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Hardware First Llano QuadCore Notebook in Malaysia, Acer 5560G, ASUS A43TA, HP G4-1204AX

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IvanWong1989
post Jul 11 2011, 01:59 AM

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haha.... the westmere look funny... =.=.....


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post Jul 11 2011, 02:07 AM

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they are in the same package not on the same die.


i was referring to the westmere. the westmere put 2 different silicon onto the same cpu package under 1 heat spreader. one for the cpu and one for the gpu. in sandy bridge theres only one silicon consist of both cpu and gpu on the same silicon die.
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post Jul 11 2011, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(FullMetalBoy @ Jul 11 2011, 02:07 AM)
i was referring to the westmere. the westmere put 2 different silicon onto the same cpu package under 1 heat spreader. one for the cpu and one for the gpu. in sandy bridge theres only one silicon consist of both cpu and gpu on the same silicon die.
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OIC..found an interesting article discuss on the CPU/GPU communication path..
http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/56168/402191.aspx

In summary,Intel has more advance connection path but sucky GPU, in contrast, AMD has an inferior/less effective CPU/GPU interconnection system but backup by a powerful GPU (which means that AMD's current design could not fully unleash its integrated GPU power)

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post Jul 11 2011, 02:29 AM

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i guess the intel's one uses more power just for the connection path. they also need large amount of L3 to store data.
well to me, the amd is easier and cheaper to implement
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post Jul 11 2011, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Jul 11 2011, 02:20 AM)
OIC..found an interesting article discuss on the CPU/GPU communication path..
http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/56168/402191.aspx

In summary,Intel has more advance connection path but sucky GPU, in contrast, AMD has an inferior/less effective CPU/GPU interconnection system but backup by a powerful GPU (which means that AMD's current design could not fully unleash its integrated GPU power)
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CPU - Intel > AMD
GPU - AMD > Intel

that's all...

the integrated GPU is not really sth that's powerful... my Athlon II x2 at home is more than sufficient to feed HD4670...

basically i would say Llano is a gamer's dream come true... the combination is perfect for playing games without costing u a limb or two...
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post Jul 11 2011, 08:17 AM

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if it's true amd current connection haven unleash the gpu to full potential... wah i cant think of when they can drool.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:41 AM

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fuuu... 1899 oni

intel will butthurt i term or pricing.

even i3 sb is 1999 doh.gif

Malaysia acer is always the first. laugh.gif

intel win on cpu speed but will lose on gaming,multimedia and battery life.

i would love to have an 11" version of a6 llano.really gamer dream come true.imagine playing sc2 on medium for 2-3 hour on battery.
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:36 AM

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so i pick CPU > INTEL & GPU > AMD laugh.gif like my lappy..
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post Jul 11 2011, 03:18 PM

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mind i ask where can i get acer aspire 5560G ???
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QUOTE(siksa @ Jul 11 2011, 10:41 AM)
fuuu... 1899 oni

intel will butthurt i term or pricing.

even i3 sb is 1999 doh.gif

Malaysia acer is always the first. laugh.gif

intel win on cpu speed but will lose on gaming,multimedia and battery life.

i would love to have an 11" version of a6 llano.really gamer dream come true.imagine playing sc2 on medium for 2-3 hour on battery.
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dun think 11" has the space to house a heatsink to handle 35W TDP...

unless u re talking abt AW m11x, that is... tongue.gif
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post Jul 11 2011, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 11 2011, 03:30 PM)
dun think 11" has the space to house a heatsink to handle 35W TDP...

unless u re talking abt AW m11x, that is... tongue.gif
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gogo m11x!!!!! lolx..

menacing....

eheh.... asus july august brchire no hav a8 apu/... wuwu..... zzzz

only one(1) model for llano...zzzzzzz frustrated....
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post Jul 11 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Jul 11 2011, 08:17 AM)
if it's true amd current connection haven unleash the gpu to full potential... wah i cant think of when they can  drool.gif
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Nah, it won't have much benefits. PCI Express X16 2.0 only have 8GB/s bandwidth each direction (16GB/s total) which means it much less than 29.8GB/s using 1.86GHz DDR3 on Llano. Its not a matter of link speed, it's a matter of GPU power.
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post Jul 11 2011, 06:24 PM

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omg. this is better than i5 2410m?

Might give up on n43sl n get this. Anyone see it on market yet?
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Jul 11 2011, 06:24 PM)
omg. this is better than i5 2410m?

Might give up on n43sl n get this. Anyone see it on market yet?
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depends on work, but 2410M should still be better in most cases...

wat Llano sells is the overall performance of the whole chip...
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post Jul 11 2011, 09:21 PM

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so for rendering or encoding..i5 beats llano A6 etc hands down?
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jul 11 2011, 09:21 PM)
so for rendering or encoding..i5 beats llano A6 etc hands down?
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should be...

those take alot cpu raw power.. haha...

llano is just allrounder....

rmb that...

if hav budget to pack intel+nvidiar/radeon... haha... it willl still beat llano , my own opinion..

if hav budget la..

most people 2k+-.. llano suits them! ^^

allrounder .
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:27 PM

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hurm. 4 existing cores?

or a 2 core HT into 4 cores?

benchmark shows that i5 2410>a6. but..hurm..

was thinking of getting a43sv..but a43ta is not tat bad either..

decision decision. haha. trust me. lepas beli im gonna boycott mobile computing thread. sakit hati ja seeing new tech comes up. tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:41 PM

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For Llano a6, it's 4 physical cores.

Yeah that's a good idea. I used to do that. laugh.gif

Then I realized I couldn't chase tech. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jul 12 2011, 03:27 PM)
hurm. 4 existing cores?

or a 2 core HT into 4 cores?

benchmark shows that i5 2410>a6. but..hurm..

was thinking of getting a43sv..but a43ta is not tat bad either..

decision decision. haha. trust me. lepas beli im gonna boycott mobile computing thread. sakit hati ja seeing new tech comes up. tongue.gif
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lol, you cant chase technology....just be grateful of which laptop you'll have...

although i also sakit hati tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 04:01 PM

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very very sakit hati me... sigh.... rm2699 for my lappy that time..

now same money can get n43sl......

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