this is a do-u-agree-with-me / what-would-you-do-if-you-were-me thread.

I been unemployed for almost half a year because of what i done, rejecting all the call that asking for current and expected salary.
There is not a single call that don't ask for my salary info. This has been making my parent and me very angry and frustrated.

so any way to get job from company that don't ask for salary info?


P/S: 2 years IT industry working experience.

I dont think so. All company will ask for your last drawn salary, why you want to hide your salary from your employer?
How about you think like that, will you accept a job without knowing the salary to be offered?

This post has been edited by imyourlimbeh: Jul 20 2011, 04:54 PM

If the company who is keen to hire you, they want to find out whether your asking salary will be too high to be considered or not before they short list you to be called for interview. They probably have many other candidates to choose from and hence they dont want to waste their time and your time if you are asking for a unreasonable salary later on. I do not foresee what's wrong for giving them your salary info as with 2 years experience, it is still pretty much remain at standard market value unless you have special skills or qualification or you applying some unusual post. Else, they just want to double check to save you time and their time.

well done. keep it up.

Probably TS wants to go for interview first before negotiating the salary. Like me, i dont need to ask the salary and i will go for interview to find out the job first, if i like the job, then, i will take up the job if the salary offer is acceptable for me. If not acceptable, i will just decline the job offered, and if they really want me after interviewed me and because i fit in very well to their post, they will call you and re-negotiate with you. At least i did this many years ago and rejected them 2 times and the 3rd time they calling me and offering the salary scale near to the top scale for my position at that time. Unless you are out of job, else you wont have such bargaining power, or you have lots of $$$ to back u up while you are still unemployed.

I want to a company that offer me the salary based on my technical/soft skills and my presentation during the F2F interview.
most of the call/email i received required me to write down the salary first before the company will proceed to interview me.



the thing is most company will offer you salary based on your last drawn salary + XX% which is true 90% of the company I interviewed. I still have money left for a few months.

Maybe you should give them a range... not to be too specific... at least the employer hv some idea beforehand.

Current Salary - sure, go ahead and hide. But expected salary imo if the company asks, then you should give. From an employer perspective, especially for junior-level hires, this would give me an up front indication of whether your salary expectations are within what I'm looking to pay. If your expectation higher than what I think you're worth, then we don't need to waste time going through interview and all that, no?

Look, even if I want to post a job opening into Jobstreet, they require me to put the salary range

you are correct that company dun wan waste time,but they already put out the salary range.


there are company that advertised their salary range, since they put out their salary range. I gave my salary expectation at the lowest range.They still ask for my last drawn salary.

biar mati kebuluran, jangan putih mata.

your salary is P&C and is none of other business.

your expected salary is for them to offer, do not undermine your worth by putting a value.

in any case, i am interested to see the outcome of your tale.

If you dont state your salary, and they decide to hire you, what if they offer you the salary that lower than your last drawn salary since you did not indicate to them. Will you accept that or you start to tell them you are drawing much more than that in your last employment? Will you?

What if you are now working in the HR department and you are doing the hiring job, what would you do if there are some people who apply the job and never stated their present salary and expected salary. Imagine you have 100 applicants and you need to hire one or two. Who will you call for interview? Remember, for junior staffs, almost everyone out there are same. If i pick who to come to interview, if got attached with a photo and if "leng lui", sure will get a call for interview....

biar mati kebuluran, jangan putih mata <-- ape maksud ayat ini?

now, what should I do?

A. give out all my salary info --- and get any freaking job available
B. only give out expected salary
C. still proceed as usual, still have 3 months reserve left.

Many are just junior HR staffs follow company SOP to do things lar. Actually, i can teach you a trick, you can bluff them your salary mah if you worry....later if they find out, say may be mistake lor.....by then, you have achieve your aim for going to F2F interview and do your presentation liao lor....happy ending????

my friend.

if you took any job that came along 6 months ago, you'd at least have 6 months of gaji and epf.

but since you chose to hold your stand on not giving out salary info, and since you can afford it, i suggest you make this an example case study of how one can get a good job without having to divulge p&c info in the malaysian job market.

who knows, your case might be inspiration to many candidates to stop giving out their salary info, and no longer be underpaid.

in the candidate's circle, you will be legend.

for what it's worth, it's typically HR who causing all this trouble. When I wanna hire a person I don't care what his last drawn salary is. But HR will campur tangan and say nono we must know what is his last drawn salary so that we can benchmark here and there and don't overpay him or whatever.

If you have done it for half a year and no results, then you just have to go with the flow. If you have no leverage, you have to follow what the customer wants.

Eventhough there are some members here who have advised against revealing your current pay, you have to realize that your skillset has to be 100% better than the rest of the competition to do so.

But it is your decision.

typical fail mindset of HR here.

they already have a bloody budget/salary range.

last time i always *** kau those HR who are scared to "overpay". why cant you just assume the candidate was underpaid? why cant you use the probation period to gauge his worth? whats the point of hiring someone "first time right" if you already wrong from the start by using their current salary as baseline?


lets assume OP walks the walk.

Like someone said, if they are hungry, eventually they will eat, if they are full, whatever food you put on the table, they will say not good taste. Let them learn it thru the hard way.

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Added on July 20, 2011, 5:59 pmHallo, that is HR's job and if they dont do that, they might be out of job....

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Jul 20 2011, 05:59 PM

1. OP has held his stand for 6 months. if he lets go, all is for vain. the evil Underpaying Employers will win once again.

2. HR job is to make bonus and increment calculations from simple math into complex number theory. Paying candidates market rate / what they are worth, is not HR's job.