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dorinyeah
post Jun 24 2011, 01:06 PM

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Dunno y, after 1k service, i found my car fc become higher....
or due to i change to caltex and esso??
before 1k i use petronas.
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post Jun 24 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 24 2011, 12:47 PM)
Why change earlier than its due date, waste? Just save more now to spend on 80K servicing.
because, last service also early, not to mention heavy usage for last 6k for last 2 weeks, i think the car deserve to get what it should get... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 24 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 01:06 PM)
Dunno y, after 1k service, i found my car fc become higher....
or due to i change to caltex and esso??
before 1k i use petronas.
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Check your right foot. Is it on plaster cast? tongue.gif
KNN!! Just now at roundabout, stupid red iswara try to cut me in front from right to exit.
Want to cut, cut from behind lah. Expecting me to stop in the middle of the road to let you go meh. mad.gif mad.gif

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armadasaxon
post Jun 24 2011, 01:39 PM

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Have anyone change the wheel bearing b4?izzit under warranty ah?
dorinyeah
post Jun 24 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 24 2011, 01:26 PM)
Check your right foot. Is it on plaster cast?  tongue.gif
KNN!! Just now at roundabout, stupid red iswara try to cut me in front from right to exit.
Want to cut, cut from behind lah. Expecting me to stop in the middle of the road to let you go meh. mad.gif  mad.gif
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hmm.gif maybe my right foot problem...
before 1k i dun over 3k rpm...
now always over and keep thinking want to rev...
someone told me after 1k service must rev ur engine, else later the car no power...
must train the engine wow.... flex.gif
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post Jun 24 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Proactive auto parts @ Jun 24 2011, 12:16 PM)
sorry r boss.. now i get some of the idea d..
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come TT lot of sifu are willing to share .....
dorinyeah
post Jun 24 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Jun 24 2011, 01:53 PM)
come TT lot of sifu are willing to share .....
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ready to get poison gao gao! drool.gif
Cavino
post Jun 24 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 01:45 PM)
hmm.gif maybe my right foot problem...
before 1k i dun over 3k rpm...
now always over and keep thinking want to rev...
someone told me after 1k service must rev ur engine, else later the car no power...
must train the engine wow.... flex.gif
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Sure or not after 1K, rev. That is old school. Don't know if it applies to current engine. I will not purposely rev until at least over 3-5K mileage. Normal driving exceeding 3K ok lah but not revving. Probably will retain 100-110 km/h at most for the next 4K. Not sure if those metal particle still around, so just let engine work out steadily first.

After my 1K service, immediately car slightly more vibration. But as i finished abt 100km, it smoothen out again and now seems to be stronger than before (or I'm getting used it driving/accelerating within its torque limit). My FC just hit 12km/l, up from prev 11km/l. Some car noise disappear, other new sound appears.

Still got neck and shoulder muscle ache. Don't really know why, maybe its the seat vs the steering wheel, just cannot get the right feel. Notice the seat back bend more to the front than my other ride and the heatrest is also angled to the front steeper than other rides. I usually sit straighter than most ppls while driving, prob the bends and more smaller shoulder rest makes my shoulder bend forward unlike other ride where I can rest mostly straight on the shoulder. Thats the only problem I have with persona (besides noise). Really enjoy driving it esp on the highway.

Notice if rev above 100km/h, really makan petrol but if retain 80-90....FC is steadily improving.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jun 24 2011, 01:58 PM
dorinyeah
post Jun 24 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 24 2011, 01:57 PM)
Sure or not after 1K, rev. That is old school. Don't know if it applies to current engine. I will not purposely rev until at least over 3-5K mileage. Normal driving exceeding 3K ok lah but not revving. Probably will retain 100-110 km/h at most for the next 4K. Not sure if those metal particle still around, so just let engine work out steadily first.

After my 1K service, immediately car slightly more vibration. But as i finished abt 100km, it smoothen out again and now seems to be stronger than before (or I'm getting used it driving/accelerating within its torque limit). My FC just hit 12km/l, up from prev 11km/l. Some car noise disappear, other new sound appears.

Still got neck and shoulder muscle ache. Don't really know why, maybe its the seat vs the steering wheel, just cannot get the right feel. Notice the seat back bend more to the front than my other ride and the heatrest is also angled to the front steeper than other rides. I usually sit straighter than most ppls while driving, prob the bends and more smaller shoulder rest makes my shoulder bend forward unlike other ride where I can rest mostly straight on the shoulder. Thats the only problem I have with persona (besides noise). Really enjoy driving it esp on the highway.

Notice if rev above 100km/h, really makan petrol but if retain 80-90....FC is steadily improving.
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urs is auto/manual ah? may be i need to try control my right foot...

any1 face this while pump petrol, the host auto stop. then i start my car, the meter is not really full.
still got some only reach full. y ah? sensor problem?
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post Jun 24 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Jun 24 2011, 01:39 PM)
My Persona not even 1 year , have changed:
1.Air con middle vent
2.Coil
3.regulator power window
4.rubber hose
5.boot lock rosak
6.hon replace new
7.water leaking into the car
8.16k km change spark plug
9.Carriage problem
10.Radio steering button kookoo
11.Engine tuning due to car hard to start
12.Now bearing problem
13.More to come
Best car award?..I dun think so.
I know its not BMW,but its not FREE either. This is driving me NUTS!!
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hey, some of the problem is what i'm facing now, the middle air con got noise coming out, and sometimes the engine cant start on 1st time, and sometimes it took 3 or 4 attempts! summore, my engine will just die off even if i gently lift off my clutch when waiting for traffic light!
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post Jun 24 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(NSX_MY @ Jun 24 2011, 10:15 AM)
on the same day, and they now fixing my sub oil-leaked problem as well. there goes my whole morning..... knn sien now...
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Wah i also want to go change my IAFM there wor like this.. XD

QUOTE(Proactive auto parts @ Jun 24 2011, 10:31 AM)
ohh.. thanks ya bro.. if i wan install the muffler, how much would the market price ya? another question, would it effect the performance pick up or top speed if i install the body kit?
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Bodykit is to improve high speed handling.. But the bodykit on Persona are designed for cantik looking only. serves no purpose. If u change muffler u just change the sound only.. no performance increase..

QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Jun 24 2011, 12:04 PM)
erm question,  hmm.gif  if 80k service cost a lot, is it possible at 75k or 70k we bring earlier some of the service items from 80K's?

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U can save up to change everything 1 shot at 80k..
U can save on changing spark plugs if u change to Denso Iridium now.
U no need to pay for air filter if u change to Works Engineering Drop-in Air filter now..
The main thing the 80k service is expensive is cos of the timing belt package and changing the oil seals..

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 01:06 PM)
Dunno y, after 1k service, i found my car fc become higher....
or due to i change to caltex and esso??
before 1k i use petronas.
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U test esso/ caltex now.. Then later next tank u try with Petronas.. See got improvement.. Mostly its due to driving style.. Or not its the bugger SC pour all 4L of engine oil in for u.. Causing ur engine to be heavier and FC shooting up.

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 02:04 PM)
urs is auto/manual ah? may be i need to try control my right foot...

any1 face this while pump petrol, the host auto stop. then i start my car, the meter is not really full.
still got some only reach full. y ah? sensor problem?
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Its the petrol pump the sensor on the nozzle there problem.. Some petrol stations will auto stop very early. Some stop very late.. It depends lah..
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post Jun 24 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 02:41 PM)
Wah i also want to go change my IAFM there wor like this.. XD
Bodykit is to improve high speed handling.. But the bodykit on Persona are designed for cantik looking only. serves no purpose. If u change muffler u just change the sound only.. no performance increase..
U can save up to change everything 1 shot at 80k..
U can save on changing spark plugs if u change to Denso Iridium now.
U no need to pay for air filter if u change to Works Engineering Drop-in Air filter now..
The main thing the 80k service is expensive is cos of the timing belt package and changing the oil seals..
U test esso/ caltex now.. Then later next tank u try with Petronas.. See got improvement.. Mostly its due to driving style.. Or not its the bugger SC pour all 4L of engine oil in for u.. Causing ur engine to be heavier and FC shooting up.
Its the petrol pump the sensor on the nozzle there problem.. Some petrol stations will auto stop very early. Some stop very late.. It depends lah..
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may be lor...next tank put petronas and try...

i did check my engine oil, ngam ngam reach the Max line...ok??
reach max will coz fc up? rclxub.gif

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post Jun 24 2011, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 02:50 PM)
may be lor...next tank put petronas and try...

i did check my engine oil, ngam ngam reach the Max line...ok??
reach max will coz fc up? rclxub.gif
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Nope.. Ngam ngam max line then its just perfect.. Not more or not less..
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post Jun 24 2011, 03:04 PM

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Need to gather some info from the PE owner here.

1. Does your door-open indicator (the red icon) lit up when your rear boot not closing properly.

2. Same question as number 1, but with front bonnet open. Does it lit up or not?

Mine a H-Line wink.gif So best if H-Line owner can lend a hand here.
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post Jun 24 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 02:41 PM)
Bodykit is to improve high speed handling.. But the bodykit on Persona are designed for cantik looking only. serves no purpose. If u change muffler u just change the sound only.. no performance increase..

U can save on changing spark plugs if u change to Denso Iridium now.
U no need to pay for air filter if u change to Works Engineering Drop-in Air filter now..

U test esso/ caltex now.. Then later next tank u try with Petronas.. See got improvement.. Mostly its due to driving style.. Or not its the bugger SC pour all 4L of engine oil in for u.. Causing ur engine to be heavier and FC shooting up.

Its the petrol pump the sensor on the nozzle there problem.. Some petrol stations will auto stop very early. Some stop very late.. It depends lah..
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Almost all 3rd party bk outside cantik only. Those designed and comes pre-installed directly from factory like evo, etc only got use since they might go thru wind tunnel test (forgot, i think its call that kua)..to prove the downforce, etc.

How much are the denso iridium...persona specs, I assume. Cheaper than outside kah? Maybe buy now then 1.5-2 years later only fix (after at 40K mileage after FOC 20K change).

Drop-in Filter need cleaning and re-oiling manually. Darn lazy to even wash car, no way I'm going to do re-oiling. Secondly, the performance will degrade once re-oiling as we could never achieve the original perfect factory oiling performance. Thats why I resist using drop-in for my city.

CoSE also used up all 4 liters says its standard (SA says they always filled 4 liters). I have not check the oil level yet. The manual indicated 4 liters tho, with 3.7 liters in engine and 0.3 liters in oil filter. Maybe if put in engine treatment then exceed.


Added on June 24, 2011, 3:07 pm
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 02:50 PM)
may be lor...next tank put petronas and try...

i did check my engine oil, ngam ngam reach the Max line...ok??
reach max will coz fc up? rclxub.gif
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I don't think you need to check petronas, etc. Its becoz you started revving above 3K rpm. Anything going above 3K rpm for Persona, sure makan minyak compared to below. Its common knowledge driving below 100km is best for FC.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jun 24 2011, 03:07 PM
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post Jun 24 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 24 2011, 03:04 PM)
Need to gather some info from the PE owner here.

1. Does your door-open indicator (the red icon) lit up when your rear boot not closing properly.

2. Same question as number 1, but with front bonnet open. Does it lit up or not?

Mine a H-Line wink.gif So best if H-Line owner can lend a hand here.
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Nope.. The light wont turn on.. happens many times to me.. Didnt know that the boot was opened until when u lock the car that time then it wont lock.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 24 2011, 03:05 PM)
Almost all 3rd party bk outside cantik only. Those designed and comes pre-installed directly from factory like evo, etc only got use since they might go thru wind tunnel test (forgot, i think its call that kua)..to prove the downforce, etc.

How much are the denso iridium...persona specs, I assume. Cheaper than outside kah? Maybe buy now then 1.5-2 years later only fix (after at 40K mileage after FOC 20K change).

Drop-in Filter need cleaning and re-oiling manually. Darn lazy to even wash car, no way I'm going to do re-oiling. Secondly, the performance will degrade once re-oiling as we could never achieve the original perfect factory oiling performance. Thats why I resist using drop-in for my city.

CoSE also used up all 4 liters says its standard (SA says they always filled 4 liters). I have not check the oil level yet. The manual indicated 4 liters tho, with 3.7 liters in engine and 0.3 liters in oil filter. Maybe if put in engine treatment  then exceed.


Added on June 24, 2011, 3:07 pm

I don't think you need to check petronas, etc. Its becoz you started revving above 3K rpm. Anything going above 3K rpm for Persona, sure makan minyak compared to below. Its common knowledge driving below 100km is best for FC.
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yeah Persona Specs.. 1 set RM160.. in sunway the retail price is 200.. and mine is guaranteed original cos i take from Denso Malaysia directly..

Works engineering drop in no need to reoil.. re-oiling is optional due to the fibre mesh in the middle which filters as well as OEM paper filters but with higher airflow.. Researched those problems b4 deciding on the Works engineering drop-in..
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 03:14 PM)
Nope.. The light wont turn on.. happens many times to me.. Didnt know that the boot was opened until when u lock the car that time then it wont lock.
cipet proton.

wei, front and rear also same??? !%^!@$
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post Jun 24 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 03:14 PM)
Nope.. The light wont turn on.. happens many times to me.. Didnt know that the boot was opened until when u lock the car that time then it wont lock.
yeah Persona Specs.. 1 set RM160.. in sunway the retail price is 200.. and mine is guaranteed original cos i take from Denso Malaysia directly..

Works engineering drop in no need to reoil.. re-oiling is optional due to the fibre mesh in the middle which filters as well as OEM paper filters but with higher airflow.. Researched those problems b4 deciding on the Works engineering drop-in..
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definitely will take filter , spark plug and the blardy soft brake pad betul betul useless...
run 500km is dirty like run 2-3k... change vmad.gif change vmad.gif change vmad.gif
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 24 2011, 03:21 PM)
cipet proton.

wei, front and rear also same??? !%^!@$
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Yeah.. When ur bonnet is open u wont see any light indication.. Its when u lock ur cars only the alarm wont lock.. same like the boot.
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post Jun 24 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 03:14 PM)
Nope.. The light wont turn on.. happens many times to me.. Didnt know that the boot was opened until when u lock the car that time then it wont lock.
yeah Persona Specs.. 1 set RM160.. in sunway the retail price is 200.. and mine is guaranteed original cos i take from Denso Malaysia directly..

Works engineering drop in no need to reoil.. re-oiling is optional due to the fibre mesh in the middle which filters as well as OEM paper filters but with higher airflow.. Researched those problems b4 deciding on the Works engineering drop-in..
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The last time I notice the red alarm led (in middle of console) keeps blinking even while I'm driving. 3 blink interval...did not know why until I notice later when i tried to lock car, my boot is open. Not sure but you can try to see if boot not close, the alarm led will blink or not.

Macam, ini I also want 1 set Iridium. RM160. Got expiry date kah.. tongue.gif

Still need to wash them, lazy whistling.gif If no reoiling, then the performance do goes down vs with reoiling, is it not. Some more cleaning by washing later might not perform as good as a good new air filter. Still wonders, if can have higher airflow means its paper holes are bigger, means more dust will go thru vs original paper filter. Sorry for being sceptic but thats my main concern.

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