QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 27 2011, 02:04 PM)
Aiyah ultimate security for your car lah..
Keyless alarm system + brake lock + steering lock + wheel lock (motorbike/bicycle style) + gear lever lock + chain your car to a pillar using high tensile chains.. Habis cerita
No need so mafan lah.. lock this lock that.. I straight take out the starter motor from the car.. kautim loh.. How they jumpstart, hot wire blah blah blah also cant start.. The starter motor very small one only mah..
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jun 27 2011, 02:05 PM)
i forgot to fully wind up my driver's side window last night, today my car still there...

The thief also wondering mb there is a catch y u left ur windows down.. haha..
QUOTE(pupumaru @ Jun 27 2011, 02:07 PM)
well explained...eh I had no idea what was that metal dogtag thingy till now...i think i sudah throw it away liao
Jual besi buruk mah.. haha..
QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 27 2011, 02:14 PM)

Ok guys, not to be demotivating here, but we're talking about ways to secure a plus minus RM 50k car. True, Proton cars are high on the thieves' list as one of the most sought after cars for their parts, but I still don't see why should we be more worried for our cars. Yes, some people may think that prevention is better than cure, but I think personal safety is way more important here. Especially for lady drivers, they did all they can to prevent their car & valuables from being stolen but risk themselves getting raped or even murdered.
My advice is, no matter what alarm system u're using, keep it short, simple & doesn't trouble you when emergency comes. Even expensive cars are still using the same alarm system as ours, (passcode keyless entry for Mercedes S-class, but thats about it. Inside, it's conventional immobiliser and autolock.). My 2 cents.
Added on June 27, 2011, 2:15 pmThere is an immobiliser in the black cover. That's why you can't start the car.
although its a 50k car, thats the best i can afford for now.. If dont have ferrari doesnt means u dont need to take care mah.. Without this 50k car i wont even be able to have a job.. But when i have a 2mil car definitely i have another spare car to go around if the ferrari diec0ck mah.. The inconvenience caused by the loss of the car, getting insurance to pay etc etc is horrible.
QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 27 2011, 02:24 PM)
The digital entry pad is not optional to use by the owner, since we can have it control with our remote easily. The keypad is mainly built for your wife/gf/friend/mom/family convenient.
The keypad on the windscreen is wired connected, so no way it will transmit frequency.
Well then the thief have to imitate two frequency. The remote send only signals, while the main unit inside the vehicle only receive signals. If no one press the remote, no one can dupe the signal i guess?
Hacking RFID is very high tech thingy, especially hacking low frequency, and it takes time to generate the right frequency. Most alarm have delay if u press continuously, that is why the time gap slow down the theft. If u want to hack, i think u have to get very close to the car and holding up a duplicator with a cup of coffee.
Some high end model of Viper alarm comes with rolling code, but only the code will change itself when the owner press on the remote. What if the theft duplicate the code when you park your car in a shopping mall?? 30 minutes is good enough to dupe the code, since your code will only change when u press on the remote. Right?
Most of the high end alarm system comes with an rolling code, which means it will change the frequency in circulation for XXX times.
The system can accept up to three remote at once, to register them you need to setup in the digital keypad.
Nono.. You don't operate them with the digital keypad, it's not something the driver will oftenly used. It's built for your passenger convenient, you can cancel it by programming it too.
Once you have enter your car, start your engine and put the handbrake / foot on the brake the door will lock itself. If the door lock itself when the driver closed the door, what about the passenger? That time u will need to unlock the door again.. When you're pumping your petrol, most probably someone will stay near the door and some stay near the petrol filler.
This is how keyless works, it has advantage and disadvantage, for some car, when you locked the door, the fuel filler cap will lock itself too, then how to cope with this?
Nothing is perfect. That's the keyless advantage and disadvantage.
Hahaha.. i said the thing has not been finalize yet maa... where can show?
Cranking timer : some car / old car / diesel car / cars in cold weather need longer cranking time to start their engine. Some car have powerful starter and crank up the car easily, like my DMAX 1/2 crank already can get the cold engine started. Persona need 1 second to crank their cold state engine, warmed engine takes 0.4sec (i dunno why, maybe starter not powerful enough to crank up a cold engine.) Cranking timer is 0.3, 0.4, 0.6 and 1sec. I used 1 sec for my timer since sometime in cold weather really hard to start and CamPro has cut off feature. If in case your engine really hard to start / battery weak, you can press on the button for more than 4 second, that it will force start until the engine successfully cranked up.
Our CamPro comes with starter cut off when the engine has started, so don't worry your car will over crank.
What lock / alarm also useless lah if someone really want to steal your car. They would have bring a tow truck and tow your car away. What can you do? With chain locked to the wheel? They bring a chain cutter and will cut your chain in no time.
Should have gotten a mechanical shift lock, making them unable to shift out from P.
Brake lock? Drive slowly and make full use of handbrake lorrr
Jammer will absorb all the nearby frequency, making them unable to communicate.
Small metal tag? That one nothing to do with the code leh... All i need is place your key on a receiver for 3 sec and i will get your transponder code, that time baru gg.com.my
Oic.. actually for campro engines.. It take quite some time to crank.. But after my friend changed to a new bigger battery the car seems very much easier to start.. the ori battery is DIN45R.. the new one is DIN55R.. Higher amperes one..
QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 27 2011, 02:33 PM)
Can open door/trunk but cannot start your engine. There's a transponder inside your key cover, remove the screw, open it up and you will see it.
There is always a flaw in every alarm system. And if one decided to steal your car, you can't stop them no matter what. An alarm / security product is to delay the time, not to fully protect your car being stolen. To steal a car, two things you will need is TOOLS and TIME.
The reason i place the touch pad to the passenger side it because it's for my mom/family/gf to operate it, sometimes they will nag u to open the trunk / door / start engine for air cond before u reach the car... So ask them to operate it with the digital pad instead of nagging me. Not good?

And one more reason i place there is because the remote holder can operate all the function from the remote liao, why still need to cucuk cucuk the windscreen?
The remote comes with Lock, Unlock, Remote Start, Trunk button.
The keypad function is Lock, Unlock, Remote Start, Trunk.
= Same?

The keypad is most likely to act as a programmer to setup only. But only three function above will work.
Finger print biometric ones i also can supply , you want or not?
What if your finger has a cut? And you need to rush to the hospital, but you enter your car and require your finger print to get the engine started. How ahhh???

actually its a good idea to hae both keypads and remote.. If ur mother in law or mom or some other guys were to Bfollow ur car, u can ask them to use the keypad, u get to brag about ur cool alarm system too!! But if its ur gf, u tell her to rummage through ur pockets lah. XD
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Jun 27 2011, 04:27 PM)
i am around johor jaya XD
u ?? tapau myvi only meh?? not enuf lah~~my stock now can tapau myvi also...hahahaha~~but normally i very light foot. RM580...ok wat..any lobang on exhaust pipe??
Me skudai..
No leh.. If u go full throttle against a Myvi for 0-100 u will lose.. I also very light foot all the time.. I change gear around 2.5k-2.8k everytime..
QUOTE(monodevil @ Jun 27 2011, 05:20 PM)
oh ok..i bit scare coz the water drops > normal that i usually saw in my parents car
But ur PE aircon coldness > than ur parents car also right?