Woah is it? Since when Segamat are able to receive SG channels? Or that is only possible since digital TV is available in Singapore?
Previously, can SG analogue TV channels (which has been ceased) be able to receive it there?

Are you able to receive SG channels yourself? Could you share some photos on the signal reception readings as well?

Is it entire Segamat are able to receive Singapore channels with strong signal reception, or only certain parts of Segamat?
What are the things needed to do/have to receive SG channels in Segamat like in your neighbourhood? Signal booster?
Cuz what I know, people over there don't install TV antennas high up like in Muar to receive Singapore channels.

I would say, nobody will go look for 12 feet dish... And definitely, after convert to MYR, it will costs few thousands... So just forget about it. LOL...
Receive it via DTT is good enough.

Not necessary.
You see, 11490 V 45000, this transponder on Asiasat 9, belongs to MYTV, so basically they can decide whether the channels is encrypted or not.
The thing for sure is, if they make it free-to-air, many would opt for not buying MYTV hybrid DVB-S2+T2 box anymore cuz.they can just buy any compatible universal satellite receiver, and also like those cheap China ones, to receive it. And yalaa, not certified by MCMC and don't have the "MCMC" logo one.
And once again, MYTV rugi again if this happens...

It is the same concept as as Astro on why all RTM and Media Prima channels are encrypted on Astro.

And also, the Asiasat 9 satellite's Ku band beam that MYTV uses, also covers entire Indonesia. So, broadcast content rights could be an issue too.

Source: Asiasat (https://www.asiasat.com/sites/default/files/asiasat-9_0.pdf)

And yes~ myFreeview (MYTV) channels via satellite can be received in Indonesia and also with strong signal reception, if you smuggle in MYTV's hybrid DVB-S2+T2 box into the country and enjoy it yourself. Duh, Malaysia FTA channels so nice to watch meh?

Oh I see... Thank you very much for the explanation. Really appreciate that.

Usually how many "elements" of the outdoor antenna being used to receive adequate Singapore DTT channels in Segamat? 14e? 27e? or the very long 37e UHF antenna?
Is it true to say that signal booster is definitely a must use equipment to receive Singapore DTT in entire Segamat area?
How about 37e antenna + booster? Will it able to receive adequate signal for Singapore DTT channels? Will this somehow cause Malaysia DTT signal to become "overload", making it unable to detect by the TV / digital TV box when tune to Malaysia DTT frequency in Segamat (546MHz, I suppose), or pixelated?

How about in Taman Kekwa, Bukit Siput? Any info that the area are able to receive Singapore channels? How's the reception there? Is it good enough to just install it on rooftop, or have to install a pole of up to 20 metres high to receive?

This post has been edited by joshhd: Feb 17 2019, 12:59 AM

Yeah, what I meant is, same dish with totally opposite west/east direction is not possible, unless you use 2 separate dishes and a Diseqc (combine up to 4 satellite input into 1 output).

Oh you aim for C band? Which satellite and how many feet? Did you place the C band dish openly or hide it from being easily spotted?

I'm not sure about MYTV's use of Irdeto encryption. If they use smart card pairing, then GG lor.... CCcam / card sharing won't work.
Smart card pairing is like Astro B.yond, where each smart card can only be read on that particular assigned set-top-box, and are not interchangeable with other set-top-boxes.
In the real world now, people would just opt for IPTV instead of satellite.
Before talking about watching the channels in illegal ways such as CCcam, do you enjoy watching Malaysian FTA channels anyway?

Ooo... Let me guess, 6 feet dish aim at Measat 3/3a 91.5 °E?
Or Intelsat 19 166 °E?

Then probably they wanna watch Malay programmes. To them, they can have more variety of channels.
TV1, TV2 and TV3 can be viewed on Measat 3 C band if you know how... Indonesians can just watch it from there, instead of depending on MYTV satellite, unless they love Malaysian TV so much to smuggle in MYTV hybrid S2+T2 box to their country in the future.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Feb 17 2019, 12:13 PM

Ohhh.. HBO India signal from Intelsat 20 68.5 °E are quite strong actually.
You use 75/90cm dish to receive that?

Receiving Malaysian channels in Dumai, Indonesia, are like the distance of receiving Singapore channels in Muar...
How simple is the antenna installation to receive the channels there? No need to use the 37e UHF antenna and place on those 50 feet pole high up + booster, like how some Johorians try to receive SG channels?

What are the Indonesian authorities worried about? The people there no longer interested in watching Indonesian FTA TV channels anymore? How about receiving Singapore channels easily especially in Johor Bahru area? LOL. Does Malaysian government or MCMC worried about this anyway?

Anyhow, the people there can receive the Indonesian channels via satellite there mah... Such as Ninmedia, or their FTA channels via C band satellites like Palapa D or Telkom 3s or Telkom 4. Not necessary have to depend on terrestrial TV that much, since satellite TV equipment are openly available there.

In my opinion, this is like an exchange for both Malaysia and Indonesia. All Indonesia's satellite FTA and pay TV signals (including C band and Ku band) are receivable in entire Malaysia due to satellite signal overspill. So in return, all Malaysia's DTT channels are soon to be made available via Ku band satellite in entire Indonesia once MYTV hybrid S2+T2 box is made available to purchase publicly, thanks to the Asiasat 9's Ku band beam that MYTV uses. Win-win for both countries.

I did ask my relative staying in Segamat about it. They say, like no one install like the 50ft long high pole there in Bukit Siput. So usually if no one installs that in the particular area, then it's usually SG channels can't be received. That saying was many years ago la... But to think again, perhaps the signal reception for DTT may be different than the previous analogue TV signals, and who knows Singapore DTT channels now can be receive there easily?

Sounds like "No harm trying", but some may concern that erecting a 50ft pole high up like this, can easily get strike by lightning, hence damaging TV equipment.
Some would say that lightning strikes often occur in that area, or some might say they already kena strike by lightning many times, so they don't feel like continue to receive Singapore channels, so some may choose not to risk. Is it true?
How would the Johorian tackle this issue to prevent from getting their TV damaged by lightning? Besides a lightning arrester, is there any other way? Or I would say, any cheaper and effective way? Or the Johorians will be just "When lightning strikes my TV until spoil, then only see how"?

Hmm, if that's the case, then in what scenario it will cause the TV or DTV box to signal overload especially due to the use of signal booster?

How different is the reception like, compare with 14e + masthead amplifier (booster), and 37e without masthead amplifier (booster)?
*masthead amplifier: the type that is electrically powered and can switch on/off, for outdoor antenna use.

Example: If the line-of-sight distance from main tower (according to Google, but not directly able to be seen the tower from naked eye), to the receiving location (house) is only about 25km. And then, you use outdoor 14e antenna + masthead amplifier (booster) to receive DTT channels. Will this causes it to signal overload?

Is this an accurate way to determine whether SG DTT channels has chance to be able to receive in that particular area within Johor? Or just a reference?

And what do you mean by medium signal strength? We can't see signal % readings on FM radio. LOL...
Did you mean by, able to receive Singapore FM radio with some static occasionally but still listenable, or how?

Where can I download the add-on?

This add on, is it free or need subscription?

These add-ons, can be accessed in Malaysia without restriction, right?
Is it available in HD? Or only in SD quality?
How about subtitles language? Can choose which language you prefer?

This post has been edited by joshhd: Feb 18 2019, 07:25 PM

I know the legal way is using Toggle, but you can't watch SG live TV channels from Toggle in Malaysia
Unless you know how to bypass it? Using VPN?

You're in Singapore, is it?

Hmmm... But since analogue TV is shutting down, then all these shall become irrelevant already LOL. Indeed, SFN on DTT is proven to be effective in these situations, by using lesser frequencies and more spectral efficient.

Then I wonder, for DTT channel freq allocation in Southern Johor, Singapore and Batam borders, Malaysia is odd number, Indonesia is even number. How come this doesn't cause interference since the frequency is just "next to each other"? Why Malaysia or Indonesia doesn't locate next to to Singapore's frequency? Example 554MHz SG, 562MHz empty, 570MHz SG. Why not the 562MHz allocate to Malaysia or Indonesia? Is it because Singapore are too close to Gunung Pulai Tower and Batam towers?

Yeah, that's what I expected to happen actually...
I think most likely it'll replace the SD version of Channel U, literally replace it into HD version only.

https://mothership.sg/2019/02/okto-closing-...with-channel-5/

You've come to the right place to ask these questions
According to Gobind, our gov announced that they'll shut down analogue TV on end of Q1 2019, but they did not specify the exact date. Who knows it might get delayed again, because it has been postponed for quite a few times already. But anyhow, just keep fingers crossed that it will be shut down on time and won't get delay again.


Still using 3C2V cable type? Maybe it's time to get it replaced and lay a new cabling. Not to say 3C2V cannot, but if there is a choice, I would go for RG6 coaxial cable. As to my best knowledge, people nowadays won't opt for 3C2V cable anymore la. RG6 cable is very commonly used nowadays. Like now, you can't get digital TV signals and you know that you know that you're using 3C2V cable, I assume the cabling must be 10-20 over years already lol, then just get it replaced to RG6 cable. Assuming you're using outdoor UHF antenna, as long it is still in good condition, where the antenna's "metal rods" are still in good condition (not too rusty, or severely bent, or some rods have been missing), and the connector port of the antenna is still in good condition, then do continue use it.

It depends on your receiving location (where do you stay). If your area is too far away from transmitter towers, or rough terrains, and other surrounding factors, both analogue and digital TV signals can become poor and unstable, or no signal for digital TV. If you can receive analogue TV channels clearly without too much static, it shouldn't be a big issue to receive digital TV signals. If you stay in a rural or remote areas, then maybe there is a possibility that you might face some reception issues.
But to most of the cases, you will be able to receive digital TV signals properly. Unless, if MYTV is up to something fishy on their transmitter towers, like technical reception issues, then I have no comment but to just complain and bring up the issue to their customer service.

Because digital TV is, if there is adequate signal, you can see everything. If the signal is poor, then you see nothing. Got means got, don't have means don't have. If "half-half" signal (means poor or marginal signal), you'll see pixelation (a lot of boxes, and freezes) like you playing a scratches DVD disc. Pretty straightforward. Also, if you use any signal booster (masthead amplifier), do consider power it off and remove it, as this might cause signal overload for the digital TV signals, and it might be the culprit that you get "No Signal" on digital TV.

In simple words, Njoi is better than MYTV (myFreeview, digital TV) because Njoi has more channels for you to watch compared to MYTV (at least for now).

Njoi is a free-to-view satellite TV service from Astro. So yes, you still experience rain fade issue same like Astro.
Do you experience any signal disruption issue on your analogue TV during rain? Well, it is the same thing for MYTV digital TV too,
Unless if the signal reception are unstable especially if antenna installation are not properly done, it won't cause interruptions one.

If terrestrial TV (MYTV digital TV/analogue TV) and satellite TV (Njoi/Astro) is out of the option, then your only option left is Internet.

When you say "iptv", I assume you are referring to those illegal streaming services where you can watch hundreds to thousands of channels from various countries either for free or some affordable subscription types by using a TV box, do note that service quality from those underground IPTV services are not guaranteed, and yes, it's illegal, so use it at your own risk.

Or, you can opt for the legal streaming services such as Netflix, iflix and many more. Or, just consume content online like from Facebook, YouTube, and others. At the end of the day, it depends on what kind of content you want to watch la.

Hope you learnt something new today.

From what I see from the history, both countries don't seem to put much attention on this interference issues also. It's like "I want to operate my frequency as I wanted and planned".
Like, Malaysia operate at 682MHz and I expect only Malaysia to receive that, while Indonesia also operate near 682MHz, I expect only Indonesia to receive that. If it's outside my country (out of my bounds), then it's not my main problem anymore. Can receive it or not, disrupt or not, not my problem.
They seems to close one eye that Johor Bahru and Batam is graphically quite near. They could argue that both are actually quite far away and it doesn't cause very severe interference issues to their own countries. Haih, I don't know la. The impression they give me is, whether interfere or not, either shut down or not also not gonna bother both countries.

Agree. That's why MYTV now also has DTH solution to cater viewers that is still outside DTT reception. As long it's satellite TV, it can guarantee that entire Malaysia (incl. Peninsular and East Malaysia) can get 100% coverage even in deep jungle, straight away solve the headache of not able to deploy DTT transmitter or relay towers to those remote areas due to financially not feasible problem. And not to forget, they use Ku band, so rain fade issue will present for sure, like Astro/Njoi.

I can't disagree this fact. All I see is, MYTV is just kept on advertise their "Macam betul-betul~" nonsense, but they don't highlight more on the analogue switch-over, and did not create more awareness to the people to switch over to digital TV. If you go ask around the people, do you know what is analogue TV, I would say almost all of them don't even know what is that, and they don't know that it is going to shut down soon. I know that this company MYTV has lots of problems, especially financially. But then, looking at the content of the analogue TV channels today, it is no surprise that majority of Malaysians nowadays won't choose to enjoy entertainment on TV, particularly FTA stations like RTM and Media Prima channels as their primary choice. So whether analogue TV shut down or not, or watch on digital TV or not, they don't care also, especially the youngsters.

In contrast with Singapore's digital TV, I find that they really done a very good job on the switch-over in terms of public awareness, and especially the squeeze-back to "forcefully" inform viewers that analogue TV is going off-air soon.

Ah yes, you got to make sure the antenna is pointing towards the transmitter's direction too.
You lay your antenna on your roof and the signal reception works fine all the time? Hmmm..