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kurogane
post Mar 8 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Mar 8 2012, 09:56 PM)
And then you went back for watching anime for the arts sake?
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I'll admit, I'm not watching anime much for fanservice nowadays.

For story, my picks would be Another and Symphogear, mainly because Another is a rare horror anime that's gotten pretty competent. Symphogear meanwhile has a really intriguing story going along with it.

I'm frankly just watching Natsume Yuujinchou Shi for the heck of it, since i've already watched the first three seasons and even if the stories are getting repetitive, it's always fun to see what new yokai gets introduced. Same with Last Exile 2 as well... even though the story is all over the place.

Most of the rest, I really watch for the character drama. Ano Natsu, Aquarion Evol, Moretsu, Rinne, Chihayafuru and Nisemonogatari are great examples for nice character drama even though I can pretty much predict how the story is going to be like. Good production values from the shows I mentioned also help.

I mean after over 5 years of anime watching as my main source of entertainment, I can say I've seen quite a bit of the same, but hey I still haven't gotten bored of it yet. There's always some aspect or another in shows that keeps me coming back. I've found out that just choosing anime based on fanservice or story will really make you miss out on a lot of interesting gems if you don't try to even watch them. Comedy anime are a great example, for instance.

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post Mar 8 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 09:47 PM)
Haha. No.

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You're the wrong one here, those show you listed are generally heavy and aimed at mature audience.

QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 09:47 PM)
Also it's extremely f***ing sad if your two criteria for watching an anime are story or fanservice.
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...what? Than all that left is just animation and audio,please don't tell me those were the reason why you watched an anime.


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post Mar 8 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 8 2012, 10:10 PM)
...what? Than all that left is just animation and audio,please don't tell me those were the reason why you watched an anime.
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Do one really need a reason to watch an anime? Tell me.
kurogane
post Mar 8 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 8 2012, 10:10 PM)
You're the wrong one here, those show you listed are generally heavy and aimed at mature audience.
...what? Than all that left is just animation and audio,please don't tell me those were the reason why you watched an anime.
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They aren't so much aimed at "mature audience" than at the "otaku crowd". Of course i only listed a selected number of shows because the real market of anime in Japan is towards kids and young teenagers. Are you going to tell me a comedy anime like Daily Lives of High School Boys or Baby Please Kill Me is only for 18+ audiences?

As for the reason I watch anime, generally it's because I love the medium truly to try most of them before even generalizing them as shit. Even "fanservice" anime can turn out to be surprisingly good at times in other aspects. Just because the "majority" doesn't think it's shit does not mean that I think it's bad.

I have many potential reasons to love a show. Maybe my favourite seiyuus are it. Maybe the character drama is engaging. Maybe the writer is good. Maybe the director is good. Or even maybe because my favourite composer is doing the sound track for it. Heck, for GC, sure it's a f***ing trainwreck, but I still can "love" it if only for the fan reactions to it.

There's an objective value and subjective value to everything. If you are going to judge everything by an objective value, I truly pity for your future.

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post Mar 8 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(CZero @ Mar 8 2012, 10:13 PM)
Do one really need a reason to watch an anime? Tell me.
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The only answer is no, or more precisely there is no correct answer for that question.
Just like every other form of entertainment, anime is highly subjective both in medium and the content itself.
Because of this subjective nature, each individuals hold their own opinions and thus, this 'reason' is pretty much different from each and every person.


Added on March 8, 2012, 10:39 pm
QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:21 PM)

They aren't so much aimed at "mature audience" than at the "otaku crowd". Of course i only listed a selected number of shows because the real market of anime in Japan is towards kids and young teenagers. Are you going to tell me a comedy anime like Daily Lives of High School Boys or Baby Please Kill Me is only for 18+ audiences?
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When you said that the real market is kids and teenagers, I know that you're just pulling this out of your thin air using your own perspectives. Again, you are completely wrong in this matter.

QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:21 PM)
There's an objective value and subjective value to everything. If you are going to judge everything by an objective value, I truly pity for your future.
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I'm sorry, but what?


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kurogane
post Mar 8 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 8 2012, 10:28 PM)
The only answer is no, or more precisely there is no correct answer for that question.
Just like every other form of entertainment, anime is highly subjective both in medium and the content itself.
Because of this subjective nature, each individuals hold their own opinions and thus, this 'reason' is pretty much different from each and every person.


Added on March 8, 2012, 10:39 pm

When you said that the real market is kids and teenagers, I know that you're just pulling this out of your thin air using your own perspectives. Again, you are completely wrong in this matter.
I'm sorry, but what?
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Lol, if you're gonna deny it without giving me something concrete to justify that I'm wrong then please don't even start. Anime in Japan can be said as the same as cartoons for Western audiences. You can compare the figures for a shounen manga vs a seinen manga and you'll quickly see the reason why the "Big Three" last so damn long in Japan. Even for anime home video sales, why do you think they can produce over 300 episodes of One Piece and over 200 episodes of Gintama non-stop? It's because there's enough people buying the media to justify it.

Well, maybe One Piece isn't going to be a good example since it's been running so long, most of the kids who grew up reading it are already working adults (I know I am one). There are other kid focused anime series that do qualify, like say Digimon, that yo-yo show, and even Shin-chan too. Hell, even Gundam is going this route with Gundam AGE.

Finally, for the objective and subjective value... please do your own thinking and try to look up what those two words mean. Here let me give you an example to kick you off:

Objective - TV ratings, Sales figures, production budgets
Subjective - Fan reactions, Review ratings. Your own personal feelings about a show.

I hope that will be illuminating enough for you, because I don't intend to spare more words for you if you are going to be deflecting me with ad hominems.

This post has been edited by kurogane: Mar 8 2012, 10:58 PM
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post Mar 8 2012, 11:20 PM

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i never know watching anime can be this serious

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post Mar 8 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Mar 8 2012, 11:20 PM)
i never know watching anime can be this serious
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You insolent fool. Watching animu is srsbsns. Talking about it is a matter of life and death.


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QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:21 PM)
Heck, for GC, sure it's a f***ing trainwreck, but I still can "love" it if only for the fan reactions to it.
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THIS. Precisely THIS. A lot of folks seem to be missing this point.

A key component to enjoying anime is to have fun with other people who are watching the show. Regardless of whether or not the show is good (objectively/subjectively speaking), I find great entertainment in talking/b****ing/whining about the things I watch with people who know what I'm talking about. If you take any of the comments too seriously, or get terribly offended by plain text, you lose one the best things about enjoying anime as a pastime.

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post Mar 9 2012, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Mar 8 2012, 11:20 PM)
i never know watching anime can be this serious
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...I honestly enjoying every minute of this.

QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:58 PM)
Lol, if you're gonna deny it without giving me something concrete to justify that I'm wrong then please don't even start. Anime in Japan can be said as the same as cartoons for Western audiences. You can compare the figures for a shounen manga vs a seinen manga and you'll quickly see the reason why the "Big Three" last so damn long in Japan. Even for anime home video sales, why do you think they can produce over 300 episodes of One Piece and over 200 episodes of Gintama non-stop? It's because there's enough people buying the media to justify it.

Well, maybe One Piece isn't going to be a good example since it's been running so long, most of the kids who grew up reading it are already working adults (I know I am one). There are other kid focused anime series that do qualify, like say Digimon, that yo-yo show, and even Shin-chan too. Hell, even Gundam is going this route with Gundam AGE.

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Again and again, you are wrong.
Right now I honestly believes that you do not know what the hell are talking and but you sure took the effort typing all those pointless babbling.

QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:58 PM)

Finally, for the objective and subjective value... please do your own thinking and try to look up what those two words mean. Here let me give you an example to kick you off:

Objective - TV ratings, Sales figures, production budgets
Subjective - Fan reactions, Review ratings. Your own personal feelings about a show.
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No shit sherlock! Maybe you aren't that bad after all.

QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 8 2012, 10:58 PM)
I hope that will be illuminating enough for you, because I don't intend to spare more words for you if you are going to be deflecting me with ad hominems.
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Oh my, ad hominem? All I did is point out your baseless assumptions, of which is what it really was.
I don't think I need to attack you personally, you've already done a great job degrading yourself with each and every post you made.

QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 8 2012, 11:56 PM)

A key component to enjoying anime is to have fun with other people who are watching the show. Regardless of whether or not the show is good (objectively/subjectively speaking), I find great entertainment in talking/b****ing/whining about the things I watch with people who know what I'm talking about. If you take any of the comments too seriously, or get terribly offended by plain text, you lose one the best things about enjoying anime as a pastime.
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I think I just got a taste of what you meant over there.
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post Mar 9 2012, 01:29 AM

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Prime rule of internet debates.

When one does not have enough evidence or material to back up their arguments, one must insult and discredit all prior points made by the poster that challenged your view.

This is also known as circlejerking.

Stop it.
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post Mar 9 2012, 01:37 AM

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Added on March 9, 2012, 1:41 am
QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 9 2012, 01:23 AM)
...I honestly enjoying every minute of this.
Again and again, you are wrong.
Right now I honestly believes that you do not know what the hell are talking and but you sure took the effort typing all those pointless babbling.
No shit sherlock! Maybe you aren't that bad after all.
Oh my, ad hominem? All I did is point out your baseless assumptions, of which is what it really was.
I don't think I need to attack you personally, you've already done a great job degrading yourself with each and every post you made.
I think I just got a taste of what you meant over there.
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As for you, I have no idea what point you're trying to make - or if you're trying to make one for that matter.

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post Mar 9 2012, 02:49 AM

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story telling time... since they have unfold the past, wonder what else they can tell in the game...
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post Mar 9 2012, 03:12 AM

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>stopped watching this since ep7
>linked to this circle jerkfest by "someone"
>this shit is even more entertaining than the f***ing anime itself

when we submitting new scripts to GC production?
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post Mar 9 2012, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 9 2012, 01:23 AM)
Again and again, you are wrong.
Right now I honestly believes that you do not know what the hell are talking and but you sure took the effort typing all those pointless babbling.
No shit sherlock! Maybe you aren't that bad after all.
Oh my, ad hominem? All I did is point out your baseless assumptions, of which is what it really was.
I don't think I need to attack you personally, you've already done a great job degrading yourself with each and every post you made.
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post Mar 9 2012, 10:57 AM

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^ Oh my, thank you very much for, but I am not as highly as what that image makes me.

QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 9 2012, 01:37 AM)
As for you, I have no idea what point you're trying to make - or if you're trying to make one for that matter.
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The latter, as of course.

QUOTE(lencent @ Mar 9 2012, 02:49 AM)
story telling time... since they have unfold the past, wonder what else they can tell in the game...
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Lost Xmass is a spinoff rather than a prequel/sequel or something, so I won't be worried much about since obviously they can and will came up with a much better story than what GCrown has.

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post Mar 9 2012, 11:28 AM

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I come in here again for new episode discussion
but seems like everyone is busy discuss something else
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post Mar 9 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(missingNo @ Mar 9 2012, 10:57 AM)
The latter, as of course.
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Oh, you weren't trying to make any points? Just mindless drivel without contributing anything to the discussion? Okay, that clears up a lot of things. Good job!
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post Mar 9 2012, 11:59 AM

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Guilty Crown Topic become Anime debate Topic XD
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post Mar 9 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 9 2012, 11:29 AM)
Oh, you weren't trying to make any points? Just mindless drivel without contributing anything to the discussion? Okay, that clears up a lot of things. Good job!
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I already stated my intention before, just trying to point out a wrong statement so that it won't be taken as a fact by others.
I didn't make any point or stating anything else aside from that, thats pretty much it.

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post Mar 9 2012, 12:26 PM

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.....ok just stop it ..
just go back to the original topic already >.>

btw ..seen the ep21 preview ..looks like shoe's cancer will get bigger later

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