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Tigerr
post Jul 20 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Jul 20 2011, 04:51 PM)
this is a do-u-agree-with-me / what-would-you-do-if-you-were-me thread.

I been unemployed for almost half a year because of what i done, rejecting all the call that asking for current and expected salary.
There is not a single call that don't ask for my salary info. This has been making my parent and me very angry and frustrated. sad.gif

so any way to get job from company that don't ask for salary info? smile.gif
P/S: 2 years IT industry working experience.
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If the company who is keen to hire you, they want to find out whether your asking salary will be too high to be considered or not before they short list you to be called for interview. They probably have many other candidates to choose from and hence they dont want to waste their time and your time if you are asking for a unreasonable salary later on. I do not foresee what's wrong for giving them your salary info as with 2 years experience, it is still pretty much remain at standard market value unless you have special skills or qualification or you applying some unusual post. Else, they just want to double check to save you time and their time.
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(imyourlimbeh @ Jul 20 2011, 04:54 PM)
I dont think so. All company will ask for your last drawn salary, why you want to hide your salary from your employer?
How about you think like that, will you accept a job without knowing the salary to be offered?
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Probably TS wants to go for interview first before negotiating the salary. Like me, i dont need to ask the salary and i will go for interview to find out the job first, if i like the job, then, i will take up the job if the salary offer is acceptable for me. If not acceptable, i will just decline the job offered, and if they really want me after interviewed me and because i fit in very well to their post, they will call you and re-negotiate with you. At least i did this many years ago and rejected them 2 times and the 3rd time they calling me and offering the salary scale near to the top scale for my position at that time. Unless you are out of job, else you wont have such bargaining power, or you have lots of $$$ to back u up while you are still unemployed. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Jul 20 2011, 05:10 PM)
I want to a company that offer me the salary based on my technical/soft skills and my presentation during the F2F interview.
most of the call/email i received required me to write down the salary first before the company will proceed to interview me.
the thing is most company will offer you salary based on your last drawn salary + XX% which is true 90% of the company I interviewed. I still have money left for a few months.
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If you dont state your salary, and they decide to hire you, what if they offer you the salary that lower than your last drawn salary since you did not indicate to them. Will you accept that or you start to tell them you are drawing much more than that in your last employment? Will you?

What if you are now working in the HR department and you are doing the hiring job, what would you do if there are some people who apply the job and never stated their present salary and expected salary. Imagine you have 100 applicants and you need to hire one or two. Who will you call for interview? Remember, for junior staffs, almost everyone out there are same. If i pick who to come to interview, if got attached with a photo and if "leng lui", sure will get a call for interview.... drool.gif
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Jul 20 2011, 05:23 PM)
you are correct that company dun wan waste time,but they already put out the salary range.
there are company that advertised their salary range, since they put out their salary range. I gave my salary expectation at the lowest range.They still ask for my last drawn salary. sweat.gif
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Many are just junior HR staffs follow company SOP to do things lar. Actually, i can teach you a trick, you can bluff brows.gif them your salary mah if you worry....later if they find out, say may be mistake lor.....by then, you have achieve your aim for going to F2F interview and do your presentation liao lor....happy ending???? laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(TommyTan @ Jul 20 2011, 05:33 PM)
my friend.

if you took any job that came along 6 months ago, you'd at least have 6 months of gaji and epf.

but since you chose to hold your stand on not giving out salary info, and since you can afford it, i suggest you make this an example case study of how one can get a good job without having to divulge p&c info in the malaysian job market.

who knows, your case might be inspiration to many candidates to stop giving out their salary info, and no longer be underpaid.

in the candidate's circle, you will be legend.
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Like someone said, if they are hungry, eventually they will eat, if they are full, whatever food you put on the table, they will say not good taste. Let them learn it thru the hard way. hmm.gif


Added on July 20, 2011, 5:59 pm
QUOTE(TommyTan @ Jul 20 2011, 05:33 PM)
my friend.

if you took any job that came along 6 months ago, you'd at least have 6 months of gaji and epf.

but since you chose to hold your stand on not giving out salary info, and since you can afford it, i suggest you make this an example case study of how one can get a good job without having to divulge p&c info in the malaysian job market.

who knows, your case might be inspiration to many candidates to stop giving out their salary info, and no longer be underpaid.

in the candidate's circle, you will be legend.
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Hallo, that is HR's job and if they dont do that, they might be out of job.... tongue.gif

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post Jul 21 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(say_it @ Jul 21 2011, 11:54 AM)
Not reveal your last draw salary and expected salary is only apply when you have a decent job on hand, you're not desperate to get a job and especially in IT, your technical skill MUST be above average.

With only 2 years experience in IT, I don't see the bargain power here.
When we go over the technical test, if the candidate able to provide an outstanding result (even correct the mistake in the test sheet), we will not take him/her if our budget is lower than what his/her skill worth. If the position is critical, we will ask management for exception and provide better salary just to keep him/her and avoid the candidate job hop after certain months (finding a good candidate is hard, the cost of hiring and the time for the new candidate to pick up is expensive).
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