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Headphones Headphone Amplifier and DAC Recommendation, portables, desktops, amps, dac, lai

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post Dec 6 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Dec 6 2011, 07:20 PM)
If my laptop sound start distorted at 50% of volume when I put on my headphone, I should get a DAC or an amp?
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Remember garbage in garbage out. You hear distortion at 50% using your headphone and that distorted sound may appear at 35% or 45% already but to little to hear it. Even with amp and put at 35% volume, the amp will amplified already distorted sound to higher level. You actually getting a worst results with extra cost.

You should get a replacement for your internal sound card. Which DAC is best candidate.

Also depend on the player you use.

For me if use sound card, foobar is the best. I have stop using itunes, winamp, media player classic and Wmp.

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post Dec 6 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Dec 6 2011, 07:20 PM)
If my laptop sound start distorted at 50% of volume when I put on my headphone, I should get a DAC or an amp?
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which headphone is distorting? if you're using with your lappie, why not get TTD? ^^

QUOTE(nordingh @ Dec 6 2011, 09:51 PM)
You should get a replacement for your internal sound card. Which DAC is best candidate.
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he will still need an amp after the DAC.

i know, i remember Yip. hehe that's why recommend TTD. he heard it already mah

from what you say, and if you're using the SRH-240, its probably not an amp/dac issue but you are having problem with the sound signature.

what you are hearing is probably the highs getting piercing and sibilant?

if this is the case, you can get a amp/dac to roll off the highs or change headphones.

i prefer using music to burn in rather than white/pink/brown noises. so that at any time i can just pick up the headphones, listen, before throwing it back to continue burning in. and i go for the kind of long burning in without stops. i burn in for 4-5days x 24hrs before a 12hours break and then another 4-5days.
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 6 2011, 10:32 PM)
he will still need an amp after the DAC.
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With T-muso no need amp...

BUT better to get DAC + AMP combo if have more RM.

I burn-in using electric stove. tongue.gif







(I just play any song I like and let it burn)

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post Dec 7 2011, 08:29 AM

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How many hours you burn it till now. Give it at least 50 hours to tame it, after that if not ok then go for another solution. My silver bullet also suffer the sharp high when newly bought, but now after exceed the 50 hours, it start to settled down.

Use the audio burner while you sleep, 7 hours per day+/-, within a week you can spot a difference.

More smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1809080&hl=

no problemo icon_rolleyes.gif

Hehe up to own personal preference. As long cooked any style will do. Slow, Fast, half baked, well done, etc tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 08:44 AM

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Thanks for the answer guys.

Perhaps I need to give further detail, is my Shure SRH 240, when in low volume, I like the detail, but when it come to 50% of the volume, the high is to sharp and start hurting my ears, should I get Fiio DAC+amp or just let go the headphone and look for something else?

QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 7 2011, 08:29 AM)
How many hours you burn it till now. Give it at least 50 hours to tame it, after that if not ok then go for another solution. My silver bullet also suffer the sharp high when newly bought, but now after exceed the 50 hours, it start to settled down.
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OK, then I might just give a month or two to let it settle down before I decided to sell it.


Added on December 7, 2011, 8:47 am
QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 7 2011, 08:31 AM)
from what you say, and if you're using the SRH-240, its probably not an amp/dac issue but you are having problem with the sound signature.

what you are hearing is probably the highs getting piercing and sibilant? 

if this is the case, you can get a amp/dac to roll off the highs or change headphones.
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That's what I think at the first place, the sound sig maybe not my taste.

Anyway, I will just keep it for some time and see what if the sound will change after 'burned-in'.

QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 7 2011, 08:51 AM)
Use the audio burner while you sleep, 7 hours per day+/-, within a week you can spot a difference.
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You mean pink noise and white noise?

QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 7 2011, 09:19 AM)
Thanks! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 7 2011, 09:24 AM)
i prefer using music to burn in rather than white/pink/brown noises. so that at any time i can just pick up the headphones, listen, before throwing it back to continue burning in. and i go for the kind of long burning in without stops. i burn in for 4-5days x 24hrs before a 12hours break and then another 4-5days.
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Will try this as well, LOL! biggrin.gif

Can you recommend something for my HD 598?

Currently pairing with Fiio E10, looking to drive it to the max, thx.

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post Dec 8 2011, 02:36 PM

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I want to ask whats the difference between a desktop amp and an inboard soundcard? Do they serve the same purpose? And lets say if i get a Beyerdynamics DT880 Pro, do i need a portable amp for it to play on my SGS 2?
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post Dec 9 2011, 06:14 PM

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i guess here is the right place for USB DAC recommendation?

i want to look for some cheap USB DAC for my laptop but i dont know how much budget i should allocate

and when i connect my laptop to my speaker amp via AUX, i can hear some static noise when i move my mouse and when i click, is this the problem with laptop sound processor not good enough? hmm.gif

but i dont have this problem with my desktop that is connected to speaker amp via red & white, and my desktop sound way better than my laptop which sound very muddy
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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 6 2011, 10:32 PM)
he will still need an amp after the DAC.
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yep, thats why i said get a DAC + amp combo est for him, btw he is a low budget person, did u forget? hongrui, we met him at KK meetup, the DSLR guy

QUOTE(nordingh @ Dec 6 2011, 10:54 PM)
With T-muso no need amp...

BUT better to get DAC + AMP combo if have more RM.
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that's why TTD

QUOTE(amduser @ Dec 9 2011, 06:14 PM)
i guess here is the right place for USB DAC recommendation?

i want to look for some cheap USB DAC for my laptop but i dont know how much budget i should allocate

and when i connect my laptop to my speaker amp via AUX, i can hear some static noise when i move my mouse and when i click, is this the problem with laptop sound processor not good enough? hmm.gif

but i dont have this problem with my desktop that is connected to speaker amp via red & white, and my desktop sound way better than my laptop which sound very muddy
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basically i think around RM200 and above should do the trick
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post Dec 9 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Dec 9 2011, 06:39 PM)
basically i think around RM200 and above should do the trick
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is there any less than 200 and around 100+? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Dec 9 2011, 06:14 PM)
i guess here is the right place for USB DAC recommendation?

i want to look for some cheap USB DAC for my laptop but i dont know how much budget i should allocate

and when i connect my laptop to my speaker amp via AUX, i can hear some static noise when i move my mouse and when i click, is this the problem with laptop sound processor not good enough? hmm.gif

but i dont have this problem with my desktop that is connected to speaker amp via red & white, and my desktop sound way better than my laptop which sound very muddy
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slevin sent's usb dac is running on full os-con(noise killa) http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1805482

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post Dec 10 2011, 01:04 AM

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someone pls recommend me good desktop dac/amp to pair with Alessandro MS1i...currently i have in mind:

Fiio E10
Musiland Monitor 02 US

i listen to classic rock, indie, alternative, punk, grunge, metal, electornica, rap etc...my ms1i sound too bright and i want to add some bass to it...currently not using any soundcard (onboard sound only)...budget below 400...
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with the SGS2, you will definitely need an amp, because the amp in the SGS2 as well as the Galaxy Pad 10.1 is pretty weak.

desktop amp usually more powerful than onboard sound card
desktop DAC better than onboard soundcard
desktop DAC less noisy than onboard soundcard as the hums from the spinning HDD has been isolated.

what kind of music do you listen to? what kind of improvement/changes are you looking for?

most importantly, your budget?

well i was gonna recommend you the TTD, but that will blow your budget out of the water. you can try the fiio e10, but me personally am not a fan of the fiios.
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hye guys! is there any amp that portable?how much it will cost me?
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post Dec 16 2011, 04:29 PM

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there certainly are portable amps. Check out cMoy, mini^3 and others from iBasso, Fiio, RSA, PICO ...

i think the cheapest cheapest amp is around RM100 and can go up to RM2000+.
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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 16 2011, 04:29 PM)
there certainly are portable amps. Check out cMoy, mini^3 and others from iBasso, Fiio, RSA, PICO ...

i think the cheapest cheapest amp is around RM100 and can go up to RM2000+.
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where can i find sir?
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post Dec 16 2011, 05:07 PM

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fiio: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2018414
cMoy: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1999456

beyond those, for RSA, iBasso, etc. etc., you can audition at Jaben
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post Dec 21 2011, 06:59 PM

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i have 4 speakers. 2 big ones at 70 watt 8ohm. 2 smaller ones at 15 watt 8 ohms. totalling 170 watt. 4 channel. no woofer.

need a new amp, i have no idea what to budget for. nothing more than rm1500 would be preferred.

this is for personal room use, connected to PC. would u guys recommend a sound card for the comp? lol
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post Dec 24 2011, 08:55 AM

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Dudes, need help. The HO of my Teclast T51 is getting worse and worse. The left side can sometimes be muffled and sometimes will produce a lot of noise. The LO is fine. So I'm thinking instead of ditching the T51 I'd get an amp for it.

Therefore I am looking for a portable amp. Very portable amp, so it has to be small and light an doesn't look silly when hooked up to the T51 and put inside my pocket. It has to be under RM200. Of course it has to have volume control as well. With or without EQ function, doesn't matter but would be a bonus.

Thinking of something like the E6 but I'm looking for others to consider as well. If anyone is letting go of theirs for a good price I'm willing to buy....in January though. tongue.gif But if it doesn't fit my criteria I won't buy them (like too big or something).

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post Dec 25 2011, 10:20 PM

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Guys , which portable amp suitable for my Sony MP3?

Thought about Fiio E5 and E6 , opinions? hmm.gif

Sony NWZ-B163F/R

Less RM100

I can add a bit more depending on situation ,

Just asking opinions for the Fiio E5 and E6

Rite , thinking of pairing the E6 with the sennheiser CX200 IEM earphones
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is Fiio e3 suitable for beginner like me ? btw, getting superlux HD661

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