yeah... one of the reason some security system had failed, for example the finger print one... do you want your thumb to be chopped off and being runaway with your car?
and you know thieves nowadays are nuts, they don't get what they want, they gonna give you even worst stuff..

The digital entry pad is not optional to use by the owner, since we can have it control with our remote easily. The keypad is mainly built for your wife/gf/friend/mom/family convenient.

The keypad on the windscreen is wired connected, so no way it will transmit frequency.

Well then the thief have to imitate two frequency. The remote send only signals, while the main unit inside the vehicle only receive signals. If no one press the remote, no one can dupe the signal i guess?

Hacking RFID is very high tech thingy, especially hacking low frequency, and it takes time to generate the right frequency. Most alarm have delay if u press continuously, that is why the time gap slow down the theft. If u want to hack, i think u have to get very close to the car and holding up a duplicator with a cup of coffee.

Some high end model of Viper alarm comes with rolling code, but only the code will change itself when the owner press on the remote. What if the theft duplicate the code when you park your car in a shopping mall?? 30 minutes is good enough to dupe the code, since your code will only change when u press on the remote. Right?

Most of the high end alarm system comes with an rolling code, which means it will change the frequency in circulation for XXX times.

The system can accept up to three remote at once, to register them you need to setup in the digital keypad.

Nono.. You don't operate them with the digital keypad, it's not something the driver will oftenly used. It's built for your passenger convenient, you can cancel it by programming it too.

Once you have enter your car, start your engine and put the handbrake / foot on the brake the door will lock itself. If the door lock itself when the driver closed the door, what about the passenger? That time u will need to unlock the door again.. When you're pumping your petrol, most probably someone will stay near the door and some stay near the petrol filler.

This is how keyless works, it has advantage and disadvantage, for some car, when you locked the door, the fuel filler cap will lock itself too, then how to cope with this?

Nothing is perfect. That's the keyless advantage and disadvantage.

Hahaha.. i said the thing has not been finalize yet maa... where can show?

Cranking timer : some car / old car / diesel car / cars in cold weather need longer cranking time to start their engine. Some car have powerful starter and crank up the car easily, like my DMAX 1/2 crank already can get the cold engine started. Persona need 1 second to crank their cold state engine, warmed engine takes 0.4sec (i dunno why, maybe starter not powerful enough to crank up a cold engine.) Cranking timer is 0.3, 0.4, 0.6 and 1sec. I used 1 sec for my timer since sometime in cold weather really hard to start and CamPro has cut off feature. If in case your engine really hard to start / battery weak, you can press on the button for more than 4 second, that it will force start until the engine successfully cranked up.

Our CamPro comes with starter cut off when the engine has started, so don't worry your car will over crank.

What lock / alarm also useless lah if someone really want to steal your car. They would have bring a tow truck and tow your car away. What can you do? With chain locked to the wheel? They bring a chain cutter and will cut your chain in no time.

Should have gotten a mechanical shift lock, making them unable to shift out from P.
Brake lock? Drive slowly and make full use of handbrake lorrr
Jammer will absorb all the nearby frequency, making them unable to communicate.
Small metal tag? That one nothing to do with the code leh... All i need is place your key on a receiver for 3 sec and i will get your transponder code, that time baru gg.com.my

That's what I was wondering too. But I think if u're the keyholder, u'll be starting ur car using the car key instead of the windscreen touchpad. But IF u're the keyholder, and the remote needs to be near the car in order for the windscreen touchpad to work, then there's no reason for your passenger to use it right? Unless it's for cool factor la. U're already near the car why don't u just be a gentleman & unlock the car for that chick rather than asking her to go press press on the windscreen? My 2 cents. No offence whatsoever, as I find that most of the things I said here easily offends other people. I don't know whether it's them being sensitive or me being arrogant, like what cho_petpet said the other day. Maybe the latter.

Exactly. Nothing is more important than personal safety & life.

Btw sam, finally came back to Malaysia d? How's ur sexcapade? & where's my harmee goreng??

Can open door/trunk but cannot start your engine. There's a transponder inside your key cover, remove the screw, open it up and you will see it.

There is always a flaw in every alarm system. And if one decided to steal your car, you can't stop them no matter what. An alarm / security product is to delay the time, not to fully protect your car being stolen. To steal a car, two things you will need is TOOLS and TIME.

The reason i place the touch pad to the passenger side it because it's for my mom/family/gf to operate it, sometimes they will nag u to open the trunk / door / start engine for air cond before u reach the car... So ask them to operate it with the digital pad instead of nagging me. Not good?

And one more reason i place there is because the remote holder can operate all the function from the remote liao, why still need to cucuk cucuk the windscreen?

The remote comes with Lock, Unlock, Remote Start, Trunk button.
The keypad function is Lock, Unlock, Remote Start, Trunk.

= Same?

The keypad is most likely to act as a programmer to setup only. But only three function above will work.

Finger print biometric ones i also can supply , you want or not?

What if your finger has a cut? And you need to rush to the hospital, but you enter your car and require your finger print to get the engine started. How ahhh???

I think the best way to scure our car is buy the wheel clamp lock from MPSJ or DBKL fella put two of it at front an back wheel it solve all the problem.............

When you're already near the car, the door itself has already unlock. So no need to ask your chick to press press on the windscreen. Only when they want to operate the boot when you're already sitting in the car and they want to operate through the digital pad.

Try imagine if you're carrying a whole load of shopping bags for your chick, while your chick hand is empty (being a gentleman ma). So you want to ask your chick to open the trunk for you since your hand is full of their stuff, you can ask the chick to press on B Enter, there goes your boot unlocked. And sometimes chick hates hot weather, at the same time she can start the car first while waiting for you to load your stuff.

And yup, i gotta agree it's a cool factor also lah.

So if, and if the thief knows how to operate the windscreen pad while you're in the car also you gg.com.my. Imagine in a traffic jam suddenly a bike come next to you, Tap Tap Revenge on your windscreen, open your door & hijack your car. Scary wei

That's why I said, if someone really wants to steal your car, there's nothing that can be done to prevent it. Just see how easily DBKL can tow your car away & you'll understand. They only have to tow your car somewhere else to carry out the unlocking job.

Chainsaw? High tensile chains lah. Need some time to cut But upon seeing your car kena chain down like that with all the crazy locks in your car, you think they'll still be motivated to steal it ah? Unless it's a Bugatti Veyron lah Can add 4 clamps, each clamp on each tyre of your car too if you want.. Then double pad lock it with Solex..

The entry pad wont work with engine started.

That's where your Maggi siggy came from...lol.......

Hmm.. Then when u're in the car with ur engine off leh? Say u just walk out of a shopping mall, into ur car.. Then u lock the doors cos talking on the phone..

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Added on June 27, 2011, 2:48 pmWhat to do. Some people too sensitive ma, as if I'm talking bout his kids or what.

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Added on June 27, 2011, 2:50 pmEh that means it's something that shouldn't be installed in a lady's car lah..

But I dun understand.. U said that once the engine is started the doors will lock itself.. Means ur chick can lock you out of your car also lah.. And if u're already in the car, pulling the trunk release lever is definitely more convenient than asking them to come press press on the screen right?

My iswara still the best. No thief will ever think of stealing that piece of junk I got dog bites on my car fender as thief deterrent

This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 27 2011, 02:58 PM

ya,finally bec to msia ady the harmee goreng at my house lo..but i'm only free on next sat lo

Zzz... I hungry liao leh.. Harmee boss rich already duwan do business liao ka?

i wan do business lo..but tis week i need go bec johor and onli free on next sat..is it ok??

U mean this coming Sat u goin back johor? Next saturday ka.. Hmm.. Can gua..

That's one of the flaw too. hailat.com.my

Then you will have to cancel the function with the existent of remote controller, but then it will kill the "convenient" for the passenger and the keypad will act as a programmer only lor..

i rater ask my chick to put her hand in to my pocket to grap the car key .... ...that will more cool and shock wright....

so v oso can held TT lo

Ya lo ya lo..

SO TRUE!! I did that the other day with that chick.. XD Ambik kesempatan cos I'm carrying her shopping bags.. Mwahahahahah... XD

Then imagine this..
Grab grab then tergrab one long cylinder thing Then chick ask, eh what's that?

"Oh no lah, that's my IMMOBILISER ma..."

This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 27 2011, 03:02 PM

eh dont' say like that my courleague Nissan 120Y got steel at LRT station.

HAHAHAHAH... That's because that nissan probably had no security system whatsoever ma.. Mine still got alarm.. But then ah, I tell u.. If u've seen my car IRL I think u'd rather steal that 120Y than my iswara if they're both parked side by side