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post Aug 2 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 1 2011, 09:04 PM)
then D700 during launch is how much XD
wan set target for my piggy bank  tongue.gif
Hmmm... Last time you ask, I already mention.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 1 2011, 11:04 PM)
Trend now is big head pics according to my freelance friends dry.gif..

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I might want to try this at 14mm. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 2 2011, 07:30 PM)
As for alternate reason, my mom tell me, if wan buy straight away get a good one sweat.gif.
That's a good advise ! Hope you don't get poisoned and straight away buy a D3s. laugh.gif
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post Aug 3 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 2 2011, 09:25 PM)
D3x la  whistling.gif
If you want fastest FPS, best noise performer, do you buy a D3X? whistling.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 2 2011, 09:25 PM)
wait KLIMS sure will DRAG YOU TO PHOTOGRAPHY.  brows.gif
Errr, base on KLIMS alone, I think last year standard jatuh already.

QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 2 2011, 09:48 PM)
The Bangkok one more nice
or was it... Taiwan....  hmm.gif
Bangkok. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 2 2011, 11:51 PM)
Nikon Rumors also has source saying D3s and D700 replacement to be announced on 24th August... and... and... made in Malaysia? sad.gif

Sauce: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/02/august-2...uccessors.aspx/
Made here? Oh no. icon_question.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 3 2011, 12:32 AM)
It still ships back to Japan for QC (hopefully) and packaging before distributing to other countries. Good example, Inter processor. Unless factory sneak-out-items la... that also if Nikon doing R&D in Malaysia which I doubt.
Electronics is different. Everybody can do. whistling.gif With the DSLR, there are still a lot of mechanical parts involved. That is what I'm more worried.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Aug 3 2011, 01:55 AM)
made in thailand, better?  laugh.gif
At least they have much more experience than us. They started producing low end DSLRs for Nikon 6 years ago.

QUOTE(gnome @ Aug 3 2011, 03:38 AM)
I dont see what's all the fuss about made in what country, its the QC that counts.
We are all too familiar that QC here and QC in Japan are two different things no matter what they say. We are talking about mechanical shutter assembly. Not sensors which I'm confident we should be fine.

QUOTE(four_add @ Aug 3 2011, 07:50 AM)
EDIT : also, price for SB900 dropped to RM1400..
Where is this? shocking.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 3 2011, 09:17 AM)
Any chances of seeing refreshed model or replacement for SB-900? What do you guys think?
The SB-800 has a lifespan of 5 years before SB-900 replaced it in 2008. The SB-900 still has some life in it.

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post Aug 3 2011, 05:00 PM

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Good question. It depends... Shooting a black or dark coloured object or background, the camera metering is usually fooled and will blow the exposure. So naturally you'd want to use negative EV compensation to bias the camera body metering.

Likewise, if you're shooting white / bright object or background like snow, the metering would be fooled and would underexpose. So you should use positive EV compensation to bias the camera body metering.

Flash or no flash, just use the rules above.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 3 2011, 05:42 PM)
Could we put it this way, to make things simpler for both the camera + flash and the photog, set the metering to Matrix Metering and that should be able to pull out most of it?
Yes you can. But like I mention if the camera is faced with those types of scenes, the camera's meter will be tricked. Perhaps if you shoot RAW, you still have a lot of room to repair exposure errors.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 3 2011, 05:42 PM)
Particularly in events where movements are quick where you even have sufficient time to lock your focus therefore you'll need to act fast too. In this kind of situation, how would you configure your camera and flash?

I would like to get clarification, guidance and tips on this too, when and how we should adjust the Exposure Compensation (+/- EV).
The buttons are there. Practice and practice and it becomes 2nd nature to you. You don't need to lift your eyes off the viewfinder and you can make EV changes. I leave flash as it is and just configure the camera.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 3 2011, 05:42 PM)
Some senior actually advised me not to always review on the photos after snapping, look unprofessional sweat.gif
I will only quickly glance to see if the exposure is correct. To check if focus is spot on or not, I usually do it at home. I trust the lens and camera to get focus correct.

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post Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 3 2011, 07:57 PM)
I would like to share mine, i decided to get d7000 + kit + 35mm f1.8g, reason why i get that prime is because i know i'm going to shoot a lot of portrait shot + the bokehness, and of course some family photos or friends, and i know most of the place i will be are low lights, the f1.8 will helps a lot.
Fair enough. Hopefully you realise that owning the 35mm f/1.8 (or any good lens for that matter) does not do magic and automatically get you better pictures. You will be faced with different problems which is mostly user related.

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Aug 3 2011, 09:19 PM)
see the review shared by hidden, the G is way better than the D version..

the 50mm lens would be a 75mm lens due to the fact its an fx lens and you're having a dx body!
On a side note, it does not matter if it's FX or DX lens. Once mounted on a DX body, the 50mm FX lens gets a 75mm FOV.

A 35mm f/1.8 DX lens gets an equivalent of 52.5mm for FOV.

QUOTE(zizheng @ Aug 3 2011, 10:24 PM)
hello boys and girls. i'm rather new to cameras. but somehow i've spotted the coolpix p300. read some reviews and saw some videos. looks rather good and the disadvantages which comes with the camera is acceptable to me. any suggestions/recommendations/thoughts on P300? please do share. would also like to know if anyone has got one and whats the best bargain in KL? thanks!
Thom Hogan just posted a mini review of it. Have a read.

http://bythom.com/nikon-p300-review.htm

QUOTE(chianping @ Aug 3 2011, 10:50 PM)
i have being using kit lens for the past year. wanna try to take some potrait with bigger aperture. Recently seen too many impressive bokeh pic so wanna try it out .Some might think it is a waste of money as it might be the photographer skill and not the lens or equip.
Yes, skill + equipment goes hand in hand.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:24 AM)
Thanks. I wonder what's causing the AF accuracy, possibly not enough contrast? It's on wide angle at f/5.6 shooting group, sometimes get these kind of "muddy" shot, not sure where it locks on, re-take again might be able to get it right. If happen at longer focal length on smaller subject, I suppose it's higher chance of back focusing? The main problem is it's not really visible in the viewfinder... what about FX viewfinder?  tongue.gif
Muddy? In the centre part or at the side of the image? If you look at other objects in the image, do you get them sharp or the whole image is muddy? What wide angle lens is this?

f/5.6 on wide angle should dispel most problems with misfocus as it gives quite a huge DoF.
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QUOTE(Ahjosh @ Aug 5 2011, 09:13 PM)
GUYS NEED UR HELP..SHOULD I CHG MY NEW D7000 BODY TO D300S??PLS GIVE SOME ADVISE...THANKS!
If you already got the D7000, then stick with it lor. Selling it would wasteful since you'll be at a lost.

If this was posted before you bought either Nikon body, you need to know what type of shooting you are interested or is your priority. The D300s has better AF focusing performance and better controls and ergonomics. I would think much like why you got a 1Ds Mk II in the first place.

In general, the D7000 is better but when it comes to AF and position / layout of controls, the D300s is better especially for sports or for birding. If you're not into sports photography, the D7000 is fine.

QUOTE(Ahjosh @ Aug 5 2011, 10:36 PM)
hmmm.....gotta think 1st....
Besides, the 24-70 is a little long on a 1.5x DX body. It's more suited for FX body.

QUOTE(v26davk @ Aug 5 2011, 11:30 PM)
guys what you think of this http://www.mudah.my/vi/10889774.htm
Depends on your budget. The D7000 + kit lens is quite cheap. Shop around.

QUOTE(v26davk @ Aug 5 2011, 11:30 PM)
I was planning to get a d7000...but there seems ot be alot of cases with the oil spots...any word on this??


Added on August 5, 2011, 11:31 pmDid Nikon find a cure for this... :S
Not too sure but I believe Nikon will honour the warranty if you have any problem.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:45 PM)
I finally had a hands on with the D7000 at PC Expo
It was quite heavy but it feels really solid compared to D3100
Congrats. How much? With kit lens?

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 6 2011, 12:20 AM)
Just bought 2nd SB-900 today at RM1350? Since buying quite some stuff, managed to get further RM50 discount on the flashgun tongue.gif
Wah... You're on the roll. rclxms.gif Good price. Where did you get it? Your favourite Foto Selangor?

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 6 2011, 12:20 AM)
Weight and size can be very subjective, I stills find the D7000 small and light smile.gif
I agree. For me, the D700 is about right since I'm used to a D2 body.
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QUOTE(iloveOov @ Aug 6 2011, 10:17 PM)
1st time shooting in hotel~

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I like it.

QUOTE(smokey @ Aug 6 2011, 10:25 PM)
u have
nikon 12-24
nikon 10-24
sigma 10-20
tamron 10-24 (many review says that this lens is very soft)

u can take tokina 11-16 and use manual focus too as this lens do not have built in motor...
You forgot the mother of all wide angles... AF-S 14-24mm f/2.8.

There's also the AF-S 16-35mm f/4 VR.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 6 2011, 10:44 PM)
A review said
"The D7000's video is awful for general family use. It can't focus worth a darn, and you'll hear the lens painfully trying to focus in your audio."
True?
I believe using an external mic would help solve the audio problem.

Anyway, you buy a D7000 for video? If you're thinking more into video, perhaps you should be looking at the Canon instead.
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Aug 8 2011, 12:34 AM)
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Much better.
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QUOTE(ResQ @ Aug 8 2011, 07:31 AM)
anyone here using d7000 with sigma 1020 f3.5? are u have back focus problem? i have tried 3unit d7000 with my frens all have the back focus problem, before this im using d90, sometimes have the back focus problem, izzit the lens or the body d7000?
Can you show examples? What subject are you trying to capture? Portraiture?

Perhaps you're experiencing this problem on a wide angle lens.

https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/ans...etail/a_id/4585

Or perhaps the lens itself is soft. I read that the older Sigma 10-20mm f/4 - 5.6 is much better.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 8 2011, 12:13 PM)
Are you sure, how did you test?

It may focus on the background if you did not focus "correctly".
Yes, wide angles can be tricky as per the article I posted above.
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QUOTE(SeanLee85 @ Aug 8 2011, 05:27 PM)
Guys, Is it Fx's DOF greater than Dx's DOF if using same lens(Fx)?
It's the other way around. DX bodies have greater DoF than FX.

You can check it for yourself;

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

For landscape or macro, it is actually better to use a DX body.
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QUOTE(SeanLee85 @ Aug 8 2011, 07:58 PM)
Let say both Fx and Dx body focos at 10feet subject at f1.8 using FX 50mm lens. Fx will have 1.29ft DOF and Dx will have 0.86ft DOF, that Fx will had greater DOF in this case? Correct me if i wrong thanks!
What you did is correct. But remember that 50mm on FX body is 33.3mm on DX. Plug in the 33mm focal length and f/1.8 for DX body at 10 feet subject distance and you will get total DoF 1.99 feet instead of 1.29 feet for FX.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 9 2011, 11:11 AM)
OK, let's get this back on track.

Can we start with how to get accurate skin tone? Some of my photos taken in an event recently turned out to be yellowish like kena sunset sun sad.gif

I tried to use spot metering, but then it'll overblown the photo. Any guide and tips on this?
I assume you're using flash under tungsten lighting?

Use tungsten gel (or any type of gel to match ambient lighting) and set to tungsten WB on the camera. Adjust accordingly in RAW.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 9 2011, 12:55 PM)
ghost month is near, if you shoot orange/ yellow skin girl and got result in white skin... habis lah  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 9 2011, 02:02 PM)
Flash gel or Kelvin WB manual adjust. Flash gel should be easier, at least in my opinion. Kelvin WB takes quite some time to learn.
You obviously have not encountered problems with matching the flash WB with the ambient WB or p[robably do not realise that is a problem in the first place. If you do not correct the WB light from your flash to match the ambient lighting, you will get different colour lighting from the ambient and from your flash in your pics. Correcting WB on the subject in PP (as a result of light source from the flash) will produce horrible outcome on the background and vice versa.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
Bro, apala? Using gel, u also need knowledge on how kelvin WB works. On the field, custom WB is the easiest ler. Furthermore, what if he wasn't usig any flash?
If vearn27 wasn't using flash, doing custom WB would be the best. But if you use the default flash in tungsten ambient lighting, you would have problems getting correct WB in your pics if your flash is not WB corrected.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
ECS aka vearn, using autoWB or wrong WB presets will cause what u mentioned there. Easiest way is shoot AWB in RAW and post process later to your liking if the lighting condition changes very rapidly.
Like I mentioned in my reply above, even PP in RAW would give horrible "corrected" WB in PP if the flash WB is different from the ambient WB. Your method is correct if vearn27 does not shoot with flash.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
To learn how to custom WB in a fairly constant lighted room, it's pretty simple. Bring along a White piece of paper or tissue for your WB calibration. There, perfect WB in an instant!
Not possible if you use flash that is not WB corrected.

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Aug 9 2011, 06:35 PM)
So morale of the story is learn to use the gel packs given by Nikon in the SB800 & SB900s..... does the SB700 have the color correction gels included?? I was testing the SB900 color correction gels at an event recently and found that even with the gels and settings, a lil tweak is still needed to get the WB to look 'right'  rclxub.gif
You can never get exactly the correct WB. Approximation close to correct is very good enough already.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 9 2011, 09:59 PM)
jchue73, yeah I was suggesting based on my assumption that a flash wasn't used. Hence, my suggestion of using custom WB.

Even if a flash was used and wasn't color corrected, in a shoot-and-submit event, the subject's WB is of priority (the skin tone in this case). The background will have to be in the warm state as it is so as long the subject is good.
What I suggested was not the be-all-end-all solutuion. It gives your subject and background closer WB so that any WB fine tuning in PP can produce better results.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 9 2011, 10:31 PM)
Need more practice with this WB thingy. I'm still far from achieving even the near good result of WB settings. I totally have not much understanding in tuning my WB except placing the gel on my flash.

The situation I was in... it started shooting indoor from evening with a lot of windows allowing lights from outside. Then when it reaches night, yellowish and white lights all around the places and some dim area. Ceiling and wall, some area with and some area without to bounce the flash. Really a tough situation to handle with my skill level at the moment sweat.gif

Yumcha surely no problem, need more guidance and tips from the guru biggrin.gif
There are a few ways;

1. Shoot without flash with a very good high ISO camera like a D700/D3/D3s.
2. Shoot with the flash only acting as fill light and not as the main light.
3. Use something like the Xrite Colour Checker Passport (http://xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=1257). No experience with that but I suspect that it will not work if you have two different sources of light with different WB.

I still use method 2 with a corresponding colour gel which helps to get the ambient and flash WB to be as close as possible but if there are differences, the light source from the flash would not be dominating the subject lighting. Just enough to give highlight and lift shadows.

QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 9 2011, 10:37 PM)
Welcome to the yellow camp  laugh.gif
It's more like welcome to the red underwear camp. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ Aug 10 2011, 01:15 AM)
Dayummm....been using this 35mm F2D for few hours now and starting to fell in love with it cry.gif  laugh.gif

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Taken wide open @ 3200 ISO. Just love the FOV compared to 50mm biggrin.gif
On a DX body, the 35mm is always a more preferred focal length than the 50mm.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 10 2011, 09:34 AM)
Thanks for sharing many useful information about WB, Flash and Color Filter/Gel. Much to learn I have. I do notice what you mentioned about changing the WB in PP resulting/affecting the ambient or background; Adjustment later can't be perfect only can adjust to "acceptable" level. Worst, if there're green tint here and there, then pink tint the other area, your one person is very yellow and another is white, or something like that, fixing in PP is not easy.
Yes, using the colour gels would not guarantee perfect results but it helps close the WB gap between the ambient and flash so that any WB fine tuning in PP can achieve better results.

QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Aug 10 2011, 09:49 AM)
tried using WB cap? custom white balance works best in tricky lighting situation.
Don't think that works when flash is used though...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 10 2011, 06:40 PM)
because nikon got research & development fees.
sigma and tamron just rip-off & duplicate.
laugh.gif Not so bad lah. Sigma does their own R&D too. There are no equivalent Canon or Nikon lenses that Sigma produces;

200-500mm f/2.8
user posted image

300-800mm f/5.6
user posted image

120-300mm f/2.8
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 10 2011, 10:14 PM)
105-200mm
Btw,you use which brand?
What lens is that 105-200mm?

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 10 2011, 11:06 PM)
well, pretty much my entire signature here at the bottom is dedicated to which system i use tongue.gif lol
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 11 2011, 12:15 AM)
you say that the Nikon 50mm f/1.2 Nikkor AiS Manual Focus Lens is NOT expensive... but you DO notice that its a manual focus lens right? no electronics gizmos gimbals thingamajig in there... and yet it costs 1.8k
Before you jump the gun and look down on manual focus lens, do note that these lenses are one of a kind and if you take the 58mm f/1.2 Noct Ais manual focus for instance, the cheapest one goes for about USD 3k.

Speaking of manual focus lenses, I was actually stunned and poisoned by how beautifully the Zeiss ZF.2 Distagon 35mm f/1.4 rendered images on the D700. If it was presented to me when I was thinking about the Nikon AF-S 35mm f/1.4, I would have been very tempted to go with the Zeiss. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 11 2011, 06:26 PM)
Reviews of SB-700; Seems the colour filter provided when fitted on the Flash, it will comunicate with the camera so the camera set the correct WB. Does this feature available for SB-900?
I did notice the Flash able to detect what you "install" into it, e.g. diffuser, color filter; What about SB-900?  or is this a total new feature?
Yes, SB-700 and SB-900 automatically detects WB when you use the coloured gels.

But no harm to manually specify the WB. Old habit coming from SB-800.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 12 2011, 12:15 AM)
Btw, using this technique, I tested using these coloured filter before, didn't adjust WB back then, so suppose it already auto adjust for me; The output result turns out like the picture was taken in white lights, when the ambience or place is diferent. So, the output doesn't match the current ambience/feel.
Example: In dinner hall, with yellow lights around, it's more natural for the output to have more warm, but if use the colour filter, the picture (in LCD) turns out different from the current ambience? Thus I remove the colour and shoot without it.
Any ideas?
Like I mentioned, the gel does not give exact WB during shoot. It makes the WB on the subject and the surroundings WB as close as possible. After that, you can tweak the WB in PP to give it more yellowish etc accordingly to your liking.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 12 2011, 04:27 PM)
btw, just got back from nikon pj, they did a very fast job less than a day.
my repair details says - replaced mirror driving unit, togo pcb, firmware updated and ccd cleaning.
no charges at all.
Great that Nikon took care of your problem. rclxms.gif

You never updated your firmware?

QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM)
I am getting 300mm F2.8, don't know which version I should get doh.gif
Whoa... notworthy.gif Get the latest and greatest version.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:18 PM)
My symptom was, lets say I focus on the eye and the hand is in front, you see the hand is sharp. For focus chart or lets say words, it focus on the front.
That's front focus. Not Ford Focus.

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