Tommy,you might able to consider this candidate or guide him/her,I am believe you are from IT too.

But one thing is for sure lah. Once the employer knows that you are jobless for 6 months, they know you have no leverage.

actually i dun get why need to get angry, and i dun get why your parent need to get angry

I would be more interested to see what some forumers who are against providing current salary have to say.

To TS and other readers,

During F2F interview, many people here will say: Fork, Fart, Pork, my current salary/package is P&C, cr@p, sheet, MYOB, already written in resume, etc.

To me, it is a test to field these questions:
(1) What is your current salary ?
(2) What is your expected salary ?

Then I will watch closely (Mr. Bean eyes) on the candidate facial expression, body language, muscle twitch, smile/fake smile, etc.

Whatever numbers you give me is fine with me. Based on my own unknown judgement, the candidate will either pass/fail this interview, if he/she/he-she manages to reach until here with both parties still interested.

I have candidates who request RM100 higher only, and also some few k higher. There is nothing wrong to me, but based on the interview, resume skills and experience, the numbers may be reasonable/unreasonable to me.

This is risky in a certain way. If I found out you make the mistake (whether genuinely or not), this reduce your chance of success. I want someone who is careful and not make mistake, although to err is human.

HR is very free. Normally if the OL is stuck in HR for >3 working days, I'll go and ask them to issue immediate, otherwise I'll raise to management. Two result:
(1) OL is ready before end of day
(2) OL is not out, and one reason as per above.

If #2, then I'll raise to management to fight for it to ignore HR delaying it. So far management sides with me for all cases presented and give whatever number I want (no budget). But in due course, I need to make the candidate to deliver results for me. No such thing as lunch with free dessert.

No. Most (not all) current graduates (should it be categorize as Gen X or Y ? ) have their family to fall back upon. They can choose not to work and stay home for long periods of time.

When you are jobless, your current salary is RM0.

If all HRs think like you all, how good it will be!!


Halo boi boi, do you want to interview me? Your company got vacancies? You really can speak louder than the HR?? Good Good!

when you are jobless, your current experience is zero.

why make a fuss out of this? Simple, put a salary that you think u deserve and simply say its negotiable.

the fuss is the interviewer can ask anything , including when the candidate loss her virginity, why the heck she not working for so long, recovering from abortion or wat?

but cannot ask the past salary.

the parent get angry, she get angry.

You don't have bargaining power given that you have only 2 years of work experience. To be honest, asking candidates for their expected salaries is how the industry works in Malaysia. Back in the U.S., they don't ask for your expected salary. They give you the offer based on your experience and your performance during the interview. It's just different culture.

because we have scumbags faking their previous salary numbers,
no skills but wanna ask high salary numbers,
expects employers to pay high just because they've been doing their routine job for X years...bla bla bla

Let's face it, this IS Malaysia.

It is a collateral. I know my boss would like to do e.g. project A and B. Therefore I took the opportunity to discuss and asked me to hire candidates to fill up the positions.

I hire candidates at higher budget than usual, but it is still cheaper than hiring in US, Europe, ANZ, etc. I tell my boss that I'll deliver project A and B for him/her. The collateral is boss must help me get it approved from top/senior management (CEO/CFO), i.e. over rule local/regional HR, finance and whoever/whatever that stands in the way.

Once hired, I'm already knee-deep in water, as I need to deliver the projects. This is where the candidates will have to prove him/herself to me, otherwise Keluar sign. -> Life will not be easy for candidates here during the project period.

If I deliver, boss can brag in front of top management / BoD. He'll get the fame + rewards. He gets promoted/increment/bonus. So far, in all the companies and bosses I work for, they will support my chain down the line. I get the reward effects as well, and from there, again I will fight for the monetary rewards for those under me.

If I can't deliver, keluar sign for me It's a bigger risk for me to take, than the risk for the candidates under me. So far not happen yet.

The point is, slightly diverging from topic, the manager should be bold enough to stand up for his/her own department.

I wish you are my boss. Any vacancy?

Not reveal your last draw salary and expected salary is only apply when you have a decent job on hand, you're not desperate to get a job and especially in IT, your technical skill MUST be above average.

With only 2 years experience in IT, I don't see the bargain power here.
When we go over the technical test, if the candidate able to provide an outstanding result (even correct the mistake in the test sheet), we will not take him/her if our budget is lower than what his/her skill worth. If the position is critical, we will ask management for exception and provide better salary just to keep him/her and avoid the candidate job hop after certain months (finding a good candidate is hard, the cost of hiring and the time for the new candidate to pick up is expensive).

correct correct correct....

Aside from not revealing your last drawn. How about commission and allowances?

How about budget handling? Is it advisable to state the amount that one handles since every company and job position differs from one another.

Should we reveal this as a reference?

Thanks.

I'll always ask the interviewer for this position budget. They'll review to you the range

Thanks knwong for the answer. However the question in mind is when the interviewer ask of my previous company's budget I'm handling, should I reveal it or remain P&C? How about my previous company allowance and commission that I gain, should that be reveal during my interview.

i don't understand why it's so hard for you to reveal the salary and stuff. It's not like they will tell everyone about it. If the salary is ok, take it. You have been unemployed for 6 months... If you still want to merajuk and stuff, please continue. Seriously youngsters nowadays are too pampered...

p/s: i'm from gen y