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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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post May 12 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ May 12 2012, 02:25 PM)
you mean they allocate a piece of land for graveyard or is already a graveyard.

Anyway, that low cost flat is a bit far from pentas. Shud be ok...i hope so.
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Dun worry on graveyard lah...it is not really that concern matter by house buyer now, nowadays hantu lagi takut manusia ya, human come hantu janji lari kuat-kuat!!
Nolah the most concern for us shd be flood issue coz AI is just neigjbourong the river. But I think shd be alright.
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QUOTE(skptc @ May 12 2012, 02:40 PM)
its allocated for graveyard .
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Opposite Bdr Kinrara also has a piece of reserved cemetery land, nobody cares bout it, and I was told bh a land surveyor that the gomen has sold it to private developer.
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QUOTE(AMINT @ May 12 2012, 04:19 PM)
I smell spoiler. hehe
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No worries! Real estate is tangible, good is good, no good is no good. Quality products will be able to sell by itself, seeing is believing. Healthy forum welcome constructive opinions.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 12 2012, 11:51 AM)
If I do remember Pentas 1 is only 45 units Pentas 2 101 units and Pentas 3 is 77 units smile.gif

Lion King how i wish I got that amount smile.gif
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Pentas 1 - Total 90 units
1st Launched - 57 units
2nd Launched - 33 units allocated for 60 prospect who queued for launch 1

Pentas 2- Total 101 units
Pentas 3 - Total 77 units

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post May 12 2012, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ May 12 2012, 10:23 PM)
Why issit that you are sad. Ang Ang U want I&P to launch more units?
by the way, what are the future launches after pentas 3.

I heard they are considering smaller unit 22x 80.. easy to sell kua. if only i&p can change to g&g, im sure the value will go up like mad.
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Futures

Precinct 1
1) A1-08-2S - 22'x80' - 120 units
2) A1-11-2S - 22'x80' - 80 units

Precinct 2
1) A2-01(a)-2S - 24'x80' - 125 units
2) A2-01(b)-2S - 24'x80' - 113 units
3) A2-02(a)-2S - 25'x85' - 80 units
4) A2-02(b)-2S&3S - 25'x85' - 73 units
5) A2-02©-2S&3S - 25'x85' - 92 units

Precinct 3
1) A3-04-2S - 24'x80' - 172 units
2) A3-03-2S - 26'x85' - 60 units
3) A3-02-2S - 28'x80' - 126 units

Note : Precint 3 lot size and units available are estimated, pending I&P announcement. IMHO, the best and safer bet in AL I&P is Precint 2 which is away fr Mosque, relatively highland, superb land size, nearer to Bungalow and commercial zones.

The launching is considered slow, judging fr the speed like this, in order to launch all the remaining phases, 3 more years to go. This is why I say Pentas sun sale price will reach the peak by 2015, for investor, it is advisable to keep at least till 2014. my 2 bakuli smile.gif

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post May 13 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ May 12 2012, 11:26 PM)
taikor ufo.

Salute you lah. where do get all this information. Is pentas in precint 2?

judging from the sales of pentas 3, i dont think I&P will increase the price.
as of now, i heard only 30 biji kena sapu.
one thing i cannot understand.  i&P office close on sat & sun- sometime how to do sales?  ppl normally free weekend mah. furthermore, i dun see them advertise.

and for the future launches with smaller built up, price should be lower 600K++ I guess.
any idea price per sq ft and build up. maybe have to wait a while more before pentas price can appreciate kau kau...
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It is a shame that I&P is not "keen' to sell off the unsold units in hand, I dunno why? In my eye, they are having a good products but has no idea how to position it, location is right, pricing is right, product quality if superb, by right shd be able to fetch a higher price and creating a BBB mode among buyers. Fr this Alam Impian case, you shd know that "Marketing" is a very important element that every developer shd emphasis, nowadays whoever master in A&P and factor in flexible finance packaging , who will be the winner in the end. SPS is a classic example.
For house buyer who buy for own stay, just buy early. For investor, by right shd bet Precinct 3 becoz it reach the end of the whole development, a sudden price appreciation effect will happen. However when I study further, 25'x85' is a size that no one shd miss, it will be very scarce in the future, if can hold 5 years, the return is very promising! rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 13 2012, 12:10 AM)
You must be some management team in InP Lol
Bro... they open on Saturday, close on Sunday and public holiday... very inconvenient... should open on Sunday smile.gif
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Frankly if m in the sales team, it could be a disaster to house buyers... tongue.gif
p/s : how to sell at this "low" price? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(spydermind @ May 13 2012, 12:51 AM)
Like it or not, the townplan is not good and infrastructure development is not well executed. Coupled with I&P kind of marketing....dont expect the same impact like Setia Alam.

SP Setia is putting international school, SEP right close the toll entering SA....while I&P plan a mosque. school. right after the toll...

The road into AI suddenly narrowed to 2 lane and immediately hit a round about before you reach anyway.....They could have zone up the land for future development more properly, extending the main road to full 2 lanes per direction (at least).

On the marketing aspect....i registered for 3 times at least with I&P....no notification at all......this forum offering much better information. Sime latest Delora in Bukit Raja also selling much better and attract more attention than AI.

Other started a township (like this size) with slightly smaller house or cheaper house. I&P doing it the other way round by offering bigger house first....smaller and cheaper house are needed and easily to attract buyer. IT is good for publicity and drive up the growth....

If not because of NAza, it will take at least another few more years to develop the place...
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Agree with you in certain extend. But pls get the fact right before comment further.
B4 Pentas 25'x85' launched, the previous launches since 2006 were :-
1. 22' x 80'
2. SD 40'-50' x 80'
3. 24' x 80'
4. 22' x 80'
5. 22' x 80'
6. 22' x 80'
7. 24' x 80'
8. 24' x 80'
9. 24' x 80'
10. Pentas 1 25' x 85'
11. Pentas 2 25' x 85'
12. Pentas 3 25' x 85'
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So, did I&P start bigger size 1st or later?

Note : The Precinct 1 remaining 22' x 80' was due to land issue, according to SA, not very sure bout that.
I wonder is TTDI needs I&P or vice versa? Unless TTDI own a large piece of commercial land like SPS in Setia Alam, and well develop it like SA, otherwise I dun see your point here.

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As an investor, I must say Setia Alam is very successful township, no doubt! Credit to SPS who does a great job! I dun see AI will be able to match Setia Alam in commercial play, no way even after 10 years! But the question is why must we compare Setia Alam alone? Can anyone tell me which new township has the potential to overtake SA in terms of township planning and value creation? Past is past, I never look back, if someone ask me now "shd I buy the landed property 22'x75' in SA or 25'x85' in AI" for investment (bout the same price), I must say AI has a greater chance to achieve higher gain than SA.
Let's see wat will happen after 5 yrs...
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ May 13 2012, 07:35 PM)
After reading over 100 pages from this AI forum,  ....i think AI is one of the best bargain whether for staying and Investment in K.Valley....hope Inp will do more to bring up the value in AI
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nod.gif nod.gif !!

In terms of value for money, Pentas is definitely the choice one. I visited D'Island today, to my surprise, LBS 4th launch :-
Tenure : Leasehold
Land size : 24' x 80'
Built up : 4200 sf -
No of storey : 3
No of units : 60
Price : RM1.7 mil up
As at today : 40 units sold!! shocking.gif shakehead.gif

Can you sense anything? it's a clear signal, Superlink homes which offer >3000sf b/up, 2/3 stry, 5-7 rooms will be a future trend and demand is assured.
Fr Kinrara Residence, Seri Jalil, Mansion, Tree Residence, USJ Heights, Empire Residence, D'Island, Temasya Glenmarie, Reed@Lake Field, Reflection, Delora are all receiving great response and selling at record price! The only exceptional case are The Glades@Putra Heights, Qaseh Kinrara, both either toooo expensive or due to terrible design. The biggest section in landed residential is 2-storey link, however 4R3B will no longer able to meet modern living style. 5R5B is the answer!

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 14 2012, 10:23 AM)
not sure how to push I&P. The agents there always said community need to setup themself. However, sources from UFO mentioned I&P will do it for all all Pentas and onwards launches, but community need to setup autopass guard house. Seem like 2 diff version for F+G.
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Just discuss some matters pertaining to commercial development with my contact, they are in the process to finalise the hypermarket operator (I think is Tesco) and the international school, the foreign operator has just presented their business module to I&P head of marketing lately, I was told that both are confirm players, but pending for location selection.
Just to share the pictures again. On 5/10/2011, I saw 2 Englishmen together with I&P staff discussing on setting up international school in the sales office. AI has a plot of land for that purpose.


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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 14 2012, 11:52 AM)
International School? Who going to study there ah? just curious hehehe... Very expensive wor smile.gif
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Ok notes taken. I will review this post 5-10 years later... laugh.gif

Remember 10 years ago, how people comment Malton on developing Bkt Rimau? Many said that who want to live there? some more asking Taiwanese (foreigners) to stay so far...bla bla.. can you see what happen now? The Taiwanese village is doing quite well I think.
International school, the mkt catchment is not limited ti AI alone right? Never say never lor nod.gif


Added on May 14, 2012, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(Ang Ang @ May 14 2012, 11:39 AM)
Well, if hypermarket & international school can be positioned right beside the main entrance, it will give 20% value added to I&P. Seem like the school and the hyper most probably will be put close to TTDI sites, those site more suitable for this as more modern house.
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Boss, mind to elaborate? hmm.gif


Added on May 14, 2012, 12:10 pmThe land next to Pentas which is allocated for Pangsapuri has been altered. is link house development

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 14 2012, 05:15 PM)
As i remember the model show that plot of land at entrance is for mosque and islamic centre. Not AI itself. Not a big issue for me.
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Location near the mosque is definitely a negative effect, it will make the price drop at bout 5%-10%. However it is not that bad as what we think, so long it is located out of 100M in radius, the mkt price will not be much affected. Sri Petaling price (big mosque), Bdr Kinrara (Big mosque), Sri Damansara (Big Mosque), are those house price cheap?
p/s : Agent just transacted 2 SD at 3.4 mil each in BK (new), quite near to the mosque also (bout 1,137m fr mosque), another Qaseh SD at 3.45 mil (970m fr mosque). Pentas is 1,483m fr the mosque. End of day, accessibility and the house design are matter.

The most serious issue affecting property prices in term of seriousness :
1. House defect - Settlement due to underground water, or major structural crack due many factors
2. Landslide area
3. Haunted
4. Direct Facing graveyard (not referring to cemetery reserved land)
5. T-Junction
6. Flood
7. Direct facing HTC
8. Direct facing / blocked by overhead bridge
9. Direct facing mosque
10. Bad management (condo)
11. Mining land - some claim got radiation effect
12. Direct facing Highway
13. Direct facing Factory / shoplots (crime concern)
14. Bad house design (like the Cheras Disneyland house)
15. Leasehold

etc etc...

Conclusion ; There is no perfect house in the market, if you really found one, the price must be "Perfect" too! icon_idea.gif
my 2 cent smile.gif

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 14 2012, 11:24 PM)
My personal choice, as a non muslim i will try to avoid near mosque, not because of the noice only, also during the prayer time (whole month of Ramadan and during Friday), many cars triple park, quadruple parks, it will affects the traffic, can't move at all, problem to go out or come back to hse, affect the living routine.
The subsales purchasers could be another Muslim or Non Muslim who do not mind the problems that i mentioned earlier. If for own stay, less hassle. If for investment then try to avoid any investment that will limit your potential market/ narrow focus group.
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>95% of Kinraa subsale sold to non-muslim. >95% the non muslim mind to buy house very near to mosque, but what make them buy those houses although it is near mosque? Becoz there are more important factors needed to be considered in purchasing a house for own stay, wat I mean if one insist somewhere totally away fr mosque, they face other problems as well. Sri Petaling and Kinrara are selling so well / high indirectly signal that mosque is really not that matter.
Mind to share where is your choice area? smile.gif

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 15 2012, 12:32 AM)
No need to debate abt this issue, we just have different preference.

I am staying in a Taman where my hse is 3km away from the mosque, but the routine is i need to pass-by the said mosque b4 going to the main road, so when the traffic jam happened due to the prayer time, i need to slow down the car, stucked and can't U turn, i can in fact take longer alternative ways but sometimes forget it is Friday or Ramadan Month.

Actually not only cars that coz the jam, also the hawkers outside the mosque selling drinks, ice cream, Nasi campur, pisang goreng, lots of ppl crossing the roads despite red lights, plus the triple/ quadruple parks cars also. A disaster.
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Totally agree, till today I still dun understand why the gomen kenot plan a proper parking for prayers, it can be planned & organised properly. It always jam jam jam during Friday praying time
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QUOTE(jeghui @ May 15 2012, 12:48 AM)
You guys are like saying "the smell of colok at tokong cina is so disturbing."

Proper Msians will GO to the hawkers and buy nice msian food. Instead of avoiding the makciks.

Proper msians would understand every Friday avoid roads to the mosque coz its jam. Even muslims who skip friday prayers also know this. They hide in office or smoke cigarettes at the steps...
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We are just pointing the issue of traffic, how nice if every mosque also build a basement car park for prayers to park, good for everyone, same goes to all the religious buildings, I saw prayer having difficulty finding parkings every Friday.
parking is just a simple problem, solve it, why let it be like that avoiding it. For old mosque, seems like nothing can be done, new one shd be planned properly.
The smell & sounds is the samelah, we must understand and be tolerate. No issue bout that.

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 15 2012, 05:46 PM)
Setara Pelana (Pentas 3)
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The Proposed Construction And Completion Of 77 Units Double Storey Terrace Houses Including One (1) Unit TNB Sub-Station And Local Infrastructure Works At Phase A2-03C, Alam Impian, Seksyen 35, Shah Alam
06-12-2011
RM 36,616,821.49

Jasmurni  (Pentas 2)
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Cdg Mbina Dan Menyiapkn 101 Unit Rumah Teres 2 Tingkat Yang Mengandungi 67 Unit Jenis A,13 Unit Jenis B,17 Unit Jenis C Dan 4 Unit Jenis D Dalam Fasa A2-03b Di Alam Impian, Seksyen 35, Shah Alam 17-08-2011
RM 39,800,000.

Seem like Pentas 2 is more worth smile.gif
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Why leh? How to do an analysis fr this total construction cost? In my rough estimation, both are bout the same, Pentas 3 command higher cost due to bigger built up. But I still can't figure any breakdown analysis fr the above data.
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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 15 2012, 06:52 PM)
Why pentas 2 more worth le? Average cost per house for pentas 2 is 400k. Average cost for pentas 3per house is 470k. Still cant figure out the build up of pentas 3, how they calculate ...
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I do not know how the pentas 3 is bigger in bu, I think may be comes fr car porch, Pentas 3 porch cover area looks sligtly bigger, do you feel that, my master? nod.gif
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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 15 2012, 07:30 PM)
Dont char me la, u r the only master sifu here.

Probably the car porch and cover bigger , and also at the back of the house they install tiles. A little different but cost different so much. Construction cost naik? Or labour cost naik due to minimum wages? Or maybe pentas 3 come with gold toilet bowl ?  tongue.gif
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Let me go to the site to inspect, may be got basement swimming pool yo biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 18 2012, 11:57 AM)
Cant really remember the value, i think is much more than 5k.
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I think it is excluding the stamping fees (0.5% of loan amt), dun worry you tala kena conned

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