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post Sep 3 2005, 02:17 PM, updated 20y ago

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I'm in the market for a wah pedal...something that can give me the psychedelic/blusey Hendrix sorta sound, and is also suitable for funk. The only one I've seen for sale locally is the Ibanez WD-7 Weeping Demon. Anyone can tell me if it's any good?

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Hendrix sound??? I'm not sure if the WD-7 could give you that classic sound but you won't go wrong with Dunlop's Original Crybaby or the 535Q. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 3 2005, 03:02 PM

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Yeah, that's sort of what I figured. sad.gif

I've tried the Crybaby before, but didn't like it. Sweep range too limited, not enough bite.

Does anyone know anything about the Jacques Trinity Wah or the RMC Wah series? I've heard good things about them.
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post Sep 3 2005, 03:44 PM

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if you;re going for a hendrix sound theres nothing better than the digitech hendrix pedal
try it and you'll be amazed
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post Sep 3 2005, 04:03 PM

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RMC have good reviews... and so does the Trinity.. that's all I know.

Basics for wah :
A limited sweep range is suitable for funk --> you can get this tchk-tchk-wah sound easily
A longer sweep range, with wider frequency range is harder to control for riffs, but they provide more flexibility for shredder solos.

Myself I found hapiness in the Teh21 Killer Wail smile.gif But I didn't try the RMC or Jacques Trinity Wah.

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post Sep 3 2005, 04:12 PM

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crybaby from hell,
ZW's zig crybaby.

im not sure if they'll give you a good hendrix type sweep.... but try these 2 if you're goign for "high end" wah pedals
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Sep 3 2005, 03:44 PM)
if you;re going for a hendrix sound theres nothing better than the digitech hendrix pedal
try it and you'll be amazed
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Yeah... but that's not a wah pedal!!! Not sure if that's what he's looking at because it's kinda hard & limited for live use.

Though, I would love to try it one day. tongue.gif Looks bloody funky & addictive! tongue.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Sep 3 2005, 06:54 PM

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actually the dunlop one gets quite close but as reload said, sweep a bit limited.. my classmate has the original crybaby... he likes it.. but he does wish it had more sweep...
and if ur gonna use the original cry baby, better have a equalizer...
get the 535Q la...
i heard its not bad...

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More sweep??? Tell him to remove the rubber blocker or something like that underneath the pedal...

Zakk Wylde's tip, don't have a Crybaby to play with so I'm not sure about this. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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the dunlop are really old-fashionned, they quickly get dust in the mechanism, and the condensator spoils after a while... blrrr...
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post Sep 3 2005, 09:03 PM

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Get the Morley Tremonti Power Wah / Bad Horsie . Heard it's good. You can try it out at bentleys.
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post Sep 3 2005, 09:46 PM

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If you want Hendrix's funk sound.... then you HAVE to get the JH-1 Hendrix wah, with a splash of a Fuzz-face. There's really no subsitute for that.

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The wah you tried is probably the cheapest in the range., which is what I'm using also, the GCB-95.

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But if you want a Jimi wah with even more Oomph.... you absolutely MUST get the ZW-45, Zakk Wylde Signature Wah

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I don't think I can get that Wah yet, at least not until Xmas.....My phone is acting weird and will have to get a new one first.

Or I could ask for a Zakk Wylde pedal board set for Xmas..... YUM!
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i knew when i saw u post u sure come up with zakk's wah
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morley wahs are good too... but i think their quite far from the hendrix sound rite ?
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Thanks for the tips, guys. thumbup.gif

Blacktrix is right - the Dunlop Wah I tried was the GCB-95, the cheap one. No wonder I was disappointed.

Now, I don't suppose there's a KL dealer around that has a whole selection that I could try...?
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wohfatt ?
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always so crowded the roads there...

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post Sep 4 2005, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(kardock @ Sep 4 2005, 04:51 PM)
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Bentley's has alot of the Dunlop Wah's there.
But don't expect them to let you test all of them.
Unless you plomp down a credit card first....No service man.

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post Sep 5 2005, 08:30 AM

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i have the wd7 and i dont think itll give u what u want although u can adjust the sweep range to be very big. there are lots of knobs for u to adjust the type of wah u want there
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Weeping Demon is definately more towards the metal crowd..... DEFINATELY not as suitable for a funk musician. I'm not saying that you absolutely CAN'T use the Weeping Demon for funk, but you're better off getting a Dunlop Wah compared because of it's unique tones.
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any sites that teach u how to play funk music? like just for practise or sth.. or any sites that have the tabs
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Bentley have original Crybaby and Morley wah as far as i can remember...and it's inside the glass rack laugh.gif
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post Oct 8 2005, 04:59 PM

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wud wah pedal creates that very classic wah sound.... sumth like slash type of wah.....

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post Oct 9 2005, 09:35 AM

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Of course!!!! The only difference between the regular Dunlop Wah pedals and his pedals? Slash uses a Custom Cunlop Wah Rack system. Basically, he has a central unit in his rack, and that unit distributes the signal to the controllers all over the stage.

But remember, get a wah which suits your musical playing. If you're playing funk, don't bother with a weeping demon, or for that matter, a Wylde Wah. But if you're playing alot of metal or hard rock music, then those will suit you fine.
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post Oct 9 2005, 09:45 AM

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what is the most affordable wah pedal available in the market? .... i actually haven't have the chance to play a wah before....
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post Oct 9 2005, 02:06 PM

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the GCB95 is prolly the cheapest one out there....
or the Vox wah....

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post Oct 9 2005, 04:57 PM

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h0w much arethey?
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GCB-95 I think retails for about 350 bucks. Not sure about the Vox one though.

Right now, I can't decide between a Rotovibe or the Wylde Wah. Obviously, I already have a wah, but the Wylde Wah has a much wider range (AND with Fasel inside!), but the rotovibe will only be used sparringly, although it's something that I might play alot with it....

Guys? What are your picks??
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why not try dimebag darell's crybaby? i've had a chance to try it and i prefer it over the hendrix wah....much more crunch!!!
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knowing u, surely u'll be extremely happy with a Wylde Wah. add to ur ZW arsenal! tongue.gif
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Yeah, but the Rotovibe also adds to the arsenal.

But amazingly, I found the Dimebag a little Too overpowering. Remember, I still want to play alot of Hendrix and funk style music too. And the Wylde Wah is unique because it comes with a little tuner so you can adjust how much "Pressure" you can add to the pedal.

Sometimes I just leave it on at a certain level, just for the sound. That one, I will need a very hard pressure. But for Funk where you "Rock the cradle", you need a very loose wah. So that's why a Wylde Wah is very useful also.
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any opinion on Zoom 707II multi effect with Wah pedal? .... is it worth a buy...or should i get a stand alone wah pedal/effect ? .... i dun do live gigs..merely play in a hidden room in the middle of nowhere ... tongue.gif
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Get a dedicated Wah pedal man. The Zoom 707II doesn't have that full Wah sound that we all know and love. Even the GFX-5 wah isn't all that good.

Get the GCB-90. It's relatively cheap and is VERY versatile.
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thanx man, well...actually my fren recommended me Zoom 707II coz of the multi effect...the wah is some sorta bonus with it...yeah, i know it's not as good as the real deal...

u got a zoom multi effect rite? how's that little thing perform??? does it play up to ur standard???
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To me, it does the basic effects well.... I get to play around with lots of different effects with lots of great combinations. Also, with the expression pedal, you get to play around alot more, like the flange, tremolo, volume and pitch effects alot more. I can faithfully replicate alot of Tom Morello's stuff in his new Audioslave days. Like A Stone can be faithfully replicated.

I also like to play with the different distortion effects that you can get and the amp modelling is pretty decent. In fact, I'm actually using the tube amp modelling which is connected to my ZW-44.... and it does a good job of replicating Zakk's tone.
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wylde wah definitely....
the rotovibe would come last if i was going for teh full ZW gear....
amp would be the 1st on the list...
modded JCM800..
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Amp is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off my budget at the moment.
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zoom seem pretty promising for experimenting with tonnes of effect....me gonna think really hard on this...Squire Strat or Zoom 707II???? makes me ponder .....
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What do you use for effects now Metalhead??
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currently using Boss SD1 plus the overdrive on the amp itself...i'm pretty satisfy with the tone...but i'm trying to experiment with more effect ...that's y i'm looking for a multi-effect to practise first ...
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Have you thought of the Boss ME-50???
It doesn't come with amp modelling, but it has all the cool effects that Boss is famous for. Because it is a dedicated effect module, you don't have to worry about the amp settings and all that.
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hey metalhead,
never tried a wah??!!! wahlau eh. then i can just go over to your place when i am free and u can play with my weeping demon wah. simple as that right? the thing is i dont know when u're free and i will also be quite busy. finals coming up. as for the zoom, i also use a zoom. a zoom505II which was my first pedal i got(dad bought for me for christmas) over 5-6 or maybe 7 years ago. its still in my lineup. the wah isnt that nice but then i think its good enough for room purpose(i have a roland expression pedal so i can use the wah on a 505II). the reason i keep the zoom is coz of the modulation. even though ppl say zoom sucks like hell, ive seen guitarists who have tonnes of pedals(including line 6 modulation pedals. the huge ones) and still keep the zoom 505 in their rig coz of the unique modulation sounds. reason is its not too analogue sounding. bad thing about it is that you cant really alter the effect parameters in a zoom to get exactly what you want.

ive tried the boss me50 and i am quite impressed. the thing is if i didnt have the stompboxes i have now i wouldve gotten it already. another good thing about the me50 is that it sounds good used with a guitar amp, not like an amp modeller which tone will be affected when used with a real guitar amp
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ebp, that's kool....when is your holiday? but i'm very bz at the moment....can hardly breath sad.gif no time for my guitar also .... thinkin of quiting my job to be with my guitar tongue.gif ....
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probably free on raya although thats supposed to be my study break for finals which is the week after raya.

my gear are all at my uncle's place in subang. i guess i can only bring the wah back. very troublesome if i want to bring my whole pedalboard and rack preamp to my hostel then bring over to ur place.(and i dont think it would be safe having my rack lying around in my hostel. theres been a few stealing cases already where laptops and computers go missing)
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Should have another outting man. One where we can all try each other's gear.
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hard for me to carry gear around lah. its so big and bulky and i use public transport to go around.
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Has anyone tried the Vox V-847 Wah???

I'm really tempted to try it out, since it's close to the same specs that Jimi used to use.

For all the famous songs that you remember from Jimi, he was probably using the Vox.

Didn't know that until I read the article. I thought it was Jim Dunlop that made his first wah..... AND he found out the unique sound of the Wah from................

Eric Clapton when he was in Cream.
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Anyone tried the Boss V-Wah before? It's got like six different wah sounds and a seperate overdrive control. Sounds too good to be true, so I'm sceptical. Plus, Boss have a history of making as many poor pedals as they do good ones.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Oct 13 2005, 01:33 PM)
probably free on raya although thats supposed to be my study break for finals which is the week after raya.

my gear are all at my uncle's place in subang. i guess i can only bring the wah back. very troublesome if i want to bring my whole pedalboard and rack preamp to my hostel then bring over to ur place.(and i dont think it would be safe having my rack lying around in my hostel. theres been a few stealing cases already where laptops and computers go missing)
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QUOTE(Reload @ Oct 16 2005, 01:23 AM)
Anyone tried the Boss V-Wah before? It's got like six different wah sounds and a seperate overdrive control. Sounds too good to be true, so I'm sceptical. Plus, Boss have a history of making as many poor pedals as they do good ones.
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Well, it's a Wah Modeller, some ppl are gonna pick on its digital sounding, some are gonna like its versatility. Each to their own opinion, I guess.
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heard behringer's helbabe wah is out and kinda cheap?

anyone has tested it?


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Any word on the Vox Wah? Anybody?
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that's actually the brand used by hendrix... that's all I can say.
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hey metalhead, interested in testing out a gt8 once i get mine this saturday?

yeeehhhhaaaa
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I think the wah used by Clapton differs from Hendrix's, Clapton's wah is more bass-heavy while Hendrix's focuses more on the mid-range. Then again I'm not too sure abt this.
I'm not sure how the new Vox wah sounds too, but considering the fact that it's a classic, you shouldn't go far wrong with it. thumbup.gif
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Yeah..... very tempted to try it out...... but will still stick to the ZW-45 Wah.
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hey metalhead, interested in testing out a gt8 once i get mine this saturday?

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sure...but i'll only b free maybe during raya sad.gif .....

might be considering getting zoom multi effect (the one with the wah tongue.gif) later this month or next ...when i have the time to go and test out those stuffs...
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if you want the zoom 505 II, i will be back on november in malaysia. I can bring mine, and sell it to you, at 30% of the retail price (i'm clearly not using it... just the jam-man that I may regret).

Anyway, it's your call smile.gif

blacktrix > wow, i would have guessed you'd stick to that...
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I like the tittle Tuner peg that comes with the ZW-45. The one to adjust how hard or soft the pedal is.... I'm always picky on those kind of things.....
And besides...... it's Zakk's Wah!!!
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pix wanna sell ure amp when u come back at the end of year?
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Oct 21 2005, 09:54 AM)
I like the tittle Tuner peg that comes with the ZW-45. The one to adjust how hard or soft the pedal is.... I'm always picky on those kind of things.....
And besides...... it's Zakk's Wah!!!
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hmm... that sounds useful,
how does the wylde wah sound ??
can it do those classic wah sounds? [those wif fasel inductors in em like the QCB 95F ]
can it sound like slash type of wah??
[yea i know his using a rack, trying to find a wah that sounds like his tongue.gif ]
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YES YES AND YES!
The Zakk Wylde Wah is actually modelled after the original Jimi Hendrix Wah, which itself was GREAT for funk AND it has Fasel Inside.

The Wylde Wah was really built for metal with that touch of that classic Dunlop Wah sound. If you're after Slash's tone, I think this is the closest thing you'll get besides a rack system.

But honestly, if you want a Wah for funk, then get the original Jimi Hendrix wah.... If you want something with alot of Gain, get the Dime Wah... If you want a metal wah with a rich deep end, get the Zakk Wylde one.

Simple as that.
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great!!!
lol.... i`ll get it after 3 more years biggrin.gif
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evo.com, my amp is in tahiti now... I brought it with me, and I'm glad I did so because i'm living in a house, with NO neighbours. I can just shag the thing till there are flames coming out of it. Sweeeet.
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Oct 21 2005, 10:46 AM)
pix wanna sell ure amp when u come back at the end of year?
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Haha someone kena the GAS bug izzit? tongue.gif

Btw it's Matamp available in your area? They produce hand-wired boutique amps and have a good reputation, this one looks cute :
http://www.matamp.co.uk/minimat.htm

Pixolydian, where are you living??? In a jungle??? tongue.gif

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Guys, you know the band AudioSlave ? One of their song was erh ... "like a stone". There's one part of the song the guitarist did his solo with some effects on.

Anybody knows how to the effects ? Sounds very ... "out of space" unsure.gif
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ive only seen one matamp before.... its the 10/5/1W version.... cant really rmb.... studio recording amp...
the owner is selling it for $3599NZD..... for the head alone...lol

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Whacker.... He used a pitch shifter.... I can replicate the solo PERFECTLY using the gfx-5.... Will post the recording once I figure out how to record via the GFX5

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He used the Digitech Whammy pedal. Your GFX can replicate the pitch shifting effects, but the Whammy's more than a pitch-shifter. tongue.gif tongue.gif A tone killer too.

Pix, what a lovely home you got there! Don't tear it down with your Classic. tongue.gif

Evo.com, $3599NZD???? OMG... might as well as order a new one built to your own specs? tongue.gif
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oh wait.... its 3599 for the entire rig....
the C7 7W head and 12"speaker cab... any choice of celestion speakers
still a little too expensive i think... tongue.gif

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Oh... that's the higher end one I suppose! tongue.gif tongue.gif

The Minimat looks cool tho, at the same time has potential to fry your neighbours' asses. tongue.gif
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Well, we have Ceria Tone, don't we??? Maybe one day we should pay a visit to their work station? tongue.gif
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Behringer HELLBABE HB01
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denhock, cool stuffs...any idea how much this hellbabe cost? ...
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denhock, cool stuffs...any idea how much this hellbabe cost? ...
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RM 180 as refer to pasar road price
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like wut type of wah??
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thanx, the shop u r refering to ...is it the one at the main road (pasar road of coz) ...or the one behind RHB bank? .... so beside this wah, do they carry any other behringer products??
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Has anyone tried the Vox V-847 Wah???

I'm really tempted to try it out, since it's close to the same specs that Jimi used to use.

For all the famous songs that you remember from Jimi, he was probably using the Vox.

Didn't know that until I read the article. I thought it was Jim Dunlop that made his first wah..... AND he found out the unique sound of the Wah from................

Eric Clapton when he was in Cream.
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I have the Cream 4CD box set, and it quotes that Eric was inspired to play wah when he listened to hendrix's "burning of the midnight lamp" in Smash Hits, circa 66-67... Eric's first song with wah is "song of brave ulysses", from "disreali gears". anyway, "white room" is a rip-off of "song of brave ulysses", but longer and cooler solo... thumbup.gif
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I thought it was the other way round....... I thought Hendrix was inspired to play Wah when he heard Cream???
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hey guys im interested in a wah pedal.. led zep knows =P i like funky wah kinda sounds... like wat the clyde delivers smile.gif anyone know how much and where to get it? or there any alternatives
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Yes! The MXR/Jim Dunlop JH-1 Jimi Hendrix Wah!!
Ask Jemi...... he has one!!
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I thought it was the other way round....... I thought Hendrix was inspired to play Wah when he heard Cream???
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Hmm.. well according to the booklet, clapton was inspired by hendrix...

and according to the gear guide in fender.com, hendrix used a VOX wah..

anyway, whoever copied whoever, i think "burning of the midnight lamp" rocks! does it mean the same thing as "burning the midnight oil"?

cheers!

p/s thinking of buying behringer hellbabe. Main reason : Broke-ness. want the wah-ing in hendrix and cream. Up to the job?

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Hellbabe is based on the Dime CryBaby from Hell.....

And from what I know of the crybaby from hell.... it sure as HELL don't play funk well.....
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which are better? the vox Clyde McCoy Wah-Wah or the V847 Wah-Wah Pedal and how much are they? lol i heard the demo.. its alrite but not as nice as the fulltone clyde wah
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It's incredibly hard to find Vox Wah's here in malaysia......... Can anyone help him out? I'm looking to test the McCoy Wah also... I'm still a Dunlop man through and through..... but just want to hear what the competition sounds like......
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what about the behringer hell babe?it has a wider range than the crybaby
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So that's the thread we should use to "archive" all our pedals advices in the future wink.gif
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QUOTE(Pix @ Mar 11 2006, 11:37 PM)
So that's the thread we should use to "archive" all our pedals advices in the future wink.gif
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I thought I opened up a thread called The Pedal Board..... what ever happened to that??!!
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 11 2006, 11:43 PM)
I thought I opened up a thread called The Pedal Board..... what ever happened to that??!!
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That thread got deleted by the Admins sleep.gif

No harm starting all over right ? rolleyes.gif
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Yeah, the outing topic got deleted too lol... I didn't manage to save the photos & wanted to get it, but it's .... G-O-N-E... noooo.... lol

Can anybody repost them? XD
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So, can I have permission to open up the Pedal Board again??? I like the name...... too cute!!!
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make a thread... "Pedal Board", and whack or I will pin it up, so it will never get deleted again !
first page shall summarize price ranges and types of pedals recommended, as proposed in this thread... loads of work, but hey... only have to do it once wink.gif
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yeah.. quick. make the thread and pin it up.. so i won't get into trouble like i did.

haha.. cos i didn't spot this thread and posted a new post. pin this up and make it a Q&A or a review-type thread. you know, where they review pedals.
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i feel lazy today... i'll start to do something about that later on.
i remember some interesting distortion pedals and wah wah reviews, i'll try to include them in the new pin up thread..
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really confusing now......

what should i get?

Boss MD-2 and MT-2 demo sound almost the same....MT-2 just slightly heavier than md-2...any opinion from u all for both pedal?

can provide the market price as well?

Thanks...
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Anybody tried a morley dual bass wah? and know if i can get it anywhere in KL? and how much it would run for? well and any other relevant info would help.. thanks in advance
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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Mar 24 2006, 08:58 PM)
really confusing now......

what should i get?

Boss MD-2 and MT-2 demo sound almost the same....MT-2 just slightly heavier than md-2...any opinion from u all for both pedal?

can provide the market price as well?

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I don't know about the prices, but I say that its impossible to get a nice distortion out of the MD-2 and that the MT-2 is not flexible and a little artificial, but sounds pretty good.

Of course, it's been months since I've tried either, and I was very noobish when I did... doh.gif

My recommendation, though - get and amp with decent distortion, and crank it with a booster. (I just checked your rig. Doesn't the Cube 30 have decent distortion already?)



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yeah why wanna get those? furthermore those are not overdrive pedals that enhance distortion.
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susah to turn on and off the distortion from the amp i guess.
got pedal easy...step...step..step....
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but that defeats the purpose of getting a modelling amp in the first place.
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hmm...that's one of the way to have higher quality tone.....

how about a fender amp or marshall amp.....but fender amp sounds soft but powerful(the boost)....i love the fender so much...but never ask for the price....
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susah to turn on and off the distortion from the amp i guess.
got pedal easy...step...step..step....
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noooo......the distortion on the amp not too powerful as i ask my friend(6 years player) to test it out....if i buy the pedal only for more convenience....there's nothing but wasting for me as i not gig....
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if it's not powerful enough, get an overdrive pedal to add more gain to it, not get a new distortion altogether.
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@nerd

you mean that.....get an overdrive pedal and pair with the metal channel on the amp and play?


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yes. something like the boss sd-1 or mxr zw-44 or the digitech bad monkey.
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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Mar 25 2006, 12:22 PM)
noooo......the distortion on the amp not too powerful as i ask my friend(6 years player) to test it out....if i buy the pedal only for more convenience....there's nothing but wasting for me as i not gig....
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When you're setting the gain on your amp, the best to tip to keep in mind is that "you always need less gain than you think you need,". Go easy with the gain and if you think you're lacking distortion, whack your strings harder, you'ill be surprised how musical your guitar and amp could sound. thumbup.gif
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When you're setting the gain on your amp, the best to tip to keep in mind is that "you always need less gain than you think you need,". Go easy with the gain and if you think you're lacking distortion, whack your strings harder, you'ill be surprised how musical your guitar and amp could sound. thumbup.gif
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Yup, that's true ... .

I have seen alot of noobs, first time on stage go and put the Gain to 10 shocking.gif. He thinks more gain more cool shakehead.gif ... my ears was like rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 25 2006, 05:54 PM)
When you're setting the gain on your amp, the best to tip to keep in mind is that "you always need less gain than you think you need,". Go easy with the gain and if you think you're lacking distortion, whack your strings harder, you'ill be surprised how musical your guitar and amp could sound. thumbup.gif
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definitely. and even for metal, more gain isn't necessarily better, in contrary to the general assumption.

QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Mar 25 2006, 07:32 PM)
Yup, that's true ... .

I have seen alot of noobs, first time on stage go and put the Gain to 10 shocking.gif. He thinks more gain more cool  shakehead.gif ... my ears was like  rclxub.gif
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heh, so am I a noob too for maxing out the gain on my Vox's Mesa modeller on stage? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Mar 25 2006, 07:32 PM)
Yup, that's true ... .

I have seen alot of noobs, first time on stage go and put the Gain to 10 shocking.gif. He thinks more gain more cool  shakehead.gif ... my ears was like  rclxub.gif
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Exactly, worse if they're using Boss distortion pedals (*Ahem* Metal Zone), ear-piercing and fizzy. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(nerd @ Mar 25 2006, 08:12 PM)
definitely. and even for metal, more gain isn't necessarily better, in contrary to the general assumption.
heh, so am I a noob too for maxing out the gain on my Vox's Mesa modeller on stage? biggrin.gif
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Yup, more gain also means less clarity and more compression.
If you substitute the gain with volume, you'ill get a bigger sound with clarity to cut through the band. thumbup.gif What sounds good in the bedroom doesn't necessary sound the same live. smile.gif
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icic....Thanks for so much comment...

btw....which overdrive pedal is better btw the digitech bad monkey and boss's distortion pedal?

i ask my teacher to let me test out the bad monkey today....unfortunately a 'sold' tag there and no more stock....

after listen to the demo sound..personally felt that the vad monkay would be better...


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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 25 2006, 05:54 PM)
When you're setting the gain on your amp, the best to tip to keep in mind is that "you always need less gain than you think you need,". Go easy with the gain and if you think you're lacking distortion, whack your strings harder, you'ill be surprised how musical your guitar and amp could sound. thumbup.gif
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hmm...u mean that..lets say...normally i love to use gain at 8....if i go for gig on the stage...i'm not suppose to use such high gain...should be around 6?


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You could. Of course, you would need to turn your volume control up slightly so you're still loud enough. Just use your ears, play with the controls, find something you like and stick with it.

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 25 2006, 08:21 PM)
Exactly, worse if they're using Boss distortion pedals (*Ahem* Metal Zone), ear-piercing and fizzy.  rclxub.gif
Yup, more gain also means less clarity and more compression.
If you substitute the gain with volume, you'ill get a bigger sound with clarity to cut through the band. thumbup.gif What sounds good in the bedroom doesn't necessary sound the same live. smile.gif
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Ooh...yeah well if u arent gonna use it much in live gigs then theres no argument about pedal easy to turn on/off distortion. hehe. But if u wanna play live...its a freaking pain to run back to ur amp to turn it on/off. hahaha.

Dats all i can say lar...coz i'm a bassist. hahahhaa. sorry.
theres many pedals out there..go try them out. No need pay to try rite. hehe
JS music has tech 21. go try see lar. Radial also got...but radials r freaking EXPENSIVE.
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Okies..... Just a quick run down for those interested....

Those looking for a Classic rock style overdrive (think AC/DC), go with an Overdrive pedal.... something like a Boss SD-1 or the Digitech Bad Monkey

If you want a distortion that has more of a classic metal feel (Zakk Wylde, The Darkness, Slash)..... try out the Dunlop/MXR ZW-44 pedal that is fed through a high gain distortion amp or you can try out the SD-1 or Bad Monkey through a dirty amp as well.....
Another alternative to achieving that sound is using a Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal or the Digitech Hot Head pedal... which is a pure distortion pedal.... that doesn't need to pass through a dirty amp.

If you want something of a Nu-Metal *urgh* style "chug" (Slipknot, Disturbed, Korn), then there's no greater pedal then the Boss MT-2 "Metal Zone" pedal..... but that will just suck your tone DRY.... Other Alternatives are the Dimebag Distortion from Dunlop/MXR and Digitech's Death Metal pedal. If you do have the extra cash..... try out Digitech's The Weapon which basically takes Dan Donegan (from Disturbed) famous sounds from their hit songs and combines it all in one pedal. I've heard this before and I can say that it's suitable for ANY kind of Hard Metal..... not just disturbed songs.

You can find more info on these pedals from http://www.digitech.com, http://www.jimdunlop.com or http://www.bossus.com

next up..... Wah's!!!

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but the Metal Zone reduces your tone to an airport runway, and it is not for use onstage or even band practice. and it makes ears bleed.
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True...... ok.... retract my statement....... DON'T use the Metal Zone....... Get the Dimebag Distortion or the Metal Head instead
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everybody had let mek now much more about pedal.....that means...if i need a classic metal tone...i will need a ZW-44 from jimdunlop...

blacktrix....have you order ur wylde wah from any music shop?
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 29 2006, 05:16 PM)
Okies..... Just a quick run down for those interested....

Those looking for a Classic rock style overdrive (think AC/DC), go with an Overdrive pedal.... something like a Boss SD-1 or the Digitech Bad Monkey

If you want a distortion that has more of a classic metal feel (Zakk Wylde, The Darkness, Slash)..... try out the Dunlop/MXR ZW-44 pedal that is fed through a high gain distortion amp or you can try out the SD-1 or Bad Monkey through a dirty amp as well.....
Another alternative to achieving that sound is using a Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal or the Digitech Hot Head pedal... which is a pure distortion pedal.... that doesn't need to pass through a dirty amp.

next up..... Wah's!!!
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the danelectro dj13 octave/fuzz.. can it produce sounds like "purple haze"..

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If you want the EXACT sounds like Hendrix, you're better off buying the Jimi Hendrix Experience Pedal from Digitech......

If you want something with that 70s Hippy Rock..... then yes.... a Fuzz Face would do just fine.
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i was wondering whch effect could be as close to mimic Big Muff pi effect since its been awhile i hunt for it and no luck..i wanna pair it with the whammy pedal i jst got few days ago.
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still hestitae on getting which distortion pedal.....

@blacktrix
how about your zw-44? very impressive with the demo sound....may i know how much it cost now?

hmm...anymore demo sound of the zw-45 except the part in the 'Fire It Up' video?

gonna ask the price for both of the pedal on monday.....



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post Apr 1 2006, 10:00 PM

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Good luck finding the ZW-45..... really..... if you can find it... let me know.... I'm still looking for it.

And the Zw-44...... yeah...... it's freakin' awsome...... I use it to boost the Tube-Amp emulation on the GFX-5.... and wow... it can shake up the whole room.....

Not only that.... it's great for just general purpose blues style overdrive..... Like for Gary Moore's Still Got The Blues...... I use a delayed clean..... and then use the overdirve to just boost the signal..... Even if the overdrive is set on low...... it's just great for a signal booster....
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 1 2006, 10:00 PM)
Good luck finding the ZW-45..... really..... if you can find it... let me know.... I'm still looking for it.

And the Zw-44...... yeah...... it's freakin' awsome...... I use it to boost the Tube-Amp emulation on the GFX-5.... and wow... it can shake up the whole room.....

Not only that.... it's great for just general purpose blues style overdrive..... Like for Gary Moore's Still Got The Blues...... I use a delayed clean..... and then use the overdirve to just boost the signal..... Even if the overdrive is set on low...... it's just great for a signal booster....
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how grainy is the ZW-44?? i dono what word to use.... but SD-1 has this tubey, grainy sound..... which i really like ....
or maybe that comes from my amp ?
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post Apr 1 2006, 10:54 PM

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hmm...if i ask the music shop to order it from foreign country....how much should it cost?
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post Apr 2 2006, 12:29 AM

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ALOT..... you have to put down at least 50-70%..... and that's IF they can bring it in.

And the Zw-45...... it can be a quiet little blues crunch.......... right up to a Jet Engine that's on Steroids......
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I'm getting a Wah sounds alike 'Sweet Dream' by Marilyn Manson drool.gif
So metal sikit I should get the Wlyde Sig Wah ?
Where can I find it and how much is it roughly ? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 3 2007, 07:24 PM

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Wah..... Man.. this is an old thread...

Already have both the ZW-45 and ZW-44 since my last post here.....

Marilyn Manson Sweet Dreams? Best wah for Metal is still (to me) hands down the Crybaby from Hell..... should be around the RM800 range if you can find it. Very customizable, amazing sweep range and looks totally bad ass.

I got the Wylde Wah because I'm a Zakk Wylde fanatic...... and I don't like messing with the settings all that much.
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QUOTE(nerd @ Mar 29 2006, 05:32 PM)
but the Metal Zone reduces your tone to an airport runway, and it is not for use onstage or even band practice. and it makes ears bleed.
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this problem happens if you don't tweak it properly. MT-2 is quite flexible and versatile provide you know how to set it.
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Hahah hell yea old thread.. But since majority talking about Wah here.. I dont dare to open a thread about Wah again.. Later you guys rape me cry.gif Thanks Blacktrix for the info.. But RM800 since abit over budget.. Is GCB-95 okie for metal ? It's around my budget.. icon_question.gif

 

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