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 Are property prices going to up further? V3

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post Jul 30 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jul 30 2011, 09:35 AM)
Example: your bosses get richer; you are getting poorer. Lol
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successful boses = 5% .... we can said they r rich...
employee = 95% .... u should know the answer....

definately cannot compare like that lah...


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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 30 2011, 09:36 AM)
today will see a tussle of crowd between those who opt for landed in glenmarie or highrise in ttdi.
both same day preview.
am guessing bbb is still very alife in this two projects.
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actually... the data is important... i hope the condo are sapu within 1 or 2 days time.... then the 1997 pattern will be repeated if nothing goes wrong....

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post Jul 30 2011, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jul 30 2011, 09:51 AM)
Lol... Why u so confident the 97 pattern will be repeated? And When you expected? Any suggestion data?
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pls spend some times to read news from internet.... below is just 1 among the hundred news... k

http://www.npr.org/2011/07/29/138838318/ho...ing?ft=1&f=1006

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post Jul 31 2011, 11:02 AM

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Good News!!!
next year there is no double dip recession by theory...

Bad News!!!
It is just another series of recession over the coming years... as the similar recession from 2008 will repeat again in 2012 and the years to come... so it is not just happen twice, but few times... so cannot call double dip, rather series of recession.. i think pattern could be VVVVV and not W.

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post Aug 1 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 1 2011, 12:46 AM)
can expect no default, raise debt ceiling to buy some time, deep cuts in budget.
possibility remains credit rating downgraded, rates go up, consumption reduced, import less, global trade slows.
this flu will have some effect on all trading partners. not possible usa or mareasia or anybody can keep borrowing and consume forever.
let's just hope this flu will not develop into pneumonia too quickly to allow the prop party here to go on a bit longer, "soft landing".
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debt ceiling will be raise... us gomen dun 1 to blame by others.... so no hard landing.. But, prepared for soft landing over years...

Note: soft landing in us.. maybe hard landing in asia..

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post Aug 2 2011, 05:41 PM

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post Aug 5 2011, 08:33 AM

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yesterday... i watch a movie in astro... the story is a big shipping company going to bankrupt, but the boss use the strategy by increasing the shipping rate in order to create the demand-over-supply issue... finally, their regular 3 big clients continue their contract because the clients scare of their products cannot be ship even they willing to pay higher service charge...

The senario is similar with the prop market in the world (except, US)...

Sooner or later... the prices range will reflect to the actual market condition... someone may said [B]this time is different[cool.gif.
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post Aug 5 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:06 AM)
Don worry...we r in bolehand...sure can tahan......

U c this morning -35pts ...now recover to -18pts........

KlSE mainly play by local fund manager...as long as they r not exit from the game......the party will still on.......it wouldn't drop badly
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hopefully it can hold till GE to come..... hehe.
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post Aug 5 2011, 03:39 PM

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manufacturing sector slowdown due to us cut spending > factory cut production (worldwide) > stock crash (worldwide) > lost jobs in product export related sector to us (direct/indirect) > no $$ to service loan > financial institute or relator sector get trouble, lost jobs to this sector as well > prop bust... > bankrupt for certain ppl > social problem increases...

This senario will take at least 2 years to complete STARTED NOW and repeated from times to times over years.
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Aug 5 2011, 04:39 PM)
manufacturing sector slowdown due to us cut spending > factory cut production (worldwide) > stock crash (worldwide) > lost jobs in product export related sector to us (direct/indirect) > no $$ to service loan > financial institute or relator sector get trouble, lost jobs to this sector as well > prop bust... > bankrupt for certain ppl > social problem increases...

This senario will take at least 2 years to complete STARTED NOW and repeated from times to times over years.
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additional end result of the senario..... u can get cheaper products (from shoe to real estate)... as too much products (why? because the factory cannot close all.. they still sell products, with CHEAP)... a supply-over-demand issue will be created in sudden...

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post Aug 5 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(yoki @ Aug 5 2011, 09:27 PM)
Need more correction..... The waiting game has just started.... See who got more patient seller or buyers
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human behaviour is react slowly to the recession.. this is natural law.... that is y more patient is needed..
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post Aug 8 2011, 10:54 AM

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it is not yet declare officially.. that is y... ur dun felt it....

2008 recession declare officially when ci drop to below 900.. together with dj at 9000...

but, declaration will be sooner this round as job cut is serious then 2008 this time...


BBB... pls so on.. at least got someone can do some charity who can support economic... hehe..
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(dreamadream @ Aug 9 2011, 12:01 AM)
stock markets in Europe and US continued to fall on 8 August.
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speculators will push it till crash.... global recession is not too far away...
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post Aug 11 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 11 2011, 03:08 AM)
again talk easy, action susah lor...
I remembered when KLSE CI dropped < 300 mark (1998), the mkt sentiment wasn't that healthy as wat we can imagine now....
People were talking bout like end of world already, would central bank koyak or not, would RM become fake note? shd migrat or not? Maybank / Public Bank would "close shop" or not..bla bla bla, Now look back those statements sounds a bit silly, but it really reflex how the overall mkt fear & feel insecure wat happening.

Try to imagine, wat will make CI drops back to 300 mark?
I can think of War, Riot 513, Mega Earthquake etc.. only, by that time, you won't be so calm  wink.gif
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some more maya theory we need to face in 2012... 2012 is a year full of exciting nod.gif


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post Aug 11 2011, 09:34 PM

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ic.. that mean it will fall back to the levels of 4 yrs and 11 months ago lah... hehe
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post Aug 11 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:07 PM)
From your note, KLCC this high end area is not suitable to you. also a lot of local people. lol...include me la... tongue.gif

Guys might know which gf is suitable to be their life partners (wives), but some are always not.

Property is like a gf for the guy. Some are suitable for own-sayed but some might be for investment purposes.  laugh.gif but still, have to depend on how "powerful" you're.
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ppl treat house as their gf.... then married to house... no wonder cn population is dropping like no tomorrow...
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post Aug 12 2011, 10:11 AM

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my prediction in yr 2012

QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 12 2011, 10:34 AM)
some pointers for debates.

property going up:
1. a lot have been saying foreign investors have not been swooping up our property because not attractive enough. can you imagine when the chinese, middle easterners, westerners does sapu. [ not confirm]

2. high income nation as aspired by our politicians.  rolleyes.gif [not confirm]

3. improve infrastructure. mrt, high speed rail, etc.[not confirm]

4. inflation[not confirm]

5. increase in construction cost and/or land price  nod.gif [ not confirm]


property going down:
1. recession [confirm]
2. pull out of existing FDI[confirm]

3. political turmoil[confirm]

4. decrease in construction cost and/or land price  hmm.gif [confirm]

5. Maya Theory nod.gif [ not confirm]



giving the above, which do you think have a higher chance of beating the other?
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:58 PM

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put $$ in wawasan 2020 is guarantee above 6 %... not need to worry the tenant run way.... big investment like shop at least 8%...

overall commercial prop like shop lot will be less attractive in coming years.... ppl spending will be concentrate on the daily need... tesco, econsave, giant... will be doing good... except the shop use for servicing like car workshop... how much ur rental... 2nd floor mostly is empty....
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:07 PM)
What is the maximum units you can buy in wawasan tuapulupulu?
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can said all the gov related fund is above 6%... check urself...
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:15 PM)
lol...and you are a so tiny investor only lo. coz you cannot buy 100k cash unit or 1mil cash unit. 10k cash unit can la. and i don't think got capital appreciation lo.

6%, you need at least 16.67 years to double your capital.

7%, you need at least 14 years to double the capital.
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u dun read my word... GUARANTEE 6%.... RISK FREE... do i ever mention wawasan 2020 is good investment???!!!

hehe...

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