone stuck on detecting X10...T__T


TEAM ROM AppMan, i tot its application manager, the time after i flash TEAM ROM and the AppMan, nothing comes out. that's when i flash to CM7...more tweaking and can install apk easily... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(abundai @ Nov 1 2011, 01:03 PM)
guys...i think some of us are getting the terms wrong

RAM = Random Access Memory... the more app running, the higher RAM usage. but the good thing is, for GB rom, u dont have to worry at all. GB can handle RAM management quite well compared to older version. Dont use TaskKiller to free up more RAM space cos that is just wrong. Unlike the old days, where TaskKiller can be very useful to kill those poorly written apps that wont let go of RAM even it is not being used...
(click on Settings-Application-Running... u'll get RAM reading)

Phone Memory is different..its the internal storage where u install apps. more APPS u install, the more phone memory it will occupy... so dont be shock when u run out of phone memory... cos it was you who installed TOO much apps... but then, that is when app2sd comes in handy.....
(click on Settings-Application-All... u'll get phone memory/internal storage reading)
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yes, you are right, but what you miss there is in GB rom, it automatically decides which apps has the highest priority and exit any other foreground apps which is consuming the RAM, but the thing is that why nowdays smartphone are preloaded with 512MB RAM of 1GB RAM is because it increases not only your multitasking capability but also the smoothness and speed of your phone, your widget eats RAM, your android core process eats RAM, eventually a lots of things eat RAM, you should be able to organize your memory wisely even if you are using GB, lots of RAM allocated to background and foreground apps means your phone will not be smooth even with FPS uncap, they said in android, the less RAM u have means better because apps are loaded into foreground, and when u want to open it right after you close it, maybe you forgot something or etc, then it will load up faster , that is true, but not entirely good, having more RAM means you will do less app swapping and conflict with the new app you are opening
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post Nov 1 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 1 2011, 06:14 PM)
yes, you are right, but what you miss there is in GB rom, it automatically decides which apps has the highest priority and exit any other foreground apps which is consuming the RAM, but the thing is that why nowdays smartphone are preloaded with 512MB RAM of 1GB RAM is because it increases not only your multitasking capability but also the smoothness and speed of your phone, your widget eats RAM, your android core process eats RAM, eventually a lots of things eat RAM, you should be able to organize your memory wisely even if you are using GB, lots of RAM allocated to background and foreground apps means your phone will not be smooth even with FPS uncap, they said in android, the less RAM u have means better because apps are loaded into foreground, and when u want to open it right after you close it, maybe you forgot something or etc, then it will load up faster , that is true, but not entirely good, having more RAM means you will do less app swapping and conflict with the new app you are opening
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But notice that nt all da apps will run at background. I totally agreed wf abundai.
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post Nov 2 2011, 12:18 AM

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lol! the point is not about every single app run in background or not, the point is that is how it works, number of apps affects your phone performances
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post Nov 2 2011, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 1 2011, 01:27 PM)
Should I use T.E.A.M. ROM v3.5? Look nice thumbup.gif
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I'm using for quite sometime, quite good very stable.. Appman is actually for the devs to release updates and we can use appman to download and install the updates.
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post Nov 2 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:14 PM)
yes, you are right, but what you miss there is in GB rom, it automatically decides which apps has the highest priority and exit any other foreground apps which is consuming the RAM,
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thats wat i meant when i say GB rom can handle memory management quite well compare to older version smile.gif

QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:14 PM)
but the thing is that why nowdays smartphone are preloaded with 512MB RAM of 1GB RAM is because it increases not only your multitasking capability but also the smoothness and speed of your phone,
exactly..reason why they give more RAM because they want to put as much stuff in it so Andoid will do less work loading the apps from storage... so the idea of flushing out the apps from RAM is totally the opposite of why they need higher RAM in the first place, wouldnt you agree? for X10, it only have 300+ of RAM...but that wont stop the show.. its just that, Android will have to do more memory swapping from RAM compared to those new phone that has higher RAM... once we know the capability of the phone, we wouldnt complain much if the HD games that we install requires bigger memory dat keeps on lagging.. cos its not designed to support it.. its not X10 fault...which is why some rom cookers trim down the ROM to the basic stuff, so that it can provide more RAM space for the games to run like WB gaming rom

QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:14 PM)
your widget eats RAM, your android core process eats RAM, eventually a lots of things eat RAM, you should be able to organize your memory wisely even if you are using GB,
organise our memory? for 2.2 or below, partly true.. i cant disagree... but for 2.3 n above, why worry? GB should be doing that work for you.. its his job smile.gif

QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:14 PM)
lots of RAM allocated to background and foreground apps means your phone will not be smooth even with FPS uncap, they said in android, the less RAM u have means better because apps are loaded into foreground, and when u want to open it right after you close it, maybe you forgot something or etc, then it will load up faster , that is true, but not entirely good, having more RAM means you will do less app swapping and conflict with the new app you are opening
but loading apps from RAM compared to loading it all the way from intenal storage is faster, wouldnt you agree? so if you keep on flushing RAM, android will have to pick it up all the way from internal storage, thus xtra work.. prob consune more battery power....


of cos, there are still apps out there that are just poorly written...flushing the RAM might solve ur problem short term... but the best thing to do is, stop using it.. throw it away cos if u dont, it will keep on coming back and u'd keep on flushing the RAM most of the time until u got nothing else to do except flushing out RAM cry.gif
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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:18 AM)
lol! the point is not about every single app run in background or not, the point is that is how it works, number of apps affects your phone performances
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No they are right. 100 apps or 200 or even more (yes, I know someone with an X10 who has more than 100 apps and he still have a lot of RAM) doesn't matter as long as they don't eat your RAM by staying in the background all the time, like your apps. Once I see your list, I already knew what's the problem with you not getting many RAM. I prefer not to have many apps in the background -- hence no widgets, no monitoring apps, nothing. I always force close Facebook when I'm not using it. It won't start back as long as I don't touch it. The same for all apps I have.

The result is, I got 160++ RAM when everything has been closed. You will 200 is possible I think, if we stop all cached process. Many apps install might slows down the device, but it's not RAM related. It's the storage's problem.

Also, your CPU governor, scheduler and SD card also play a role in the device speed. If you have a lot of apps in the SD card, it might be slow if the SD card is low class. Governor, I recommend noop or deadline. BFQ should be good for X10 as X10 only has 1Ghz of CPU, but it's still experimental and my X10 always stutters while using it.


Added on November 2, 2011, 4:31 pmAnd I highly recommend SuperCharge V6 script.

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post Nov 2 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Nov 2 2011, 04:29 PM)
Many apps install might slows down the device, but it's not RAM related. It's the storage's problem.


Added on November 2, 2011, 4:31 pmAnd I highly recommend SuperCharge V6 script.
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hmm.gif so if you say its not RAM related, why do you need to free up as much RAM space possible to get the fastest and smoothness overall experience?

if you dont plan to get any notification from facebook, google+, Maps etc, then force closing and app wont hurt anything..
in turn, u'll get more RAM free space...

i still wonder, why do u need that extra freespace?

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Um, SuperCharger isn't only to get the maximum free RAM possible. It's all about memory management. My device feels a lot snappier and less lagging after using it.

Also, the apps I mean is apps which DO NOT stays in the background.

For your second paragraph, I don't understand what you mean. Yeah, it doesn't hurt anything when force closing Facebook, and any other apps equivalent. And I get free RAM in return, so what's the problem? That's what I want.

And extra freespace? What do you mean? What freespace?
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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Nov 2 2011, 07:03 PM)
Um, SuperCharger isn't only to get the maximum free RAM possible. It's all about memory management. My device feels a lot snappier and less lagging after using it.

Also, the apps I mean is apps which DO NOT stays in the background.

For your second paragraph, I don't understand what you mean. Yeah, it doesn't hurt anything when force closing Facebook, and any other apps equivalent. And I get free RAM in return, so what's the problem? That's what I want.

And extra freespace? What do you mean? What freespace?
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i agree.. S/C helps alot with memory management.... the very basic idea of what android are capable of...

force closing FB and not letting it running it on background will definitely free up some RAM space, but it will stop you from getting notification when u get new messages, reply to your post, chat etc... so if u dont plan to get all those, then i totally understand why you want to stop FB from running in the background...

*i meant xtra free RAM space... sori, missed out the "RAM" in my earlier post...*
so if u need that xtra space mainly for HD gaming, then i understand....

but for normal daily usage, i dont think having maximum free RAM is the best thing to do...
i think we are better off having as much RAM space occupied with loaded apps that is important , so its faster to open when we need it....
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Well, I only close things that I don't even use (where they started on their own, e.g. DSPManager).

To stop wasting my time and energy to press force stop all the time, I froze it.

I don't have much apps installed, and not much apps which runs in the background (only 4-6).
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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Nov 2 2011, 07:58 PM)
Well, I only close things that I don't even use (where they started on their own, e.g. DSPManager).

To stop wasting my time and energy to press force stop all the time, I froze it.

I don't have much apps installed, and not much apps which runs in the background (only 4-6).
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are you on GB rom? then maybe u should try leaving them alone.. let Android manage the memory for you...

I used to think the same way when i'm on 2.1 or 2.2... from time to time, i keep on killing those apps that i dont use..
it became a daily routine already..

some reading that might interest some of us in here..
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I know how GB works, I've read that article, I just don't care.

I don't like to see apps I don't use lurking in the shadows. And I don't like to see the "Running Services" list to look long and messy too.

That's all.
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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Nov 2 2011, 05:29 PM)
No they are right. 100 apps or 200 or  even more (yes, I know someone with an X10 who has more than 100 apps and he still have a lot of RAM) doesn't matter as long as they don't eat your RAM by staying in the background all the time, like your apps. Once I see your list, I already knew what's the problem with you not getting many RAM. I prefer not to have many apps in the background -- hence no widgets, no monitoring apps, nothing. I always force close Facebook when I'm not using it. It won't start back as long as I don't touch it. The same for all apps I have.

The result is, I got 160++ RAM when everything has been closed. You will 200 is possible I think, if we stop all cached process. Many apps install might slows down the device, but it's not RAM related. It's the storage's problem.

Also, your CPU governor, scheduler and SD card also play a role in the device speed. If you have a lot of apps in the SD card, it might be slow if the SD card is low class. Governor, I recommend noop or deadline. BFQ should be good for X10 as X10 only has 1Ghz of CPU, but it's still experimental and my X10 always stutters while using it.


Added on November 2, 2011, 4:31 pmAnd I highly recommend SuperCharge V6 script.
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Haha, u tell wat i wanted 2 say. my communication skill is bad. LOL
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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Nov 2 2011, 08:35 PM)
I know how GB works, I've read that article, I just don't care.

I don't like to see apps I don't use lurking in the shadows. And I don't like to see the "Running Services" list to look long and messy too.

That's all.
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hehe...i understand how u feel...
its like those feeling that some1 is watching you from the back... can be creepy sometime...
like a ghost or a stalker biggrin.gif

well.. evryone has evry rights to have their own opinion or way of seeing things..... i respect them nevertheless....
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any third party camera that nice to use? my x10i photo alway blur when i using stock camera app capture ..
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QUOTE(amon90 @ Nov 2 2011, 11:01 PM)
any third party camera that nice to use? my x10i photo alway blur when i using stock camera app capture ..
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no 3rd party apps in the world can beat SE stock camera...
SE stock camera and software still the best among its class...
maybe ur lens is dirty, or faulty.... hav u tried cleaning it?

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so sad x10i will not get 2.3.4 updates... cry.gif
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post Nov 3 2011, 12:27 AM

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jezzzzzzzzz so headache with bootloaders. can anyone guide me?

I've tried on using flashtool 0.4.2 to unlock BL, but i'm not able to click on the run option.

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