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Hobbies Fishing Thread V9, Let the reels go crazy!

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post Jul 3 2011, 06:15 AM

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pulau ketam is near klang area ryte? If it is then ive been there. There are good placs there. Thats why as i said. You must know the types of fish. Which fish lives in which area. Using boat is the best bet. Fish with scales are always located near "batu karang" @ Coral's. In river also got corals. Fish without scales like ikan sembilang, ikan duri, those kind of fish loves muddy areas, Ikan pari @ stingray they love to hang around outside the "batu karang" cuz waiting for the fish to come out and play. So, for instance. If you are hunting kerapu. Find coral reefs. If you are hunting sembilang, wait for the water to run fast like when its in the middle of high tide not "pasang penuh" example. 8pm is when high tide meaning air penuh. so go around 6pm. but the water is fast so use a size 4 - 6 and also, tukak @ small stingray love those kind of water. If you were to hunt ikan tanda merah, kerapu, tirusan, its better to park where corals are located. You will surely get a bite. If you are hunting for stingray, park just before the coral reef or the "rumah ikan". Ok, now talk about baits. Muara @ river, the best is still prawns. Live prawns. The second i prefer is those little crabs, then belanak. Its better to prepare a few types of bait as fish tends to change thier diet depending on water tempreature. And then feeding times. Mostly fish are in a feeding frenzy when the water is just about to pasang. Example. 6.00pm water already low tide. 7.00pm water starting to come into the river. That is the best time as the sea brings diffrent type of food and the river banks where prawns live, fish will go there. Try my advice and sorry for my broken ENGLAND
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Last sat morning went for saltwater fish, only get a decent ketambak but so far that's my best. New fishing gear rocks, easily can pull the fish up.. dunno with bigger fish yet hehe

sat evening went for freshwater pond.. found out from the locals there, they call ikan gabus is actually the snakeheads, couldn't get chicken intestines so I used prawns, they bite bit but then went quiet.

Then i use the bait and pull back just like frog jumping in the water, the fish grabbed onto it 6 to 7 times but I couldn't land it cos it didn't swallow. I guess it may be good for some casting. Nite fishing totally no bite after an hour or so.. guess no catfish there..

the heavy rain from before, made it hard to get into that place, next time need a bigger hilux/4WD car, my kenari almost got stuck there in the mud.. thank God I didn't.. if not I am far away from home, that is a outskirt area, I was alone and my phone credit just went poof..my car looked like just out from some adventure after that smile.gif

hey guys, is pelamis brand reel a good one?

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post Jul 4 2011, 02:51 PM

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I have a pelamis reel too. Looks okay but kinda heavy.
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ic, i tried one of the pelamis (forgot model) 10+1 bearings, was quite smooth as the handle drops by itself and spins when hanging half way shows the smoothness, good drag as well i think
price was below rm100 even
any good review on it fellow fishing kakis?
QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jul 4 2011, 02:51 PM)
I have a pelamis reel too. Looks okay but kinda heavy.
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post Jul 4 2011, 09:02 PM

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Don't expect anything decent from a sub 100 buck reel and you'll be changing reel more often if you fish alot in saltwater. heheh what you pay what you get bro tongue.gif

other sifu sifu here use daiwa, shimano, avet, abu garcia and etc top brand kekekke one reel may cost from 400 ~3k. If you are serious with fishing.. kasi pain one time, no need buy so many chap ayam gears...straight away take shimano STELLA or daiwa Certate liou no need think so much tongue.gif
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aww ic.. hmm well this one just for spare lah. I tested the Pelamis vs Penn, totally can't compare with Penn even though Pelamis with 10 bearings and Penn with only 4 bearings

I wonder why Penn reels don't have reverse rotation? It can only go one way, there are no switch/lever that you can change it to reverse the rotation..

Sifu items sure diff ah.. Can't compare de. still not that level yet so not gonna spend that much. It's about weighing how much you're willing to spend and I'm just not gonna spend that much yet .. for now anyway hehe

who knows in the future yeah? when that time comes, yeah one time pain is better smile.gif

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post Jul 5 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Jul 4 2011, 09:02 PM)
Don't expect anything decent from a sub 100 buck reel and you'll be changing reel more often if you fish alot in saltwater. heheh what you pay what you get bro tongue.gif

other sifu sifu here use daiwa, shimano, avet, abu garcia and etc top brand kekekke one reel may cost from 400 ~3k. If you are serious with fishing.. kasi pain one time, no need buy so many chap ayam gears...straight away take shimano STELLA or daiwa Certate liou no need think so much tongue.gif
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yau mou.. this wan like.. getting a sports car for every use leh.. hahaha
shoot@m3, get a lower end daiwa is the best la.. like me, get a daiwa exceler for RM300. never fail to serve me.
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even exceller too much for me lor..
its ok i'll just get a cheapo setup this time smile.gif
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QUOTE(fookie @ Jul 5 2011, 11:54 AM)
yau mou.. this wan like.. getting a sports car for every use leh.. hahaha
shoot@m3, get a lower end daiwa is the best la.. like me, get a daiwa exceler for RM300. never fail to serve me.
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post Jul 5 2011, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Jul 5 2011, 11:54 AM)
yau mou.. this wan like.. getting a sports car for every use leh.. hahaha
shoot@m3, get a lower end daiwa is the best la.. like me, get a daiwa exceler for RM300. never fail to serve me.
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yeah ler unker spent too much on junk reel last time, those 100 buck mia spinning reel i think i had at least 8 of them or more as i lost count hahha all were either thrown away by my mom during spring cleaning or my cousin bungkus liou tongue.gif now whut's left inside my karchang box were just a freamsJ4500 and a ELF4000 for jigging sotong kekekke


Added on July 5, 2011, 2:23 pm
QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:03 PM)
even exceller too much for me lor..
its ok i'll just get a cheapo setup this time smile.gif
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not too much, those reel were durable, it's much more cheaper in the long run biggrin.gif

example, 100 buck reel, you use 1 year... bearing, drag, shaft, drag, spool condemn. Then you buy another 100 buck reel again and the same thing repeat n repeat until N year.. the amount spent on chap ayam reel may get you a very decent reel which could last you for quite some time. Those rm 300-500 daiwa/ shimano reel is good enough. Even my daiwa freamJ already about 4 years old and it's still rocks biggrin.gif



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i went to a paid fresh water pond to try and catch baung (pak sou kong) fish. use cacing as bait and cast near by only. tried 2 method...float with single hook and normal twin hook. that time at night very hard to see my damn float if got baung makan or not so i changed to twin hook. cast out and start to reel in super slowly and use my left hand to pull the string very sloooowly as in cm by cm....pulll long enough already no fish bite reel abit in and start to use hand to pull the string again.

Now here is the problem...i can feel nibble on rod but no hard bites. so im guessing its small fish below nibbling at it. did that same routine for 2 hours and no baung bite at all. beside me got 2 more fella doing the same thing as me...they also no bite and suddenly they get a bite they pull the baung in and after that no bite again for a long time. it was at night that time and fore sure baung was not eating like it should in the morning.

not sure if i am doing the same pulling string method correctly or not but how come i cannot get baung to bite? i can feel small nibble but no hard bites. those guys that use this method will know if the baung eat the bait and they will let the fish eat syok syok before hantam the fish to reel back. everytime i get a nibble i let go the string abit...and pull abit to see got feel or not...sometimes i feel got small nibble i let it go again. and then i will pull again the string and see if still got nibble or not but then no more nibble...and i reel back in and start the string pulling method again.

you guys tried this reel, pull string slow slow method before on baung? if you have how do u know if the baung eaten the bait already?some how this method is like how u play with live prawns for sea fish (eg sea lion pond). Lots of people use this method at paid fresh water pond and yet get lots of bites (mostly i see is in the day time only baung eat alot).

hope ya guys can teach me some tricks how to get baung to eat my bait and know when baung really taken the bait. im not that pro at fresh water fishing yet

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ah icic, yeah makes sense.. good advices from those who already went thru
the thing is also, most beginner would not know if they are going to stay long in this hobby, thus would not spend that much at first, but that said, can still sell off for 2nd hand

Yeap, i get what you mean. i will sure upgrade in the future if got chance and if I'm already really into fishing smile.gif
For now I just get what I need first then

thx for all the input and advices biggrin.gif
It's only tuesday and I can't stop thinking about weekends haha, must be from stressful job
Just talked to a colleague, if got chance we might go for a day trip boat fishing near some Pulau here in Kota Kinabalu. We'll see how it goes. Fellow Sabahan, if you're interested, drop me a line cos we may need few people to go hehe
Long live fishing!
QUOTE(nicotine @ Jul 5 2011, 02:18 PM)
yeah ler unker spent too much on junk reel last time, those 100 buck mia spinning reel i think i had at least 8 of them or more as i lost count hahha all were either thrown away by my mom during spring cleaning or my cousin bungkus liou tongue.gif now whut's left inside my karchang box were just a freamsJ4500 and a ELF4000 for jigging sotong kekekke


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not too much, those reel were durable, it's much more cheaper in the long run biggrin.gif

example, 100 buck reel, you use 1 year... bearing, drag, shaft, drag, spool condemn. Then you buy another 100 buck reel again and the same thing repeat n repeat until N year..  the amount spent on chap ayam reel may get you a very decent reel which could last you for quite some time. Those rm 300-500 daiwa/ shimano reel is good enough. Even my daiwa freamJ already about 4 years old and it's still rocks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:51 PM)
ah icic, yeah makes sense.. good advices from those who already went thru
the thing is also, most beginner would not know if they are going to stay long in this hobby, thus would not spend that much at first, but that said, can still sell off for 2nd hand

Yeap, i get what you mean. i will sure upgrade in the future if got chance and if I'm already really into fishing smile.gif
For now I just get what I need first then

thx for all the input and advices biggrin.gif
It's only tuesday and I can't stop thinking about weekends haha, must be from stressful job
Just talked to a colleague, if got chance we might go for a day trip boat fishing near some Pulau here in Kota Kinabalu. We'll see how it goes. Fellow Sabahan, if you're interested, drop me a line cos we may need few people to go hehe
Long live fishing!
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dont think so le bro . guess what i have a tica reel which fall under 100 buck reel and it been serving me more thn 6 year !!!!!!! , but i didnt use it in between the 3 year le , so equally 3 year of usage !!!! and yet it serve me well untill now ....... when im back in to the game i brought another 3 reel . 2 ajiking under rm 100 & okuma below 200 .

still in tip top condition now . it depend how you guy taking care of the thing men .


Added on July 5, 2011, 3:31 pmthe only thing i would not suggest is to buy those chap ayam brand .

chap ayam brand is the worse case senario . noneed half year problem will start to come out d .

atleast Rm50 and above reel for 1k series . just my opinion .

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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:51 PM)
ah icic, yeah makes sense.. good advices from those who already went thru
the thing is also, most beginner would not know if they are going to stay long in this hobby, thus would not spend that much at first, but that said, can still sell off for 2nd hand

Yeap, i get what you mean. i will sure upgrade in the future if got chance and if I'm already really into fishing smile.gif
For now I just get what I need first then

thx for all the input and advices biggrin.gif
It's only tuesday and I can't stop thinking about weekends haha, must be from stressful job
Just talked to a colleague, if got chance we might go for a day trip boat fishing near some Pulau here in Kota Kinabalu. We'll see how it goes. Fellow Sabahan, if you're interested, drop me a line cos we may need few people to go hehe
Long live fishing!
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beginner .. you need to wait for your final poison injection only... a damn big fish that make ya adrenaline pumping tongue.gif

I kena poison by hookin up a 4kg plus angjoh on strong current, using #18 lead sinker, the depth was about 220ft. A fight which I couldn't forget until now laugh.gif



QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jul 5 2011, 03:24 PM)
dont think so le bro . guess what i have a tica reel which fall under 100 buck reel and it been serving me more thn 6 year !!!!!!! , but i didnt use it in between the 3 year le , so equally 3 year of usage !!!! and yet it serve me well untill now ....... when im back in to the game i brought another 3 reel . 2 ajiking under rm 100 & okuma below 200 .

still in tip top condition now . it depend how you guy taking care of the thing men .


Added on July 5, 2011, 3:31 pmthe only thing i would not suggest is to buy those chap ayam brand .

chap ayam brand is the worse case senario . noneed half year problem will start to come out d .

atleast Rm50 and above reel for 1k series . just my opinion .
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tica n ajiking belong to capayam group meh ? lol I thought tica were created by some ex shimano fellas. Anyway those cheap reel with anti rust/ weather sealed bearing should be ok, but those without anti rust on bearing after few round use on saltwater... no need wait for a year already can say bye bye liou.. coz it somehow transformed into cement mixer tongue.gif


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QUOTE(barney @ Jul 5 2011, 02:50 PM)
i went to a paid fresh water pond to try and catch baung (pak sou kong) fish. use cacing as bait and cast near by only. tried 2 method...float with single hook and normal twin hook. that time at night very hard to see my damn float if got baung makan or not so i changed to twin hook. cast out and start to reel in super slowly and use my left hand to pull the string very sloooowly as in cm by cm....pulll long enough already no fish bite reel abit in and start to use hand to pull the string again.

Now here is the problem...i can feel nibble on rod but no hard bites. so im guessing its small fish below nibbling at it. did that same routine for 2 hours and no baung bite at all. beside me got 2 more fella doing the same thing as me...they also no bite and suddenly they get a bite they pull the baung in and after that no bite again for a long time. it was at night that time and fore sure baung was not eating like it should in the morning.

not sure if i am doing the same pulling string method correctly or not but how come i cannot get baung to bite? i can feel small nibble but no hard bites. those guys that use this method will know if the baung eat the bait and they will let the fish eat syok syok before hantam the fish to reel back. everytime i get a nibble i let go the string abit...and pull abit to see got feel or not...sometimes i feel got small nibble i let it go again. and then i will pull again the string and see if still got nibble or not but then no more nibble...and i reel back in and start the string pulling method again.

you guys tried this reel, pull string slow slow method before on baung? if you have how do u know if the baung eaten the bait already?some how this method is like how u play with live prawns for sea fish (eg sea lion pond). Lots of people use this method at paid fresh water pond and yet get lots of bites (mostly i see is in the day time only baung eat alot).

hope ya guys can teach me some tricks how to get baung to eat my bait and know when baung really taken the bait. im not that pro at fresh water fishing yet
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have you tried bottom method ? those fella loves earth worms.

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lol cap ayam... i use daiwa D wave 50003bi, okuma halogen LX and daiwa opusbull reels. Cheap but strong.. that Daiwa D Wave catch ikan talang2 at 9kg very easy to land. That okuma halogen caught its heaviest 4kg kerapu. That opusbull no need say la... we all know the strength. My rods are Lemax Firestick Limited Edition PE 4 - 6, Ofmer hammerjig pe 2 - 4 and Shakespere Uglystick tiger (old model from my father giv) to use to go saltwater fishing.. Ok la.. Still consider below RM300 per reel and serves me good. After fishing in saltwater, i normaly wash my reels and 1 in 3 month i send them in for servicing. Pelamis is just good for freshwater. For saltwater, find something that has a solid body, aloi, u noe, those non rusty equipment. And they can be found at cheap price like my daiwa D Wave 50003Bi cost me only RM230. My daiwa opusbull cost RM290. My okuma Halogen LX cost me RM255. See, nothing above RM300.
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no la brada ....... " not " tica or ajiking.

chap ayam really chap ayam mia brand . with wierd wierd name one .

maybe my gramma mistake ... heheh sorry ya .

for me " tica " and " ajiking " belong to mid end user .


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:02 pmmy side i have nothing more thn Rm200 wahahahahahahhaaha . and it serve me so well untill now .


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:05 pmFor me ya ....... tomman is a low end brand and almost fall under chap ayam brand wahahahahha .

so you know what i mean chap ayama wahahahah

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Team TICA is diffrent story. Those are expensive reels. Ajiking the only powerfull reels are (personaly own before) Jigmaster and thier WAHOO 6000. that Wahoo 6000 is a 30KG drag. and that Ajiking Jigmaster can reel with ease number 24 lead. even a shimano also release thier cheap product. Dosent mean that the brand of stuff and its cheap will be consider bullcrap stuff. Every company have thier flagship for example. Daiwa Saltiga? Shimano sustain PE, Ajiking Wahoo, Tomman Jerker 8000 (cant find it now), banax kairos,
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QUOTE(HeLLonEarTH @ Jul 5 2011, 05:56 PM)
lol cap ayam... i use daiwa D wave 50003bi, okuma halogen LX and daiwa opusbull reels. Cheap but strong.. that Daiwa D Wave catch ikan talang2 at 9kg very easy to land. That okuma halogen caught its heaviest 4kg kerapu. That opusbull no need say la... we all know the strength. My rods are Lemax Firestick Limited Edition PE 4 - 6, Ofmer hammerjig pe 2 - 4 and Shakespere Uglystick tiger (old model from my father giv) to use to go saltwater fishing.. Ok la.. Still consider below RM300 per reel and serves me good. After fishing in saltwater, i normaly wash my reels and 1 in 3 month i send them in for servicing. Pelamis is just good for freshwater. For saltwater, find something that has a solid body, aloi, u noe, those non rusty equipment. And they can be found at cheap price like my daiwa D Wave 50003Bi cost me only RM230. My daiwa opusbull cost RM290. My okuma Halogen LX cost me RM255. See, nothing above RM300.
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brudda opusbull now where can get under 300 ler??? i think 3-5 years ago can la but now it should park under the 350 buck range liou tongue.gif
gua mia freamJ 4500 cost me about RM280 when i bought it before the major price hike .. now the pricing should be around 400 liou but different mumbo jumbo design ler. The last i check for pricing was last Jan now tarak sure.

QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jul 5 2011, 06:00 PM)
no la brada ....... " not " tica or ajiking. 

chap ayam really chap ayam mia brand . with wierd wierd name one .

maybe my gramma mistake ... heheh sorry ya .

for me " tica " and " ajiking " belong to mid end user .


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:02 pmmy side i have nothing more thn Rm200 wahahahahahahhaaha . and it serve me so well untill now .


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:05 pmFor me ya ....... tomman is a low end brand and almost fall under chap ayam brand wahahahahha .

so you know what i mean chap ayama wahahahah
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hahaa i know chap ayam brand and I wont ever buy cap ayam again. I dont care how many hundred bearing they have but mostly tipu mia when you disassemble the reel straight away can see max 3 bearing + 1 anti reverse and 1 line roller bearing only tongue.gif



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yeah...those twin hooks are for bottom and on earth worms and i purposely put alot on the hook. get nimble only and that also i think is small fishes kacao. how la wanna catch baung fish like that if dunno technique right or wrong
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Good Day!

u guys know where's the best spot to catch jaguar cichlid a.k.a kerapu lombong?



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