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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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post May 20 2012, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ May 20 2012, 04:38 AM)
Ur cost of advertisement ler? tongue.gif
No need sleep ar bro yawn.gif
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post May 20 2012, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 20 2012, 05:34 AM)
Good defense from chelsea, luckily Terry red card and not playing otherwise chelsea going to lose this game .. Congrat chelsea ... Spurs condolence ...
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post May 24 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 24 2012, 12:50 AM)
can it justify RM1.0mil price tag when vp if not even have guard hse?
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In 2007-2008, there were people in Bdr Kinrara questioned the same thing "can it justify RM700K price tag when vp if not even G+G"
Remember few mths back when Temasya Glenmarie launched? 28'x70' (1.0 mil) and 120'x70' (1.7 mil), someone also questioned the same thing "can it justify RM1.0mil price tag when vp if not even G+G?", few thousands turned up for the balloting, those guys silent & speechless.
I bet in 2016-2018, someone will say again "can it justify RM1.5mil price tag when vp if not even have guard hse?"


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:35 am
QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 24 2012, 08:57 AM)
Is 50% for Pentas 1 unless not enough bumi to take up. I was queue that day but SA no allowed me to enter the booking room till next bumi showed up. Little upset that day but lucky still have good unit available. I think prior to me already have 2/3 non bumi on that day July 23rd 2011.
Anyway, is very sad to hear that SA cannot confirm fence, but UFO gang keep on promote Pentas for I&P saying has fence.
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SA has to say that, original plan is like that.

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post May 24 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 24 2012, 10:43 AM)
relax, brother, i am not Toptail from the other forum that sell everything and live in a rented apartment waiting for the market to crash. I am also an active investor and still investing, i just want to justify if Pentas series, in particular, when VP is it achievable to reach RM1.0mil when it comes to subsales. I need more points to convince myself.

All the places that u mentioned, i am aware of them, and these are quite matured area....the same history may not apply in elsewhere, so it is location x3, with the current security issues in the country, school kids got kipnapped, so many house broke ins, day light snatch theif, lobbery, ppl prefer houses with securities. Either fenced up, or GNG. This is the future trends. INP need to follow the trends and cannot ignore the security issues.
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Fenced and gated is definitely a BIG bonus to Pentas. i am not developer thus kenot give any promises. My calculation is, even Pentas is withoiut fence, it is still worth buying. The future mkt (buyers) will be those staying in a normal link house who is seeking to upgrade to SD.
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post May 27 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 26 2012, 10:09 PM)
Here some comparison for Pentas 1 vs Pentas 2 type A1 without courtyard. Pictures was taken together with NK today under hot sun.

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Pentas 2 is a winner. The room is so spacious as compare to Pentas 1. Closet also 2 ft longer.

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Pentas 2 ceiling height is ~12ft vs Pentas ~11ft. Pentas 2 Kitchen also wider with diffrent layout.

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Pentas 1 parquest quality seem like better and thicker. Pentas 2 show unit family room parquet width look thinner.

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Again Pentas 2 living hall look bigger with diff layout. Pentas 1 has corner glass that took out some space.

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Pentas 2 staircase cover all. I feel it is few inches wider compare to Pentas 1.

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I like Pentas 1 sunroof, seem lot better than Pentas 2. Pentas 1 will have plaster ceiling cover the family room. While Pentas 2 no plaster ceiling cover and family hall look higher.

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Pentas 1 living hall longer. Pentas 2 wider.

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Pentas 2 carporch tile

In summary, master bedroom and ceiling height are the most significant items in my own opinion. Pentas 2 overall build up is better. I also noticed Pentas 2 has tinted green color glass while Pentas 1 solid transparent. On the other hand, Pentas 1 parquest quality seem a bit better and they have 1x2 tiles size at car porch. Pentas 2 is worth for ~12% premium over Pentas 1.
Pentas 2 with courtyard house is not ready, but can notice living hall is a lot smaller based on the piles concrete. Onemore thing, cannot find the lake on the west side. The worker there said never saw any lake there. We lazy to continue do searching for it due to hot sun and big truck blocking our way.
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Great!! It is very nice to hv 12ft ceiling height, it gives more space. Indeed Pentas 1&3 design is quite average, the best part is the master bedroom, very big. Timber flooring shd be standard. I foresee I&P will give better quality for Pentas 3 in terms of sanitary fittings, doors or lock sets.
The double ceiling family hall for Pentas 2 is another selling point, owner can modify a bit to add one more utility rooms on top become 4+2.


Added on May 27, 2012, 2:18 am
QUOTE(hairuluia2002 @ May 26 2012, 10:28 PM)
pentas 1 corner lot (if i am not mistaken) http://youtu.be/0AjWahnIBvQ
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The video is posted by you right? It is Pentas 1 corner.

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post May 27 2012, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 27 2012, 04:08 AM)
The different between pentas 1 and 2 is ceiling height different by 1ft, so more space for pentas 2, so not so good caused it will consume more aircon power ...and also second floor ceiling different by at least 8 to 10 feet ... Ceiling fan installation going to b expensive ... Masterbed bigger also will consume more aircon power ... Self comforting ... Sob sob ....
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QUOTE(supersp @ May 27 2012, 09:26 AM)
Always wanted to ask, y clay bricks better than sand bricks? I know clay is more expensive cost wise, but dunno why is it better?
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Clay is of course better in terms do hardness, sound insulation and better in heat insulation
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post May 27 2012, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(supersp @ May 27 2012, 09:11 AM)
I asked bcs most of the houses i stayed, staying currently or invested are using full clay bricks. The developers range from small unknown developer to big developers like SPS, Gamuda etc. Hence i dun think it is a common practise, it all depends on developer ...
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More things to consider, so far I hv not seen a perfect link houses being built.
1. Clay brick is definitely better than sand brick.
2. Roof truss - Timber / Light weight steel truss
3. Roofing tiles - concrete / clay
4. Piping - steel / ABS
5. Flooring - parquet / laminating / solid timber (narrow / wide strip)
6. Sanitary fittings - Normal / quality
7. Wall finishes - Skim coating?
8. Roofing heating resistant - Heat Resistant Sheet installed?
9. Flooring tiles - Hardness / Durability / glossiness / stain resistance etc
10. Type of door / gate / handrail
11. Fence - porch fence + backyard fence
12. Front gate imprint pavement
13. Ceiling height = more space

All I can say Pentas fit 90% of the above, selling <RM300/sf, where to find?

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QUOTE(jucl @ May 27 2012, 01:23 PM)
wah... truly impressed.... if only got bullet can buy a few unit and keep..
Anyway, since pentas 3 is also almost sold, i heard they will be lauching the next superlink, also 25x85. Anyone can confirm this news?
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Next one shd be 22'x80' (Precinct 1), or 24'x80 (Precinct 2).
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post May 27 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 27 2012, 02:09 PM)
Seriously?? Pentas 3 sold much faster than pentas 2. Maybe pentas 2 launch timing is not so good, just after US debt issue and credit downgrade by snp ... Lost momemtum on first few days effected the buyer mood. Now seem loke picking up again ...


Added on May 27, 2012, 2:11 pm

Taiko of landed, any idea on the price? And when they launch ...
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Dunno ler, Precinct 1 too near to mosque, not to my liking
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post May 27 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 27 2012, 04:33 PM)
1. Taiko, do you mean sand brick now has been upgraded?

7. Pentas 1 is using aluminium foil. Pentas 2 i can see is aluminium foil on one sided facing the roof but the other side is white color dunno wat it is facing down, better one?
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Ya I think he means kalsa brick. Kalsa has been an alternative for clay brick lately, due to shortage of supply.
In my opinion, I am more concern on roofing tiles, clay roof tiles is NOT very common in use even though for SD / bungalow project, 70% of the heat is generated through roof top, clay tile helps to filter heat and hardness ensure durability. Most importantly clay roof tile ensure color freshness, the entire piece of tile is made by clay (red in color) while concrete tile is coated on the surface, after 7-8 yrs, the color will fade and become darken, it made a Taman / hse looks old.
Nowadays landed property value can achieve greater appreciation are due to 3 main factors :-
1) G+G / F+G
2) Neatness - all house design synchronized
Freshness - Clay roof tiles
Cleaniness - Road curb / standard road pavement
3) Township scale - DPC / Setia Alam / Mutiara Damansara / Sri Tanjong are the top 4 most successful concept I named in this country. Hopefully AI can achieve at least 40% of the above would be good enuf.

Today's when we talk bout how well a house/Taman being maintained are determined by 3 aspects :-
1. Roof color
2. Road pavement - more specifically the design of road curb and standard imprint outside the gate, systematic and Syncronized pattern produces neat and cleanliness feeling.
3. Flat roof car porch - those old house with pitched roof design are not popular anymore. The worst part is when someone change the pitched roof to flat roof, it looks weird and ugly (different look fr neighbors).

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Added on May 27, 2012, 5:21 pm
QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ May 27 2012, 04:12 PM)
Allow me to speak a few words:-
4. Most developer has removed the option of parquet. They are looking at laminated timber / engineered wood / solid timber. Laminated timber is the favourite as the tonality of wood is spread evenly compare with solid timber. For info, solid timber has varies tonality which not all owner can accept this fact due to the wood naturality.
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Agree that laminated flooring allow more choices in color selection, it is widely used by interior designer as it is flexible in color and texture. I hv seen very good engineered wood but it needs very good workmanship, if not the end result wouln't be good.
Solid merbal timber / teak wood gives a very narural feeling and last longer. Those wide strip timber are verrry costly indeed, it could cost 100K alone just for a normal SD. (depends on the type of wide and dimension).


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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ May 27 2012, 04:12 PM)
Allow me to speak a few words:-

3. Using ABS is common in piping unless specified by SYABAS. The best would be Galvanized Iron (GI).
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Chief, I tot GI Pipe is in history now? Will get rusted. ABS / PA would be common and more lasting, I heard a contractor say it can last 100 yrs no leaking problem, dunno true or not?

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 27 2012, 05:55 PM)
Why so happy? You must be Pentas 2 owner:) Me and NK so sad that day after knowing the fact that Pentas 2 bigger masterbedroom and toilet + ceiling height extra 1 ft. Pentas 2 however did win back some points with bigger backroom toilet, car porch tiles, sunroof, staircase brighter, etc. But also Pentas 1 losing more pts on living hall spacious + P2 nicer closet ...
But after go back home and reading all the comments, now I feel better as it is all personal preference. And feel great my future neighbor hood house design better and my pentas also no so bad la.
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Pentas 1 best selling point is the facade, trust me.
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 27 2012, 05:56 PM)
Correction: Pentas 1 however did win back some points with bigger backroom toilet, car porch tiles, sunroof, staircase brighter, etc.
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Taikor, indeed I rate the "void area" bout 7'x10' next to the staircase, which give the feel of double ceiling height as the 2nd best selling point for Pentas 1 you know? Then followed by the glass roof top at the stair as 3rd best feature.
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ May 27 2012, 06:28 PM)
Ya, pentas 2 owner but why I  notworthy.gif  is because both you and NK deserves  notworthy.gif  as you two take your time to take photos and upload here  rclxms.gif

Anyway, I think pentas 1, 2 & 3 are all winners!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Correct, Pentas 3 and 2 has the locality advantage over Pentas 1. Pentas 3 material used could be better I think
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ May 27 2012, 06:36 PM)
Locality advantage? Care to elaborate?
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Slightly higher ground and away fr main road. AI elevation is relatively low compare to Subang, range fr 18m - 50m, Pentas1 is bout 20m-25m which I think is not high enuf.
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QUOTE(jucl @ May 27 2012, 08:36 PM)
tai kor ufo, u mean ai sits on a lower ground compare to subang. How ai compare to kota kemuning or area nearby?
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I never test b4, perhaps google earth may get rough estimation, Kemuning area I dun really like coz certain areas are sitting on peat soil land. I prefer cut land
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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 27 2012, 09:37 PM)
Pentas 1 do has more complex facade and Pentas 2 has simple facade. Both are nice to me, really mean it not a diplomatic statement  biggrin.gif  ... Pentas 2 intermediate has 6 glass frame on ground floor, even though without sunroof, the natural lighting to inside house are actually not bad ... I can imagine the pentas 2 with courtyard would has almost similar natural lighting like corner/end lot ....

Pentas 1

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Pentas 2

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SPBB, how is Pentas 3 sales?
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QUOTE(AMINT @ May 28 2012, 10:24 AM)
Can no problem. But based on what I see, UFO-ET is the most taiko on Pentas. Almost like Pentas database. hehehe
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Taikor? "Tai Yee Lone" may be.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 30 2012, 03:58 PM)
This is story i heard too but I doubt of this... lets see how...

RM900k wow... so fast...

900 - 762k = 138K  notworthy.gif
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This info shd be correct.
We use to sell I&P new house prior to the VP for many years (since 2000), I hv sold many of them. Quote an example, Kinrara BK5 Sentosa, developer launch Sept 2009, in Dec 2009 we already transacted the 1st sub-sale, upon VP in 2011, more than 20 units hv been sold.
AI is not Kinrara, the entire residential development is only 50% completed, this kind of early sales not easy as developer still has many phases launched in future, unless the calling price is like 830K-850K for Pentas 1, that could possible to secure sub-sale buyer.
The advantage of 1st owner to dispose off the under construction house is for him to obtain a new loan (to buy another property). Although he is only getting 10% payment before the VP.

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