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post Aug 3 2011, 01:31 PM

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Booked my appointment for 10.30am tmr at Intan Matang for basic lube service + gear oil change. Anybody interested in joining?


Added on August 3, 2011, 1:35 pm
QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 3 2011, 01:28 PM)
Who say fully syn no good. Fully syn very good ler but might be overkill. It also has gunpowder wan....can blow big holes in your pocket. Thats why some say no good, no value for money, pay big money for much less benefit than your car can use but overall still better than mineral or semi anytime.

The usual Group 3+ fully syn is still the the best hydrocracked minerals that have better stability and stable molecular structure although its still has its limits like contaminants in its oil. Its performance is near fully syn albeit minus several unique properties such as true FS having can hold contaminant better, etc and true FS has lesser amt of VI thus more synthetic oil instead of addictives instead. Normal fully syn still contain way less contaminant than normal mineral besides having better natural VII that had smaller margin of viscosity change (better).

If you can afford it, always go for fully syn if possible, although if you service your car on schedule at every 5K, our usual semi-syn is more than sufficient with oil filter change.

Don't follow like Zen unless you want you sell your car within a couple of years....coz I can imagine the gradual sludge buildup in his almost 10K mileage semi. When car feel draggy and weighted down, the addictives is probably gone and oil truly contaminated no matter how "golden" the oil still looks. Some more no oil filter change. In short term ok, give few years down the road...maybe damage something inside liao..

Ideally you should change lube BEFORE car start feeling draggy, in other words change while addictives is still working thus minimal engine wear out issue in its later life.
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sweat.gif Yeah not recommended to follow my kind of service schedule.. Unless u are pro in self servicing and diagnostics.. Tmr after service will post my findings on how much of contaminant buildup has occured in the oil filter and whether the safety bypass has activated, and also will try to see if the engine oil has started sludging up..

As per highlighted, I guess if they were using Shell then they would have to change engine oil very much earlier.. Personal experience with Helix HX7, after 3k km the engine felt really draggy, I thought it was cos its a Proton and the engine ady gone case..

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post Aug 3 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 3 2011, 01:58 PM)
laugh.gif Yea.. Buy 1 PE free 1 family tikus..
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cit cit and also the screeching sound from this mouse..
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post Aug 3 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Aug 3 2011, 04:19 PM)
Better late than never bro!

Anyway I have a set questions that the pros here might be able to help me out.
1) Gonna have my service this week at Juru SC, they using Petronas Synt 800. Thinking of using better lube cuz my car's pickup from 0-60 very sluggish! Need to tekan kuat a bit then only can feel the torque. FC is about average 9.5, daily jam(considered no highway driving). Might need some suggestion on the brands and type of engine oil ASAP.

2) Common problem with persona, tok tok tok sound when cornering on uneven road. Reported to SC but they said tadak bunyi ar! How to force them to change the power steering assembly???

3) Left side dashboard got krak kruk krak kruk when road is uneven. The sound is very crispy!

4) Driver side door panel making a slight "ting ting" bell like sound unocassionally.

5) Something at the back is lose, having sounds presumably at the back speaker part. Should I ask them to screw everything tight?? LOL!

6) Front brakes making "kroooook" sound when stop and go. Already complain in the last service, but still there. Break pads issue? or perhaps the disk?

Thanks!
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Engine oil for 5k service use Castrol Magnatec Semi, the best u can get so far, for fully synthetic oil use Castrol Edge or Eneos.. Juru SC can help u to install the spark plug for u.. No probs..
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post Aug 3 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Aug 3 2011, 04:50 PM)
Yeah man, those clip is damn fragile, i broke my A-pillar clip too... Hand gatal go and pull it out, driving with rattling sound for a months before sending back SC ask them replace new clip for me.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I assume the Dowontech is the alarm system u posted a video of here last time..
Quality looks nice, start stop button looks expensive.. Wuwu.. If it was cheaper then I would have invested in it..

QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 3 2011, 05:10 PM)
I got no confident in my car's brake. sad.gif.
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Me too.. Next mod is to change the back brake drum to disc brakes.
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post Aug 3 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Aug 3 2011, 05:27 PM)
Replaced by Proton for free. They don't cost much though, for like 20cent satu bijik???
Yes, quality is very good. When the first i asked for a demo unit, i thought it would be another cheaply made product. But then found out the final touch is quite in good quality.

Proton will be more expensive to install because need aftermarket bypass module (XpressKIT), the bypass module comes with the alarm don't work on our Proton transponder. samwongjyhhorng inquired from me too right after i post that thread up.. tongue.gif

If install on japs/korean car, the module will just work fine. Save you from spending RM380 for the Xpresskit.
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Aiseh.. I can forget about it liao... cry.gif

QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 3 2011, 05:36 PM)
Yeah. If I can affordlah sad.gif.
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ARound 800-1k only for new set.

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post Aug 3 2011, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 3 2011, 06:21 PM)
You planning to get the ori from proton? or the custom made one? dono the custom made one good or not?  hmm.gif
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u posted a link b4 for a thread selling the conversion kit right.. that one loh..

QUOTE(saddient @ Aug 3 2011, 07:41 PM)
@Zeng...

any good recommendation for 10k full-syn engine oil ? which brand ?
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fully sync, go for Castrol Edge, Edge Sport(to be confirmed after i try it out tmr),Magnatec 5W-30 and Eneos. trial tested for good performance.

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 3 2011, 08:04 PM)
5130 didn't come out..

But my number came out mBox permutation consolation instead laugh.gif kena 10 bucks..sweat.gif
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*** loh.. i miss 7478.. i bought 7873.. My CKT's car number.. She just got her car today.. I bought RM5 pau.. RM96 in total..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 3 2011, 08:41 PM)
Mine still can go.. I tekan the pedal only 50%  smile.gif
Jom.. I planning to upgrade my brake system as well..
Just now I was at Giant Seri Kembangan..
I came out was travelling 80km/h then all of sudden I just saw a bum infront..
Straight press 100% on brake.. the car still moving and lepas that bum my car speed still at 50km/h  shocking.gif
Castrol Edge 5-40W  biggrin.gif
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Damn.. so terrible.. haha.. Time to get bigger brake pumps..

QUOTE(haur @ Aug 3 2011, 08:45 PM)
Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 ok for 5K service?
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Yeah totally ok.. In fact its the best u can get for a semi..

QUOTE(haur @ Aug 3 2011, 08:54 PM)
people say weight 40 too thick for new car? Confused now.....
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Actually there is a lot of confusion between weight of the oil.. So here is to clarify once and for all..
The weight of the oil is not actually corresponding to the engine mileage.. the 30/40/50/60 is corresponding to the VISCOSITY CHANGE INDEX of the oil.. That means when an oil is like say moderately thick in room temp, then if its a 30grade oil, it means the viscosity change of the oil will be higher than an oil of 60 grade. The higher the grade, the more RESISTANT is the oil to change its original thickness as the op.temp gets higher..

Why are there so many grades of oil?? First of all u must know there are a lot of different types of engine specs.. Long stroke, short stroke, square engine, turbo charged, supercharged blah blah blah.. As the 30 grade oil forms a thinner film of oil along the cylinder wall, it reduces friction, HOWEVER the downside is the REDUCTION in thermal bearing properties of the oil.. Therefore lower grade oil like 20/30grade is more suitable for short stroke and small capacity engines.. Like Myvi, Viva etc. The engine does not produce a lot of heat, therefore even with the lesser grade engine oil, it still is able to conduct heat away effectively..
As for Campro.. Its a long stroke engine. Technically u can use 30grade oil without any harm to the engine. However due to the thinner film and a reduction in heat bearing capability of the oil, more heat is transferred to the engine block and piston, causing engine block or piston bearing failure if u were driving at high rev for an extended period of time, or u exert extreme load on the engine such as heavy acceleration and redline driving.. Using a higher graded oil is able to improve the top range properties but at the expense of increased friction due to the thicker oil film..

Y turbocharged car needs 60 graded oil? Its because with the boost, u tend to be revving hard most of the time..and the extra pressure in the combustion chamber might cause blow-by failure if the oil film is too thin or the piston rings are too worn out.. Causing premature engine failure.. Therefore a thicker oil is able to counter that measure..

Pity my fingers typing these..

QUOTE(saw2001 @ Aug 3 2011, 08:55 PM)
Sifu's,

Yesterday i fill my radiator and the reserve tank full with water. Today my temp went up till red , and i straight park at a side and 2 fans started to blow for 30 minutes. After 1 hour waiting for it too cool down, i open and check the water. Totally empty.

What might be the cause? Can warranty if it leaks or something ??

I am so worried and sad. And how long will it normally take?/

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Erm then can confirm ur radiator or the tubing bocor somewhere.. QUickly bring it to SC to rectify.. Probably ur top tank leaking.. Had this problem b4 with my Sentra.

QUOTE(haur @ Aug 3 2011, 09:17 PM)
KKW i'm in Penang. Going to Juru SC. Any difference between Edge and Magnatec. Asking lame question here.....LOL
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post Aug 3 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 3 2011, 09:46 PM)
What's the difference between dual exhaust and a single but large exhaust?  hmm.gif
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Sound and some backpressure difference.. Basically more to sound difference lah..

QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 3 2011, 09:46 PM)
that one i don think is oem lo. I pm him. He said use back the drum lower arm. did you think it will works? LOL When you wan to install? we go together.  laugh.gif
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Yeah not OEM.. thats what im trying to research also.. I want to know if there is any adverse effect..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 3 2011, 09:48 PM)
I going shah alam next week.. one of my lecture recommend shop to change brake system  smile.gif
That shop mod his track car  brows.gif
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I going tmr to do lube service loh.. hehe..
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post Aug 3 2011, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 3 2011, 10:11 PM)
According to my lecture said the shop can adjust the brake pump to response wor..
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Hmmm never heard of it b4.. I also interested to know how it can be done.

QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 3 2011, 10:45 PM)
like i said depend on whether you wan oem or custom made one. RM850 including installation. if no then don upgrade 1st. fund for the money.  tongue.gif Later if u install the brake pump then jam brake all the time. you susah oh.

I funding slowly until now. LOL icon_idea.gif
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Dunno want to get LCP first or Brake disc first or save up straight for a new set of rims.


Added on August 3, 2011, 10:55 pmCKT manyak sedaapp... biggrin.gif

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post Aug 3 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Aug 3 2011, 10:57 PM)
CKT sedapkan.. no wonder u help her hold the pinkish camera la... hehehe  brows.gif
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Nope.. That was my demo unit actually..
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post Aug 3 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(th3_UnFoRs33n @ Aug 3 2011, 11:02 PM)
Any significant difference in braking after you change to rear disc brake?
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he hvnt change his disc brake yet. He is still funding for it at the moment.

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 3 2011, 11:18 PM)
try for 5-30?


Added on August 3, 2011, 11:21 pm

give u a LIKE
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5-30 is fully sync..
See new CKT as my fb profile pic.. brows.gif
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post Aug 8 2011, 09:29 PM

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Tadah im back.. Damn 55pages of spamming since I was away..
Anybody missed me? biggrin.gif
Any post that needs my reply? cool2.gif

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post Aug 8 2011, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 8 2011, 09:32 PM)
go page 80 post 1599 check my video what kinda of sound is that ? sad.gif
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Deng this PC here got no speakers.. Let me go to Sri petaling later i check it out.

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 8 2011, 09:34 PM)
Deng.. I at Sri petaling now..sweat.gif
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Leaving from pandan indah in around 15mins.

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post Aug 8 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 8 2011, 09:45 PM)
laugh.gif I damn sien.. My butt got mushroom d..
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Sri Petaling there a lot a lot of PRC dens.. CKT and PRC the most.. U can go there HJ, BJ, FJ all..
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post Aug 9 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 8 2011, 01:54 PM)
icon_question.gif  guys new problem found, my PE making a sound like electric motor running while move slowly fwd or rwd from stop position, don't know what si the caus any one having the same problem pls help.  sad.gif

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Sorry bro.. My laptop speakers too weak i think.. cant seem to hear any unusual noise from the video.
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 5 2011, 02:40 PM)
Hmm tered kena closed ady.. What was it about?

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 6 2011, 04:30 PM)
Yours is bulk price ma..
Today I just found out shah alam got one big place to mod car...
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haha.. I found out long long time ago loh.. XD.. The putra and satria drag race machines was from there lah..

QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:28 PM)
cant really see clearly because i was standing quite far to take. but you can see the damage to the front as i hit the divider to move from him after he cut out into my lane just to cut someone without noticing me beside and just went off like that. o0o!!!!! seriously damn tl. my ori rim also spoil. zzz


Added on August 7, 2011, 11:30 pm
im driving in penang..
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thats y lah.. same thing for me also.. the sohai penang driver.. straight u turn from the left lane.. jibai fella bang my car.. somemore say its my fault cos i banged him from the back..

QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Aug 8 2011, 10:46 AM)
bad day for u.. penang driver = soh*i...wan turn left or right, never put signal.. the most i hate one is motorcyclist and aunty driver..

i work at penang but from taiping. please dun hate me.... 
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go there need to drive marauder..

QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Aug 8 2011, 01:37 PM)
Lol. ask him dig around for coins under the seat
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dig up all the coins ady.. sad.gif

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 8 2011, 11:01 PM)
I asked him.. Confirm got.. dont worry..
Btw zeng, he said he don't really recommend ABS..
It's expansive 
I just skim my disc brake..

From
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On the process of skimming
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Tada~ drool.gif
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Icic.. hehe.. like new ady.. how much to skim the disc brakes?

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 9 2011, 12:40 AM)
Zeng again mia haiz  doh.gif
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Busy mah.. somemore my housemate forgot to pay the internet.. so streamyx kena potong loh.. whole weekend dont have internet.

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 9 2011, 04:10 PM)
laugh.gif Hidup lagi ka? So how much u won last nite? XD
sweat.gif Same case with me the other day.. but it was the other way round.. The fella on left lane suddenly jam brake to go to the right lane.. sweat.gif
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lost a lot.. =.=

QUOTE(onijoseph @ Aug 9 2011, 04:52 PM)
yesterday when do alignment, i asked the shop to suck out some extra engine oil.
engine now respond better.
i really wan to shoot the proton mechanic that dun noe anything and pour all 4L of engine oil.
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did they charge to suck out the oil?

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 9 2011, 06:25 PM)
doh.gif OMG gen2 facelift again .....
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OMG wtf is this wei... haiz..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 9 2011, 08:43 PM)
the after facelift one..2008 model..standard car lo..honestly,vios pick up was very power one lo..our campro cant be their match especially from 0-100..even i maintain same speed 60kmh wit it,but once accelerate 2gether,the vios will pick up and drag me one car space 1st..then after tat i juz can catch it up..long time i din rev my car to 6k rpm ady..wat the zeng mentioned reali true lo..my car wasstill  can feel the power keep coming after rev to 5k rpm..zapdos maybe will understand wat i mentioned
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Ya loh.. my car after rev beyond 4.8k the pulling power no more there ady.. sien..

QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 9 2011, 08:54 PM)
BTW KKW how is your persona rear disc brake lubang? You said including installation is RM9xx. At where?

Here is my S-Flow sound. Sorry for the noob camera. 


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Hmmm.. is it just me or i only heard the sound in the first 2 secs only..

QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 9 2011, 09:14 PM)
My car at times hard to start. Need to hold the ignition longer only can start.
I notice vios and myvi exhaust like bigger than PE. Is that why the pickup better ?


Added on August 9, 2011, 9:15 pmBtw, on the speed trap, I thought they will put up signboard and no more hidden or surprise?
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yeah they will put up signboard.. but if u were to notice.. nowadays they DO put up the signboard.. but its a small board in the middle of road.. one small yellow board that says kamera parangkap laju dihadapan..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 9 2011, 09:21 PM)
walau... who said i am gay wor... i am 100% MAN!


Added on August 9, 2011, 9:21 pm

how much the damage?
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100% want MAN only right?? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 10 2011, 12:08 AM)
Not bad lah.. Ok lah for an aftermarket rim.. laugh.gif Got feel lighter? brows.gif Check ur fc.. might drop too..


Added on August 10, 2011, 12:08 am
U can ask Zeng & hammie.. I drove the slowest to Zeng's house yesterday.. So jimat petrol.. brows.gif
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Ya right.. first we all tekan flying down.. then halfway only u slowed down.. haha..

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 10 2011, 12:14 AM)


This is what we need to scare rempits & soh@i drivers off the road..
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post Aug 10 2011, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 10 2011, 12:34 AM)
It will cost RM 70 from the place I change my brake pad
Wow. Are this for sales?  drool.gif
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Yeah.. U can buy it if u want.. But then they will have to screen ur background first.
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Aug 8 2011, 10:16 PM)
sitiawan's gong pian need to book one ler.. last year i go buy, they say need to book... wth..  cry.gif
@xan: butt grow mushroom?  doh.gif
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Whats inside the gong pian ah?

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 8 2011, 10:22 PM)
orang cina punya hari hantu


Added on August 8, 2011, 10:23 pm

u mia so many days... mana pergi?
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Busy loh.. Starting new business..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 10 2011, 08:17 AM)
Waxing effect biggrin.gif
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Btw, I got one problem here..
When in the morning, I start my engine and straight put D and move..
The whole car like "chok ha chok ha" I donno how to explain in english.. doh.gif
It's like the engine wanna move but wanna stop  rclxub.gif
The RPM keep moving up and down between 900-1000
Anyone got this problem or anyone can test on their car?  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Sometimes it might be due to the O2 sensor not properly warmed up yet.. Thats y have that problem..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 10 2011, 10:11 AM)
yalo,but ur car from 2k to 4.5k,ur car was very powerful lo brows.gif


Added on August 10, 2011, 10:13 amPlan to install the CCFL headlamp with daylight and rear lamp(R3 type)..juz paid the car insurane..cost me RM1.1k lo cry.gif
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2-4.5k soso only.. Cant really say got much difference lah.. mb the acceleration time improved by 1 sec only.

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 10 2011, 10:17 AM)
isnt the grill and the bumper is one pcs?
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Nope.. Can be separated.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 10 2011, 12:01 PM)
then after that it becomes normal rite?


Added on August 10, 2011, 12:03 pm
some cars got some cars dun hv. like my brother's naza suria got...if not wrong kenari also got rite?but duno y for PE dun hv...good also la...u dun fasten seat belt...d indicator wont irritates u...when i drive my bro's naza suria...d seatbelt indicator blink blink vry irritating terpaksa fasten seat belt ...
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Yeah true.. Better that they dont install the seat belt indicator.. If not the beeping sound will be damn irritating.. In the Veilfire, whenever u dont put on the seatbelt the beeping will get more and more annoying.. Damn..

QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 10 2011, 07:15 PM)
I feel for myself that:
(1) PE M Line (Auto) brake is really not makan. Is this case for all PE?
    Anyone with M Line Auto with powerful brake (without midify)?
(2) The light at the meter, is it always ON all the time?
(3) Can hear the 'metal sound' coming fr the backseat on uneven road.
(4) The tire pressure fr factory is really powerful, +/-40psi.
And finally,
(5) I heard a "English speaking lady's voice" coming fr inside the car, where did she come fr?
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(5) I want that 'feature'.. brows.gif

QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 10 2011, 07:22 PM)
Sorry for the video, youtube cant sync my audio. Here is the after video conversion.

My S-Flow Muffler


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Very nice lah.. XD.. I like..

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 10 2011, 08:05 PM)
@vccy: wads ur s-flow muff brand? how muc? mind to let me knw? zeng recommend me a RM280 muff but forget to ask him wad brand
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That one is G-Racing Ti-C.. Replica of Greddy Ti-C Racing.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 11 2011, 02:35 AM)
Depends lah.. The gong pian AFAIK got 3 types.. 1 normal wan, with no fillings.. Another 2 is with char siew or fried onions in it..
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Wah i want the charsiew one.. hehe.. Dont rmb eating this kind of gong pian though..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 11 2011, 08:04 AM)
What does o2sensor will do?
How much would it cost for this o2sensor?
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o2 sensor to track the amount of oxygen in ur exhaust and increase or reduce the fuel ratio to get better power and economy..

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 08:52 AM)
laugh.gif can't stop laughing till now for no.5 laugh.gif  laugh.gif could it be from the radio or a ENGLISH laddy in your car, perhaps she is from Lotus engineering  laugh.gif  else you really need to bring your car to your religion master for clean and clear the DIRTY thing inside your car. shocking.gif
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It aint DIRTY to me.. hahaha... I think while the Lotus engineers in UK were tuning the suspension that time one of the fella had some backseat sex and left the girl there after the breaking in session for ur suspension.. XD

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 11 2011, 09:53 AM)
the english women speaking Hokkien  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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LOL.. Must be a singaporean then.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Aug 11 2011, 09:55 AM)
Hi guys,

wonder any of you experience before the Brake Pump Fluid Container was leaking fluid on the Cap Gap area ?

Any solutions for this ?
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Yeah mine do leak a bit.. Although i think its due to my hardcore cornering.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 11 2011, 10:16 AM)
wat is throttle controller?? for wat purpose? roughly how much?
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Its around RM350.. What it does is it modifies the signal from ur throttle to the car ECU.. So if u were to select sports mode for the controller.. If u press 25% of ur throttle the throttle controller will change the signal to lets say, 55% and sent it to ur ECU.. So u get a simulated more quicker throttle rate.. There are 3 modes in the controller, sport, normal and eco.. For me its rather useless cos u can always modify the throttle respond rate by using ur right foot. if u want more power u mah tekan faster lah.. Simple as that..

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