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samwongjyhhorng
post Jul 11 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Jul 11 2011, 10:17 PM)
I see.
I am considering waja last time before buying persona, then my gf said waja too square.  sweat.gif
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i prefer the waja interior and rear seat not straight as persona lo..but outlook was rclxub.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jul 11 2011, 10:14 PM)
still got ppl go for it nowadays... why har?


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:16 pm

go for exhaust 1st... icon_rolleyes.gif +1
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do minor mods 1st...
like air filter n spark plugs...
TSxandras
post Jul 11 2011, 10:20 PM

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owenteoh
post Jul 11 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:17 PM)
Full exhaust first la of cos if u got the budget..
If u realise a lot of Indians love Perdana & Waja. Waja especially. The next time a Waja (especially green or light blue) drive up next to u, check to see whether the driver is an indian or not laugh.gif
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But i m looking for better FC at similar power tat i m having now.
Does yr full exhaust estimate include installation of the items?
K.Lee
post Jul 11 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:20 PM)
Nosebleed.. drool.gif
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OMG.... drool.gif i'm in heaven drool.gif
TSxandras
post Jul 11 2011, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:24 PM)
But i m looking for better FC at similar power tat i m having now.
Does yr full exhaust estimate include installation of the items?
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Better FC at similar power? rclxub.gif The main reason u mod ur exhaust system is to get more power out of it.. And of course, better FC.. U're the only 1 that I know don't want the power rclxub.gif


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:27 pm
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jul 11 2011, 10:25 PM)
OMG.... drool.gif i'm in heaven drool.gif
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Hu Ge Clea Va Ge... brows.gif

This post has been edited by xandras: Jul 11 2011, 10:27 PM
owenteoh
post Jul 11 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:26 PM)
Better FC at similar power? rclxub.gif The main reason u mod ur exhaust system is to get more power out of it.. And of course, better FC.. U're the only 1 that I know don't want the power rclxub.gif


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:27 pm
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i mean comparison with using a LCP and full exhaust change. Now looking for better deal for the buck laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:30 PM)
i mean comparison with using a LCP and full exhaust change. Now looking for better deal for the buck laugh.gif
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If FC is ur priority, go for LCP. If a balance of power & FC is ur priority, exhaust. But do remember that the effect of LCP increases as u add other mods to your car...
ZenGTMM
post Jul 11 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jul 11 2011, 08:40 PM)
You can try go to the castrol Signboard shop near ioi boulevard next to perodua shop there... i got mine for rm95 new stock get free air freshener.
Brag King arr?
lets BLUR again wei... at least not so sien like COD..haha.. coz too little kaki kot... any Zapdo's always play belakang mari
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Haiz.. COD nicer to play mah.. One by one i tube u off.. hehe.. Shiok habis..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 11 2011, 09:00 PM)
my fren wira 1.5 install high cam..d car langsung no power lo..maybe due to he doesnt install d adjustable cam pulley
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He never put in piggyback mah.. The ori Wira 1.5 barely have any electronics.. Then with high cam, the extra airflow is not compensated by extra fuel.. how to gain the power.. Somemore the stock fuel injectors are very small and the fuel rail might choke to deliver the fuel.. He needs a piggyback (E-manage blue will do), FPR, bigger injectors, bigger fuel rail and better spark plugs cos u are going to run a bit more leaner.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 11 2011, 09:00 PM)
my one after modify onli hit 180 at lekas lo


Added on July 11, 2011, 9:02 pm

yalo,when i cucuk u,u oso tapau me lo. zeng,interested to exchange the muffler from me brows.gif since u like bassy sound lo
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hehe.. let me hear ur muffler sound again..

QUOTE(vccy @ Jul 11 2011, 10:05 PM)
Open-pod sure good in pickup and overtake others. I once installed before but now i plug out and change to drop in stainless steel air filter. Open pod not so good for auto if you don mind the fuel  smile.gif , so when i press fuel peddle and my gear will auto shift and drag my car for quite sometime when using open-pod.

You can feel the power but u need to scarified your petrol. For manual you can control your speed. So mostly ppl install open-pod in manual car. the air sucking sound produce by open pod is so damn good.  wub.gif i still miss it.  tongue.gif

I do install redline LCP which sam sold to me. After install can feel the car pickup more easier. Plan to go for exhaust setup soon. No matter what LCP you install, as long is lighter than the ori one will improve your car pickup. Seriously i compare the ori with the redline crank pulley before in both hands. Big diff  blink.gif
Bro, you told me not to drive fast. but you plan to tapao others.  sweat.gif
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Yeah.. and redline is 900grams.. mythelogy 600grams.. u can gain even more pickup and low end power.

QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:06 PM)
Maybe he think his car small enough la can be considered pedestrian..
No adjustable cam pulley.
Different. Go sit in B/M line & feel the difference. I personally like Waja's dashboard design. Don't know why sweat.gif
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the difference is the leather lah.. The leather makes it feels more expensive.. I sit in Sam's car and compared it to my car b4.

QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:10 PM)
It actually does matter. The ratio is 2.7WHP to every 1 lb. u can remove from the crank. 2.2 lb = 1KG. Standard CP = 1.9KGs. Optimum LCP will be 1/3 of the original crank pulley weight. Any lighter than that there'll be less to no gains, and uphill climb will suffer.
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the 2.7whp per pound is just claims lah.. On real world test the mythelogy increased 2.5whp by reducing 1.3kg of weight.. So its almost 2whp for every KG reduced.

QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:20 PM)
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:31 PM)
If FC is ur priority, go for LCP. If a balance of power & FC is ur priority, exhaust. But do remember that the effect of LCP increases as u add other mods to your car...
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ohhhhhh, so if i mod LCP now and mod my exhaust later on...it would be a whopper...
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:34 PM)
ohhhhhh, so if i mod LCP now and mod my exhaust later on...it would be a whopper...
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Actually putting in LCP do increase power to the wheels as well as improve FC.. Exhaust increases power from the engine at the same or slightly higher FC..
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 11 2011, 10:33 PM)
Haiz.. COD nicer to play mah.. One by one i tube u off.. hehe.. Shiok habis..
He never put in piggyback mah.. The ori Wira 1.5 barely have any electronics.. Then with high cam, the extra airflow is not compensated by extra fuel.. how to gain the power.. Somemore the stock fuel injectors are very small and the fuel rail might choke to deliver the fuel.. He needs a piggyback (E-manage blue will do), FPR, bigger injectors, bigger fuel rail and better spark plugs cos u are going to run a bit more leaner.
hehe.. let me hear ur muffler sound again..
Yeah.. and redline is 900grams.. mythelogy 600grams.. u can gain even more pickup and low end power.
the difference is the leather lah.. The leather makes it feels more expensive.. I sit in Sam's car and compared it to my car b4.
the 2.7whp per pound is just claims lah.. On real world test the mythelogy increased 2.5whp by reducing 1.3kg of weight.. So its almost 2whp for every KG reduced.
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Yes, but that depends on the mods that's in ur car.. The more mods u have, the higher ur gains.. and mythelogy's tests are all based on NA cars that have light mods but not high cams..
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:17 PM)
Full exhaust first la of cos if u got the budget..
If u realise a lot of Indians love Perdana & Waja. Waja especially. The next time a Waja (especially green or light blue) drive up next to u, check to see whether the driver is an indian or not laugh.gif
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agreed with u!


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:26 PM)
Better FC at similar power? rclxub.gif The main reason u mod ur exhaust system is to get more power out of it.. And of course, better FC.. U're the only 1 that I know don't want the power rclxub.gif


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:27 pm
Hu Ge Clea Va Ge... brows.gif
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no free lunch in this real world lor... high power gain, sure FC high...

This post has been edited by jackyap84: Jul 11 2011, 10:37 PM
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:35 PM)
Yes, but that depends on the mods that's in ur car.. The more mods u have, the higher ur gains.. and mythelogy's tests are all based on NA cars that have light mods but not high cams..
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Yeah.. Totally stock Neo with only Mythelogy installed..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jul 11 2011, 10:36 PM)
agreed with u!


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:37 pm

no free lunch in this real world lor... high power gain, sure FC high...
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Nope.. got one.. Most of the power are lost due to the cars being more restrictive to have better emission control.. Changing exhaust removes the catcon.. which improves exhaust flow a lot.. Therefore increasing the flow of fresh air into the engine.
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 11 2011, 11:35 PM)
Actually putting in LCP do increase power to the wheels as well as improve FC.. Exhaust increases power from the engine at the same or slightly higher FC..
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woookay. So i m goin for d LCP thn. at least more bang for d buck. whn hav more money thn d exhaust will follow.
So for the LCP, wat brand and whr to install?
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:40 PM)
woookay. So i m goin for d LCP thn. at least more bang for d buck. whn hav more money thn d exhaust will follow.
So for the LCP, wat brand and whr to install?
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Now choosing the right brand is the main dilemma.. .haha.. Can install in any tire shops lah..
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 11 2011, 10:39 PM)
Yeah.. Totally stock Neo with only Mythelogy installed..
Nope.. got one.. Most of the power are lost due to the cars being more restrictive to have better emission control.. Changing exhaust removes the catcon.. which improves exhaust flow a lot.. Therefore increasing the flow of fresh air into the engine.
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but still... if u demand for instant power gain, sure require extra fuel to mix with it.


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 11 2011, 10:42 PM)
Now choosing the right brand is the main dilemma.. .haha.. Can install in any tire shops lah..
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any brand come out a proven set dedicated for PE?

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post Jul 11 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:40 PM)
woookay. So i m goin for d LCP thn. at least more bang for d buck. whn hav more money thn d exhaust will follow.
So for the LCP, wat brand and whr to install?
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U can choose between Mythelogy & Redline. Mythelogy at 630+ grams, Redline 900+ grams. If u're worried about all the bullshit that someone is saying about Mythelogy's LCP having the dampener may cause damage to the engine bla bla bla, go for maddriver's LCP. Same price, same weight, same material, minus the dampener.
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jul 11 2011, 10:42 PM)
but still... if u demand for instant power gain, sure require extra fuel to mix with it.


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any brand come out a proven set dedicated for PE?
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U either increase fuel or increase compression.. Compression can be increased by hi-comp pistons, or by hi-cam which increase air/fuel density in the chamber.
Every brand got a dedicated set for Campro.. Just that Mythelogy is expensive.. And works is too light.. But now works new LCP is 600grams.
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QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 11:40 PM)
woookay. So i m goin for d LCP thn. at least more bang for d buck. whn hav more money thn d exhaust will follow.
So for the LCP, wat brand and whr to install?
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Got 2 brands

redline 900grams RM2++

mythelogy 600grams Rm5++

the price is just a reference. Maybe can get cheaper. smile.gif

i am using Redline. I dono about others.

Installation can be done at any workshop.

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