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owenteoh
post Jul 10 2011, 07:50 PM

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hi Nievk8701,

I m sending in a complain for the Taman Mayang SC to the consumer association on a few accounts of their inappropriate work ethics. I think you should also send in a formal complain. Even if we can't get proton to do stg about it. Let's make it a living hell for them.
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:52 AM

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Yo Xan,

Pls add my customer review for Senaxis. I have already complain to i-care but i tink thr is no action to be taken from them as i had to call thm numerous times to gt a reply from them. So i tink it is better to let all our proud PE owner to know n avoid the place at ALL cost as it would bring them a lot of heartache whn their new PE is serviced by great 'professional' at that place. whistling.gif

The issues that i had to face until i change a diff place.

a. On the first day of obtaining the car from Atiara, there was an issue with the left hand side door window. Water was able to leak in from contact point between the rubber and window. It seems that the run channel rubber is faulty. The item was not changed, what the service center personnel did was just to apply a whitish liquid to recondition the rubber and put it back in place. After going back there for more than 3times and complaining on the same problem only were they satisfied to replace the run channel rubber for me. In addition to all this, I was charged RM3.50 for processing fee. So much inconvenience caused and I am still charged a processing fee? What kind of service is this?

b. After 2 to 3 weeks of driving, I found that there was a knocking sound coming from my front right hand side. The knocking sound only appears when cornering on uneven ground. It was very prominent when driving up and down of Carrefour multi level parking. I complaint at Senaxis about this issue. They tried a few times to identify the problem but was not able to detect it. Therefore, I did some checking of my own. I found out from the internet and some friends that there was some issue with the previous design of the power steering fluid delivery unit. When i inform Senaxis about this, the answer from them was that my unit was the latest design and the issue was not from there. In addition, the mechanic there was telling me that this was the infamous Carrefour sound and there was no remedies for it at the moment even after I highlighted that it was from the power steering fluid delivery unit. Finally, i got it fixed when I send my car to CoSE. There was no questions asked and the power steering fluid delivery unit was changed as it was a known issue (when I asked the person attending to my car)

c. After 2 months of driving, I was faced with another issue. There was a high pitch screeching sound coming from the fan belt auto tensioner. After sending it to Senaxis, the mechanic informed me that it was normal for the sound to appear and that we (the drivers) are to concern as we do not know that this sound has no effect on the car what-so-ever and that we are just paranoid as the car is still new. The mechanics there just took out the unit and sand paper the part and told me that it is very dirty due to high silicone compound in the belt. After that, they told me that the issue has been resolved. Upon reaching home from the service center, the sound returned again. I went back there again (27th May 2011) after approximately a week plus. They did the same thing again. (Sand paper the part). The sound was still there after the unit was placed back with an addition of a knocking sound. They told me to return again another day to service the unit. I was forced to return to them again. This was on 31st May 2011. What they did was the same thing again – sand paper the part to “clean the dust”. When asked why isn’t the unit replace as it has been time and time again having the same issue, they informed me that it was not under proton to replace the part. The car is brand new, less than 9000km. The 3rd service has not been done yet. Why is it not faulty if it is having the similar issue even after it has been serviced? In addition, the mechanic told me that it was the best that they are able to do. There is nothing else that can be done. (I need to live with this defect?) What kind of efficient service is this?

d. service personnel are not professional in performing their tasks as they do not look into the proper manner to jack up a car. In two occasions, my side skirt were pressed in between the car jack and the car’s body. I am unsure whether there is any internal damage caused to the clips as it is not visible.

This is d same email i sent to i-care as a complain.
So guys and gals pls b a gud Samaritan n blacklist tis place.
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:59 AM)
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It's already blacklisted before u even mentioned it laugh.gif

But question is.. Why u still go there when we've blacklisted it? hmm.gif just asking..
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I was d person who blacklisted it d last time. rclxub.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 12:02 PM)
laugh.gif Okok.. Hahah.. But have u been updated by I-Care over this?
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Nope...had to call thm tonnes of times to gt thm to let me know that they would only look into it. Furthermore, d person told me that they are unable to disclose d action taken to d service center as i assume would be nothing doh.gif
Tis i bcos i tink i din go there after May n made my complain on first week of June. n one of our members here went on June also n got screwed by them also. So my best bet would be that proton is ignorant towards their customers. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 12:20 PM)
laugh.gif 'Standard procedures'... my ass.
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yeap. agreed fully. But thr's ntg tat we can do other thn inform d general public n make d place go bankrupt as they have no sales. rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 10:52 PM)
They havent done the NCAP on the PE.. But Waja's was low.. If I'm not mistaken 2 or 3 stars only..

He compensate u berapa? No dent? If no dent I think ur scratch can fix wan leh..


Added on July 11, 2011, 9:55 pm
Manual can use.. But I'm not sure how well S-flow muffler will work with manual PE. Cos pretty much everything is the same for the setup except the muffler.

Full exhaust? At that time my hotbits was RM 470-480, bullet RM 120 (or was it RM 150?), mid box RM 120 (or RM150, either one way or the other). S-flow muffler depend on which 1 u like, may cost RM 200-400 depending on ur preference.
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So Xan, which 1 better to go for first?

LCP = bout RM600
Full exhaust = Hotbits + Bullet + Midbox + S-FLow muffler bout RM 1100

by the way, yr full exhaust system is plus installation?
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:17 PM)
Full exhaust first la of cos if u got the budget..
If u realise a lot of Indians love Perdana & Waja. Waja especially. The next time a Waja (especially green or light blue) drive up next to u, check to see whether the driver is an indian or not laugh.gif
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But i m looking for better FC at similar power tat i m having now.
Does yr full exhaust estimate include installation of the items?
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:26 PM)
Better FC at similar power? rclxub.gif The main reason u mod ur exhaust system is to get more power out of it.. And of course, better FC.. U're the only 1 that I know don't want the power rclxub.gif


Added on July 11, 2011, 10:27 pm
Hu Ge Clea Va Ge... brows.gif
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i mean comparison with using a LCP and full exhaust change. Now looking for better deal for the buck laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 11 2011, 11:31 PM)
If FC is ur priority, go for LCP. If a balance of power & FC is ur priority, exhaust. But do remember that the effect of LCP increases as u add other mods to your car...
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ohhhhhh, so if i mod LCP now and mod my exhaust later on...it would be a whopper...
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 11 2011, 11:35 PM)
Actually putting in LCP do increase power to the wheels as well as improve FC.. Exhaust increases power from the engine at the same or slightly higher FC..
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woookay. So i m goin for d LCP thn. at least more bang for d buck. whn hav more money thn d exhaust will follow.
So for the LCP, wat brand and whr to install?
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jul 12 2011, 04:08 PM)
sound is not a big deal for me...already use to it after 1 month...
go for filter n spark plug 1st...sooner or later when u go fast u will think change break pad!!
breaking force sucks mad.gif ...damn dirty vmad.gif !!!
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soft lk super spongebob...more dirty thn dirty harry...3 days after wash already dirty mad.gif . Only use to work n bec. after 1 week looks lk my whole rim has been painted black. vmad.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 12 2011, 04:24 PM)
VS = voltage stabiliser
GC = grounding cable
Then u can trade ur rims for my pasu bunga rims.. XD.. Its easy to clean and not so dirty cos it has wheel cap..
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LOLZ!!!
thn my car would weigh a tonne. no offence guys... rclxms.gif
but there's stg that i m curious. Civic 1.5 is fitted with rear disc brake. Persona 1.6 no rear disc brakes. no safety in mind for our proton cars.

This post has been edited by owenteoh: Jul 12 2011, 03:29 PM
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 12 2011, 04:28 PM)
Your car is 'crouching tiger, hidden dragon'. You changed to other rims, other cars sure want to vroom vroom with u. brows.gif
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a sleeping dragon with Xtreeme power thumbup.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 12 2011, 04:41 PM)
Err..your car already weight more than a tonne without pasu bunga..

I believe you meant City 1.5 got rear disc brake...only pay over 35K more mah...cheap cheap..

btw. H-Line has disc brake lar...thats why I mentioned this pad performance still ok for non rev driver. It produced similar performance like City wan....at least with rear disc brake.
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i was implying on proton's sense of safety. Is luxury considered safety?
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 12 2011, 04:49 PM)
K.. Pls return & report to us when ur chassis koyak.. brows.gif


Added on July 12, 2011, 3:50 pm
That's because they're trying to cut cost mah. The Vios J also no rear disc brakes. But yes, I do agree that they should make disc brakes as a standard throughout the range.
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yeap. considering the weight of d car they shud at least make disc brake with d abs n ebd a compulsory item for all their PE. or is it they wan more ppl to get into accidents so they can make more money whn ppl change parts. rclxub.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:26 AM

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WTF wei...
I made an official complain to proton i-care about Senaxis then the boss from Senaxis (Ruby) call n *** kau me. Whr gt customer service like tat one? Is this d kind of standard of customer service that proton is promoting lor? Better b wary for those who plans to go to Senaxis. F*** area whn comes in terms of customer service.
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 15 2011, 10:34 AM)
Boycott kaw kaw that center la. Please put big warning for other owners not to send to this center. Kena complain, then called the customer to lepas geram. pariah betul.
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Yea lar. Damn kau vmad.gif
dunno wat kind of service they providing. If dun wan ppl complain thn improve lar. rclxub.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 15 2011, 10:47 AM)
What the Ƒuck? What she said? U also diam diam let her scold? vmad.gif No wonder that SC haven't improved ever after so many ppl complained. Should've recorded that conversation then bring it to i-Care again. That SC never close down I'll never be happy.


Added on July 15, 2011, 9:49 am
This 1 is the robber fell from the bike while police is chasing.. Then the robber wanted to reach for his gun police straight shoot no compromise.. thumbup.gif Should shoot Senaxis boss like that!!  vmad.gif
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QUOTE(khtee @ Jul 15 2011, 10:49 AM)
Ya.. what the heck... should call back i-care and report them again.. how can they retaliate against consumer. Lets see if proton is serious about improving their after sales service...
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 15 2011, 10:55 AM)
No need shoot one. Just ruin their reputation. You got gun meh? brows.gif
Owenteoh, please complain to I-care regarding the latest incident. That b**** sure don't care oredi, tembak dia kaw kaw.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 15 2011, 10:59 AM)
Yea. Don't be a customer that steps back just because kena scold by the party who did u wrong. Wan get gun sure can get wan.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 15 2011, 11:18 AM)
laugh.gif But don't worry.. I'm the type that prefer to sue & get compensation rather than kill.. brows.gif I wonder if Senaxis boss is making a lot of money to be able to scold the customer like that? If she is, then she must be rich. Sue her for RM 1-2million also nice..
laugh.gif Chill man. Beating traffic light is not the way to go.. Or did u get motivated after watching my vid last nite? XD

Yea, change tyre with high traction on wet roads for best handling in the rain.. Very useful especially for our PE M/B-line..

H-line in Australia got manual cry.gif
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Nope. I did not jus let her say wat she wanted to. Just made a complain to i-care this morning bout their action. But I dunno whether they would take any action or not lar. If i were to go n complain to Consumer Association, I m wondering which category to put it in. Any1 has any experience with the Consumer association complain center? I m now really pissed off with Senaxis and it is really a shame for proton to have tis kind of SC under them. Wonder if they can close tat place down. At least take them out from being proton's SC also better. Damn lousy way for them to do work. Service worse than shit then wan to blame the customer some more. Where d hell did they learn how to do customer service one.
Yo Xan, can i sue them ar? u know how?

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post Jul 15 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 15 2011, 11:41 AM)
What did she told u exactly?

U can file a complaint under unsatisfactory service.. Then include the fact that she scolded u as well.. Then after that things are pretty simple.. Just ask a lawyer to settle it for u..
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but there is no vulgarity. just a very harsh voice. Does that count?
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post Jul 15 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 15 2011, 12:01 PM)
laugh.gif HAHAHAHAHAH!! Den ask her out on a date.. LOL!!
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Even if she is d last female in d world i would rather put her on top of a fire to roast n have her as dinner thn date her.


QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Jul 15 2011, 12:10 PM)
WTH, what kind of customer service is that. Btw, why did I-care gave Senaxis your details.
Actually, I went to Senaxis once last month to complaint about the door rattling and check my front bumper.
Got one skinny mechanic wearing black shirt dark skin very lazy and kinda dirty. Hand,shirt all black and touch my car.Never cover my seat but cincai cover the floor mat with news paper.  I test drive with him to let him hear where the sound is coming from. He was like enjoying the ride rather than listening to my complaint. Then he go test drive my car. He put reverse got loud KERRRR sound. When he got back, he told the sound was normal. I said where got normal, he go put grease on the rubber.ZZZ and for the bitument layer gap,he said looks normal to me. Haiz, this kind of attitude,no use asking too much. If normal, I won't be wasting my time coming.
Sorry for the long story. Just sharing my experience.  smile.gif
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U shud call i-care n complain also. Let's make that place close down. rclxm9.gif

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