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post Jul 10 2011, 01:47 AM, updated 15y ago

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LYN Official Proton Persona Owners Club and support thread V20!!

PPLYNC

Persona celebrating TWENTY threads of awesomeness!!

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!


TO ALL FELLOW PPLYNC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:

If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem.



So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response.

If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said.

You may:
1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise.
2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority.

Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine.

Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car.

This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself.

I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed.

Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum.

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Recommended SC

1)Serdang SC - http://worldcarcare.com.my/WorldCarCare.html
Reasons: Best customer service in all reviews, allows you to bring own lube.

2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place.
Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE),
Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 03-80269333
Tel2: 03-80269167
Fax: 03-80269155
HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube

3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.

4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)

Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)

1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. at genting klang n gombak - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol
2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753

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This post has been edited by xandras: Jul 25 2011, 11:36 PM
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post Jul 10 2011, 01:53 AM

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K.Lee still stuck at V19.. laugh.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jul 10 2011, 01:54 AM)
Belum kaya la... my 13inch too small la.. want do work also susah... then just now go see 15inch and above... ulalala... waiting for lion OS...
That will be my daily ride wei... I've been bitten by Serpent and no cure...159 and 159SW(to ship my kids), Mito, Guilletta, 4c and 8c also i buy.. also buy back my 146 and fully restore it!


Added on July 10, 2011, 1:55 am

Yala... Fark TM la... ever since Unifi introduced my 4mb same like 1mb
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laugh.gif Better than me lah.. Still using berukband... doh.gif

Me bitten by 159.. Love bite.. drool.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Jul 10 2011, 02:02 AM)
tell me about it. my stupid streamyx speed supposed to download at 130kbps onwards but now its downloading at 30kbps+ zzzz
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..at least u got 30kbps... Me 10kbps pun tarak..doh.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 01:49 PM

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I thought V20 is supposed to be a goal to be attained end of this year? blink.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:19 PM)
so u r using unifi now?wad area wor slower than streamyx?
mine works fine...
i tink mine is d new one...later check again
means goal reached before time!
so wan set new target? brows.gif
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What? V30 by end of the year? laugh.gif


Added on July 10, 2011, 2:21 pmHaiz... Sam also inactive & don wan do business already.. Either he's too carried away with his car mods, or really rich liao... doh.gif

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post Jul 10 2011, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:24 PM)
he larikan diri wif harmee goreng...
perhaps he busy lately ma... smile.gif
or busy modding car secretly! brows.gif
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Thats why I say.. He carried away with his modding d.. doh.gif Run away with my harmee vmad.gif

Eh so u service ur car liao?
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:30 PM)
tmr bro...appointment at 8am before work...
cz saturday d police dun let me pass...
one traffic police say can...ask me to tell d police in front of d proton SC there tat i wan service car...so drove back to tat road but they say cant let me in...waste my petrol...but good also la cz i hvnt reach 1k...around 900 like tat...but i wan to service before tat cz my work need around 180-200km drive..
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doh.gif Appointment before work? U sure u can make it in time?
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:34 PM)
dun worry...my work flexible...
i can reach d site at noon time after lunch also ok one...
normally reach there around 10-11am...sometimes 1pm after lunch...

btw need to change d air filter back to stock before let them service?
n also regarding d engine oil...hv to keep remind them dun pour all d 4L rite?
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Omg, did u check whether they've swapped a new one in for u when they replace ur engine block? doh.gif
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:39 PM)
dun worry...i swap back to d stock filter n let them towed tat time..i simpan d WORKS air filter n LCP at home... tongue.gif
so before taking to service change back to stock?
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Yep.. Just in case lah they kacau kacau swap out ur works.. lol
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(bryan_oel @ Jul 10 2011, 02:45 PM)
ai..damn bad luck..
my 1 month PE crash on friday...
very hurt me...
myvi hit my front right wheel side... pain....
what to do, damn bad luck..

now i am concern.. performance after repair n whether the proton warranty still valid???
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Wah what happened? Got pic? Warranty still valid.. But depends where u send ur car to repair, & whether they use ori stuffs or not.. Performance after repair? I don't think it makes any difference la.. Depends on the severity of the accident tho.
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post Jul 10 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 02:54 PM)
ok noted...so u all owes swap back stock?
wad bout those who installed LCP?
will they swap away d LCP?
i still hvnt install mine...plan to do it after 5k mileage
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No lah.. LCP is something rather permanent in the car.. They won't touch it..
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post Jul 10 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(luenywoon @ Jul 10 2011, 04:00 PM)
I am quite sure I have made up my mind to get the Persona M-Line 1.6 Manual.
Any owners here that can tell me how their experience was with the car??
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Manual is good. Powerful I must say. The auto lack a bit due to transmission lost..
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post Jul 10 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Jul 10 2011, 04:30 PM)
lol what kind of job u r working as?
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post Jul 10 2011, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 10 2011, 05:12 PM)
juz test drive the golf 1.4TSI..damn powerful car..and the tyre will spin when i rev to 6k rpm..and the interior very solid..but feel a bit lag during pick up time..but once hit around 3k rpm above,the power damn syiok lo..but i oso feel the brake too sensitive even press a bit onli..and oso went to naza showroom to look for the R35 since my uncle wanna buy it oso to replace his c200..and buy the golf oso..
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Lag = turbo lag.


QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 10 2011, 05:56 PM)
Haha.. True also.. The IAFM problem is common one loh.. XD
I have tried mixing Caltex and Esso together.. As we all know Caltex provide the best power above 3k rpm and engine smoothness and Esso gives good FC and good low end torque but high end power seems lacking and the engine not as smooth as Caltex. So after mixing, can feel a very slight drop in low end power, FC remains almost the same but top end power and engine smoothness improved a lot..
pics pics.. depends on the severity of the damage.. thats y we need pics..
Xandras is an undeclared gay rmb? His backside hurts every  morning cos of his roommate..
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post Jul 10 2011, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Jul 10 2011, 07:21 PM)
Ehh bro where did u test drive your PE?? 1 month back i asked the proton showroom ppl for testdrive they told me this car out for 1 year no more test drive only inspira is available for test drive now  doh.gif
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Where got such thing wan? They pushing sales for inspira la.. The jalan genting klang branch still offers test drive. Or else u can go to CoSE, I'm sure they'll let u drive it.
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post Jul 10 2011, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Jul 10 2011, 07:28 PM)
H-Line only auto. Their marketing skill damn good manual only M-Line if want auto need get H-line because of ABS or else auto sucks badly...


Added on July 10, 2011, 7:31 pm
means CoSE can test drive all of proton car?? or only those newer cars? Seriously other showroom all sucks badly.
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AFAIK U can test drive almost any Proton production cars there except for the anniversary edition cars & the Lotus R3 Neo.
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post Jul 10 2011, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Jul 10 2011, 07:36 PM)
Can test the car on their test track ?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Their test track are usually off limits to customers like us lah..

QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Jul 10 2011, 08:19 PM)
Mine is M-Line original fabric seat, but got think of purchase Add On leather seat cover b4, saw on Brothers, not cheap so just leave it....

if i not remember wrong, that time the price i saw is RM1200++
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RM1200 for wrap on leather seat cover? What a rip off man.. I know a guy in Selayang that can get ur seats wrapped in leather of ur choice (even Italian genuine bull leather also got) for RM 800-1500, depending on quality of leather u chose..

QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Jul 10 2011, 08:57 PM)
don't get b-line my friends its a rip off if u want to get b-line u better get saga FL full spec. Get M-Line for manual because that the only choice and H-Line for auto because of better handling with ABS & EBD but still its just and advice.
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No lah.. Some people prefer the PE mah.. B-line PE & Saga FL full spec, I'll still choose B-line PE manual.. More spacious, bigger boot & better interior quality.. Saga dashboard seriously feel a bit plasticky for me..

Oh, and not to mention (this I found out myself), that H-line PE's dashboard have a better touch/feel to it than M/B-line.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(saddient @ Jul 10 2011, 09:28 PM)
dang the engine light came out again.... 2 days ago got my car ntg happen then now the light came back again.... grrrrrrrr
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Go get it checked at SC lah.. The PDT can detect the error code & reason for it once plugged into the ECU..
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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jul 10 2011, 09:58 PM)
Damn fark wei... I wonder is my PE fuel tank problem or the pump problem..
I just had my car over pumped with fuel, and wasted almost 500ml of precious fuel... as usual leave the pump nozzle in auto mod then carry on with cleaning up my wind screen and back screen, mana tahu, fuel start splashing out of the tank...
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The nozzle problem lah.. The vacuum sensor in the nozzle is faulty, causing the pump not being able to stop in time.. Ur fuel tank or pump wont cause this to happen..
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post Jul 10 2011, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 10 2011, 10:03 PM)
isit? i rmbr some also said PE interior better than inspira in term of plastickiness?
now only i knw different line also d dashboard got different feel wor...
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Yeah. It's somewhat 'leathery' to be exact, while the M/B-line is more like rough but soft plastic. M/B-line dashboard have more gloss to it than H-lines. And even so, PE's B-line interior still much better than Inspira, especially the door panels.


Added on July 10, 2011, 10:06 pm
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jul 10 2011, 10:04 PM)
Then if you are at Setiawangsa Caltex avoid pump no.4 Techron95
for the time being
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laugh.gif I baru pump mine at my trusted Melawati Caltex.. flex.gif

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