that's where your problem lies..

Hard to write down all details here..It is not the cost problem..I have paid 145K for everything which stated in the agreement either written or verbally willingly without owe him a single cent..the balance 5K is to protect myself..no choice..everybody also keep the balance for 3-6 months..

Everything is done after we reached agreement..the only regret is i trust him too much..should written in black and white..

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Added on July 1, 2011, 2:46 pmA consequence of a matter will result in different ending..

If he don't FREE, I won't do...I can go for other plan..
If he does FREE, I allocate the budget to do other thing..
After no budget allocated for the FREE, he requests money from me..

If you still think both is same, I accept your critizise..


This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jul 1 2011, 02:46 PM

ur regret is ur lesson. if u're able to negotiate the final decision, put it into an agreement, black n white.

This post has been edited by atih007: Jul 1 2011, 03:14 PM

After 4 pages of discussion, I still dont understand the issue. Like I said, it is only 3.3% of the total cost! It is the he says she says thing. If you dont itemized all the changes with variation orders, then you can argue until the cow come home still can't resolve.

I made it very clear to my subcon that any work started without me signing the variation order I will not pay for it because I would not have budgeted for it. That would be the "free work" thing. If you think that for RM150k, you can lump a lot of free work in there and without the clear understanding, then that's the issue.

professionally done bhtan

i think the majority here have spoken, and advised you to just move on. time is precious, more so your safety.

i think someone previously gave a good idea, pay him 5k for the pillars, the balance 5k pay after a few months if you have no other complaints.

This time get it down black n white.

Clear understanding already made during the process....All agreement already been done....the problem is he don't admit after done...

Example, 150K including building a staircase(free - Clear understanding + agreement has been done)..after staircase has built, one month later, request money of staircase from me...said the staircase cannot be free, need to pay money...


P/S: If you are contractor, will you build the staircase without any agreement before that? Can you manage to force a contractor to start doing for you FREE? unless I am a gangster and holding a knife....

It is not the agreement problem, not the communication problem, even not my problem because we already discussed and agreed each other..It is his integrity problem..his behaviour problem..

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jul 1 2011, 04:44 PM

give me the contractor's name and contact number. i settle for you.













just kidding of course. don't let the RM5k blind u. Focus on the WORK. Tell him to finished up the job and see the workmanship. If it's up to your expectation, then just pay him the RM5k for the good job he has done. Heck, you can even pay him more. Nothing beats the satisfaction of getting the renovation done nicely according to your requirement. After all, rich bloke like you sure can afford RM5k one mah

1) I am not satisfy with the workmanship
2) I am not satisfy with the his attitude and integrity
3) I am not rich
4) Just left one task and I only keep 5K..He won't listen to me because he already taken 145K...and right now he requests more money...So, the only token of negotiation power is 5K...

Free stairs? Whether it is concrete steps or wooden stairs, it would costs quite a bit to build one and you think he should give it to you for free? Honestly, just pay up and treat it as lessons learn. Unless you feel you are a bigger bully, then tell him to go fly kite.

What do you expect people in LYN to help you? Guard your house and protect you from harm?

hahaha. good one..

the problem is that he expects FREE things

I am sorry ... may be I am stupid or something ... if the quote that he gave you clearly stated that the work includes building a staircase then it is part of the scope. We have not seen your agreement but I would bet that your agreement did not included in the written scope of work. Again, in my sub cond proposal/quotation to me he would spell out EXACTLY what is he doing down to what rooms being built, which surfaces will have tiles, how many light points/powerpoints, number of windows and size of the windows and type of the windows. I just dont understand how can one argue on the staircase work being free or not. Clearly it can't be free but if it is not written as part of workscope but verbally agreed as part of RM150k, then it is an issue.

BTW, I hope your real profession is not Project Manager, i would never hire you!

I know everything should written in black and white...I know that I am wasting time here...anyway, thanks for your help along the way...

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Added on July 1, 2011, 6:55 pmI repeated a lot of time...If really quite a bit to build one why want to agree when I ask for free??

I think you all don't know what I mean...maybe my english is poor..

anyway, thanks for your help along the way....

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Added on July 1, 2011, 6:58 pmYes, I did requested for FREE..any problem? If he don't want, why still do for me? why don't reject me? Am I Najib so he has to say YES?

anyway, thanks for your help along the way....

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Added on July 1, 2011, 7:02 pmI repeat one more time....I DID NOT request for free AFTER he had done..I requested for free BEFORE he start to do....He AGREED to do for FREE...

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jul 1 2011, 07:03 PM

You are still expecting for FREE work from your contractor.
Nothing is FREE in this world.
Don't you get it? WAKE UP man. WAKE UP!!

Cut everything short. Save everyone's time.

You are right to the bone. Your contractor is wrong to the soil.

You don't need to pay him an extra dime. Tell him to get the F off. You'll get someone else to finish up the rest of the work.

This post has been edited by scorgio: Jul 1 2011, 10:04 PM

or just pay him the 5k he requested so that u and your family can stay in your new house without bad feeling/ fear and earn another 5k x 1000.. times instead of typing here

Don't need to pay la, use ur 5000 saving to make 5k x 1001 times instead!

TS,

You DO NOT UNDERSTAND something very simple here.

If you REFUSED to pay the extra 5K, can YOU get someone else to finish the job for 5K??

Yes or no?? That is the BOTTOM LINE...

As far as I know, no contractor will take on a 5K job. They will charge you a lot more..

Your decision is very simple. Pay 10K to finish everything with this person. Or, pay a lot more to some other contractor to finish work..

Now, if you DO NOT CARE to get the job done, then, you can go ahead and not paying...

YOU are penny wise and pound foolish.. After spending 145K, you are nick-picking 10K to make sure that the job is undone.. YOU are NOT the kind of person that ANYONE want to associate with.

Dreamer

P.S.: Don't BS us that you are a poor person. A poor person do not spend 150K on renovation.. You are just a CHEAP person out to take advantage of some people...


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jul 3 2011, 02:08 AM

Maybe TS is hoping that someone will donate him the money to finish the balance of work.

Alternatively, a donation drive among people from LYN to help him finish up the balance of his reno work?

I'm poor wor, how to donate

anyway, i think TS won't come back here d.....may be he will...with another nickname

The company's name? let us know so that we will not get cheated like you