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PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13
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zeone
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Jun 13 2011, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 09:57 PM) u can search around lelong or mudah or automotive garage  just dn't buy those that u see that is especially too cheap install i think need to go to shop and have them install Yup, Juz now Googled & saw lots on sale in lelong site! Not cheap either! But mainly used to continue run engine to cool down turbo. And yup, installation diagram shown not simple task & need to get car model specific connectors for good safe install. Shld find easier way... hehe...
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:04 PM) I normally stop my car and wait for 1min before turning off the engine it helps alot with the engine cranking problem. Btw have anyone changed their rear brakes to disc brakes,planning to change mine soon i'm not happy with the stock brakes.I saw an advert at mudah rear disc breaks for blm ("confirm no problem") Rm800 siap pasang.The disc break from eterna,it seems it the most suitable for blm for some reason regarding the handbrake and the diameter is small so can fit it any car. Change your front brake pads first. Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection. Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs.
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zeone
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Jun 13 2011, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 09:40 PM) Eh~ Persona also can let the rad fan continue to run Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models! Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan!
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:07 PM) Yup, Juz now Googled & saw lots on sale in lelong site! Not cheap either! But mainly used to continue run engine to cool down turbo. And yup, installation diagram shown not simple task & need to get car model specific connectors for good safe install. Shld find easier way... hehe...  Actually our cars (Campro ones) does allow the radiator fan to continue to run if the engine temperatures exceeds the threshold values. Like mine last time didn't off, later found out radiator fluid dont have
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:11 PM) Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models! Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan!  Read my second newest reply
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pravred
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Jun 13 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:10 PM) Change your front brake pads first. Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection. Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs. ya i recalled you told me so,but my friend poison me saying change rear to disc better,may be as you said i should change my brake pads and see the difference,more cheaper.bro do you mean change to sports kind of brake pads? or any recommendation.
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:13 PM) ya i recalled you told me so,but my friend poison me saying change rear to disc better,may be as you said i should change my brake pads and see the difference,more cheaper.bro do you mean change to sports kind of brake pads? or any recommendation. Hmm, other than OEM ones, I think most should be okay. Just be sure of several factors, like optimum operating temperatures, metallic concentration, etc
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zeone
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Jun 13 2011, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:10 PM) Change your front brake pads first. Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection. Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs. Agreed! Feel not worth the Puspakom hassle! Change to better brake pads first. If want better improved braking, another mod I've done to my ole ride is a change to SS Reinforced Brake Hoses. Can instantly feel the difference in braking capability! If wanna save $$$, do it the DIY way as taught in car forums. Of course, effect not as great as a change of better hoses.
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:21 PM
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The other option is to opt for larger front disc brakes, but may need JPJ inspection + rim change.
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pravred
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Jun 13 2011, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:16 PM) Hmm, other than OEM ones, I think most should be okay. Just be sure of several factors, like optimum operating temperatures, metallic concentration, etc yup i think i better find out properly before changing pad just now while looking for brake pads,one blm owner change brake pad to mintex and end up overheating the and spoil the rotor.
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:21 PM) yup i think i better find out properly before changing pad just now while looking for brake pads,one blm owner change brake pad to mintex and end up overheating the and spoil the rotor.  On track day? Normal driving shouldn't happen. I dunno what pads I'm using (DAMN that sounds wrong), but downhill Genting, with stepping on the brakes quite a lot, it does not fade/overheat that easily. Mine's definitely not OEM as my fren's Persona OEM pads overheated.
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zeone
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Jun 13 2011, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:12 PM) Actually our cars (Campro ones) does allow the radiator fan to continue to run if the engine temperatures exceeds the threshold values. Like mine last time didn't off, later found out radiator fluid dont have  Fan only runs if ignition is on "start car" position. But when key is turned to "Accesories" position, rad fan is shut down! In old Sagas, as long as key is not removed, rad fan runs till temp is down.
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pravred
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Jun 13 2011, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:24 PM) On track day? Normal driving shouldn't happen. I dunno what pads I'm using (DAMN that sounds wrong), but downhill Genting, with stepping on the brakes quite a lot, it does not fade/overheat that easily. Mine's definitely not OEM as my fren's Persona OEM pads overheated. he said when come down genting got smoke and brake stop functioning,scary lah.he stop for a while than later continue down,later normal driving also heating up and got screeching sound.
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:26 PM) Fan only runs if ignition is on "start car" position. But when key is turned to "Accesories" position, rad fan is shut down! In old Sagas, as long as key is not removed, rad fan runs till temp is down.  How to compare with old Saga bro. Old Saga is a Lancer, this new Saga has no relation whatsoever with the Lancer  QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:27 PM) he said when come down genting got smoke and brake stop functioning,scary lah.he stop for a while than later continue down,later normal driving also heating up and got screeching sound. He spamming the brakes ka? I think it's driver problem more than brake pad problem lo.
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pravred
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Jun 13 2011, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:29 PM) He spamming the brakes ka? I think it's driver problem more than brake pad problem lo. i continued reading his problem and later he found out that the brake pad didn't suit blm rotor cause it can't stand high temp need to change to aftermarket rotors.he changed back to stock than ok redi.i think i will just change to something slightly better duwan to change to sports kinda pads and end up spending more money.huh this week brake pads shopping.
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MR_alien
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Jun 13 2011, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:04 PM) I normally stop my car and wait for 1min before turning off the engine it helps alot with the engine cranking problem. Btw have anyone changed their rear brakes to disc brakes,planning to change mine soon i'm not happy with the stock brakes.I saw an advert at mudah rear disc breaks for blm ("confirm no problem") Rm800 siap pasang.The disc break from eterna,it seems it the most suitable for blm for some reason regarding the handbrake and the diameter is small so can fit it any car. thn anyone can go try and report it here drum brake sucks...not sure why car manufacturer still using them?? mainly becuz it's cheap only
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:35 PM) i continued reading his problem and later he found out that the brake pad didn't suit blm rotor cause it can't stand high temp need to change to aftermarket rotors.he changed back to stock than ok redi.i think i will just change to something slightly better duwan to change to sports kinda pads and end up spending more money.huh this week brake pads shopping. Do update us on the brakepads that you will buy
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jerrymouse
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Jun 13 2011, 10:38 PM
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guys, can recommend me which SC besides puchong and SK better? I dont mind going far, heard that SC in Shah Alam quite good as their mechanic is more experience, is that true? May I know what is the SC name?
Really really appreciate if any owner here can give me some suggestion.
Many thanks
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ericmaxman
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Jun 13 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:36 PM) thn anyone can go try and report it here drum brake sucks...not sure why car manufacturer still using them?? mainly becuz it's cheap only Well, it serves it's purpose, right? Sylphy 2.0 rear drum brakes. Even the new Chevrolet Sonic also rear drum brakes.
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MR_alien
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Jun 13 2011, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:11 PM) Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models! Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan!  i think i saw some member saying the fan is still spinning after u turn off that was few threads back i think it is still spinning
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