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TSGary1981
post Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM, updated 15y ago

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I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?


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post Jun 8 2011, 10:19 AM

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I think that is reasonable coz it covers internal and external. I got a quote for RM3K ++ just for external, 2 half storey house, end lot. Excluding paint.

Am still searching for affordable painters, sigh.
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post Jun 8 2011, 10:49 AM

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Does it include ceiling?
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post Jun 8 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:49 AM)
Does it include ceiling?
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they said is ONE HOUSE.
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post Jun 8 2011, 11:44 AM

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Better re-check with them to prevent dispute later, just IMHO ya.. Cheers
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I have a tiny 16 x 45 2-storey ....

My contractor quoted 7k, inclusive of acid washing, stain removal, ceilings and grilles, basically everything... Just normal basic white paint too...

Is this too expensive????

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*Inclusive of paint

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Does it include material?
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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I had a Malay Contractor with 4 indonesian with good skills

22x75
exclude paints
-2layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- 1 layer for Undercoat/Sealer
- Skimming to make wall smooth for Pearl Go painting ( Whole internal)
- 10 vdays completion
- 5 workers

Cost RM3500 after barganing.. The Contractor is very friendly as i am quite stern with the requirement. Daily audit the wall and ask them to patch any place even go small air pocket holes hehe


Added on June 8, 2011, 10:17 pm
QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 8 2011, 10:04 PM)
I had a Malay Contractor with 4 indonesian with good skills

22x75
exclude paints
-2layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- 1 layer for Undercoat/Sealer
- Skimming to make wall smooth for Pearl Go painting ( Whole internal)
- 10 vdays completion
- 5 workers

Cost RM3500 after barganing.. The Contractor is very friendly as i am quite stern with the requirement. Daily audit the wall and ask them to patch any place even go small air pocket holes hehe
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Another tips for house painting

http://colouradvisor.jotun.com

Use this to visualize what paint you need by uploading your house picture for free compare to nippon


Added on June 8, 2011, 10:17 pm
QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 8 2011, 10:04 PM)
I had a Malay Contractor with 4 indonesian with good skills

22x75
exclude paints
-2layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- 1 layer for Undercoat/Sealer
- Skimming to make wall smooth for Pearl Go painting ( Whole internal)
- 10 vdays completion
- 5 workers

Cost RM3500 after barganing.. The Contractor is very friendly as i am quite stern with the requirement. Daily audit the wall and ask them to patch any place even go small air pocket holes hehe
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Another tips for house painting

http://colouradvisor.jotun.com

Use this to visualize what paint you need by uploading your house picture for free compare to nippon

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post Jun 9 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 8 2011, 10:04 PM)
I had a Malay Contractor with 4 indonesian with good skills

22x75
exclude paints
-2layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- 1 layer for Undercoat/Sealer
- Skimming to make wall smooth for Pearl Go painting ( Whole internal)
- 10 vdays completion
- 5 workers

Cost RM3500 after barganing.. The Contractor is very friendly as i am quite stern with the requirement. Daily audit the wall and ask them to patch any place even go small air pocket holes hehe
Which location do the contractor covers ? Do you mind sharing his contact number ?

Thanks.
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post Jun 9 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(catpowder @ Jun 8 2011, 02:44 PM)
I have a tiny 16 x 45 2-storey ....

My contractor quoted 7k, inclusive of acid washing, stain removal, ceilings and grilles, basically everything... Just normal basic white paint too...

Is this too expensive????
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To me, that is extremely so expensive. My wife sister house paint abt 5k inclusive paint also i feel expensive...


@edwin32us

It seems mine @ RM2k is cheap, i taught want to squeeze the contractor some more...hmmm...
I planning to use nippon paint. For external @ Rm125/5 litre, For internal @ RM124/5 litre (upstairs) & @RM108/5 litre (downstairs).
Only use 1 x 18litre Sealant (the hardware recommend).

Overall i targeting to complete the entire painting budget at RM3.5k(inclusive paint)...hope the hardware shop will give better price for my bulk purchase later...
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post Jun 9 2011, 08:52 AM

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nod.gif the price is ok if they incl all doors and ceiling... i know labour alone u work out can be lesser, but come on... there are doing business as well and for sure they need to earn something extra, somemore they will use their own brush and some tools.... and u said they provide touch up...

I will say the 2k is reasonable la.... give them to earn a bit lo.....


QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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post Jun 9 2011, 09:23 AM

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@gunh

Actually the actual is RM2.2k, after nego it goes to RM2k. Today asking another painter to come for quote, let see.
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QUOTE(french_fry @ Jun 9 2011, 12:02 AM)
Which location do the contractor covers ? Do you mind sharing his contact number ?

Thanks.
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He is from Kepong and he is able to cover Klang Valley

Name : Samy
Number : 0163072380

Mention that Mr.Toh introduce biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 10 2011, 01:19 AM)
He is from Kepong and he is able to cover Klang Valley

Name : Samy
Number : 0163072380

Mention that Mr.Toh introduce  biggrin.gif
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Samy? I tot you mentioned it's a Malay contractor? blink.gif
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QUOTE(vincentjaya @ Jun 10 2011, 10:33 PM)
Samy? I tot you mentioned it's a Malay contractor?  blink.gif
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Sami Bin Idris and his assistant.. biggrin.gif

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Skim Coat
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Painting Work
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In addition his tiling work is good and reasonable..
3 Toilet floor tile about 130 sqft about 900 with water proofing but excluding tile




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In addition his tiling work is good and reasonable..
3 Toilet floor tile about 130 sqft about 900 with water proofing but excluding tile

Cement with water proofing below it..
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With Tiling in progress and another 2nd water proofing layer
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Lastly he will show you his workmanship by hitting the middle of each tiles with a stick to check the sound for any air pocket but all was 100% pass..

Then he tried to flood the area for few hours at the upstairs and then we go to the ground floor inspect it was good..


Please note that before that the house was leaking badly whenever bathroom toilet was in used whereby you can see the water dripping like crazy when we remove the plaster ceiling..



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Can pm me the contact? tq

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I am repainting my 2.5 storey house. My subcon quoted me RM4k for painting all internal and external (except only the ceilings) with ICI Dulux Pentalite Easy Clean. This is an existing house and the current pearl glo paint still OK except stain and dirt. The sub con claim that I dont need a layer of sealer and undercoat as the existing paint is more than OK. He will just paint 2 coats over it. Is this OK? How about the quote? Thanks.
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post Jun 21 2011, 11:05 AM

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is there anyone appoint mypainter.com? quality ok?

i have approached them, seem their quote a bit expensive, however i willing to pay extra if their work is good especially for interior walls result.
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post Jun 21 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jun 21 2011, 09:45 AM)
I am repainting my 2.5 storey house.  My subcon quoted me RM4k for painting all internal and external (except only the ceilings) with ICI Dulux Pentalite Easy Clean.  This is an existing house and the current pearl glo paint still OK except stain and dirt.  The sub con claim that I dont need a layer of sealer and undercoat as the existing paint is more than OK.  He will just paint 2 coats over it.  Is this OK?  How about the quote?  Thanks.
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Inclusive paint is reasonable. U can easily check how much for a 5L for ICI pentalite, perhaps you can purchase your own which may save a little..
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post Jun 21 2011, 11:42 AM

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Actually how much the skim coat will cost for 2 storey house, internal wall only.

my internal wall is look ok, so not sure need to paint a sealer to cover some small hole or uneven area? or just do a whole skim coat. i will choose semi gloss type for internal wall.
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hi...i called samy..but he ask about mau plaster ka?what does it mean?
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QUOTE(cadrex_03 @ Jun 21 2011, 05:01 PM)
hi...i called samy..but he ask about mau plaster ka?what does it mean?
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maybe plaster = skim coat ? or touch up?
u ask what is the price diff la.

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post Jun 22 2011, 01:51 AM

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i got quote rm1.8k workmanship for painting interior by blanga for my double terrace house 22x75 intermediate, build up area 2150 sft.

walau,, nowaday blanga workmanship also so high.
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 22 2011, 01:51 AM)
i got quote rm1.8k workmanship for painting interior by blanga for my double terrace house 22x75 intermediate, build up area 2150 sft.

walau,, nowaday blanga workmanship also so high.
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i got quote my chinese contractor but indo worker is 2.6K, now got developer indo worker offer 1.5K...but worry he don't have time to do my work since he have to work on developer site and my condo not allow to work on weekend.
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 22 2011, 01:51 AM)
i got quote rm1.8k workmanship for painting interior by blanga for my double terrace house 22x75 intermediate, build up area 2150 sft.

walau,, nowaday blanga workmanship also so high.
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Only interior 1.8k? Thats is expensive. A bangla also quote me abt Rm1.5k for exterior only...so expensive....
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:49 AM)
Only interior 1.8k? Thats is expensive. A bangla also quote me abt Rm1.5k for exterior only...so expensive....
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mine is 2.6 lagi expensive. cry.gif
any way, my wall is new paint. and due to hacking for wiring and plaster ceiling...so i need to repaint the wall.

they quote me is 2 layer of paint only. should i ask 1 more layer for sealer? required o not?
now i cant notice or spot any uneven wall...my contractor say my wall is ok...he can help me touch up a bit...but i worry later have light then can spot it very clear.
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The paint seller recommend me to buy a 18L for sealant which is sufficient for entire house. But it also depends on your existing paint condition.

My painter advice me interior no need sealant, only require for exterior only. But same as u, interior i got hack and wiring with new plastering wall....
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2 layer is enough? but i hear if features wall(dark) color may need 3-4 layer rite?
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 22 2011, 12:14 PM)
The paint seller recommend me to buy a 18L for sealant which is sufficient for entire house. But it also depends on your existing paint condition.

My painter advice me interior no need sealant, only require for exterior only. But same as u, interior i got hack and wiring with new plastering wall....
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Dear Bro,

18L should be sufficient to cover approximate 1600-2000 sqft @ 1 layer based on the Technical Data....

Any new plastered wall shall applied sealant... This is to prevent moisture to appear in your wall surface as well as prevent fungus and etc...

Opps btw bro, is Sealer and not sealant ya... Cheers

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 22 2011, 02:24 PM)
2 layer is enough? but i hear if features wall(dark) color may need 3-4 layer rite?
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Yes, quite true. For light color, 2 layer is enough (if your existing paint is white or light color). But for dark color, you may need more layer because you'll see some uneven spot.

btw, I got quote for 2 storey 1980 sqft internal only including ceiling & doors:
mypainter = RM2400
mytukangcat = RM2100
indon = RM1500

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:53 AM)
mine is 2.6 lagi expensive.  cry.gif
any way, my wall is new paint. and due to hacking for wiring and plaster ceiling...so i need to repaint the wall.

they quote me is 2 layer of paint only. should i ask 1 more layer for sealer? required o not?
now i cant notice or spot any uneven wall...my contractor say my wall is ok...he can help me touch up a bit...but i worry later have light then can spot it very clear.
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yr one 2.6k only for interior?
it is better to put 1 layer sealer even thought yr walls have new paint, furthermore yr walls have been hacked.
yr situation same like me, bangla say no need sealer and just 2 layers paint. so doubt with their outcome quality sweat.gif
so that finally i chose mypainter even thought pay extra few hundred ringgit, at least feel safely hmm.gif

yes, dark feature walls need more layers if not hidding well.


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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:49 AM)
Only interior 1.8k? Thats is expensive. A bangla also quote me abt Rm1.5k for exterior only...so expensive....
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how about yr interior quoted by yr bangla?


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my advice is that if your walls are uneven, better avoid those glossy finish like pearl glo, satin glo, pearl silk, etc. These type of finished will bring out the unevenness and other defects in your wall when you switch on the lights.
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 22 2011, 02:42 PM)
Yes, quite true. For light color, 2 layer is enough (if your existing paint is white or light color). But for dark color, you may need more layer because you'll see some uneven spot.

btw, I got quote for 2 storey 1980 sqft internal only including ceiling & doors:
mypainter = RM2400
mytukangcat = RM2100
indon = RM1500
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bro, u buy own paint for mypainter or buy from them as well?


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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 22 2011, 03:02 PM)
bro, u buy own paint for mypainter or buy from them as well?
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I only ask for quotation. At first they gave lump sump quotation but I ask to separate for paint & workmanship. Their quoted paint price (Nippon) is retail price, I can get 12% off for 5 liter from shop.
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 22 2011, 03:32 PM)
I only ask for quotation. At first they gave lump sump quotation but I ask to separate for paint & workmanship. Their quoted paint price (Nippon) is retail price, I can get 12% off for 5 liter from shop.
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Wah...so cheap. I been quoted by them just workmanship already 5K. How come your only less than 3K? Is price you indicated is 2.7K is paint or ?

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Tq for correction..smile.gifI think better to applied sealant since my wall got hacked and plastered.

Papaya
Since is expensive only for exxternal, no ask abt interior.

I plan to start my painting this saturday. Will use the indon @ 2k for labor only. Paint by my own.
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 22 2011, 04:34 PM)
Wah...so cheap. I been quoted by them just workmanship already 5K. How come your only less than 3K? Is price you indicated is 2.7K is paint or ?
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type if house
interior & exterior
skim coat all wall or portion plastered wall

all abv can vary the workmanship cost.

they qoute me all lum sum 3.8k included paint & material for all interior wall (skim portion plastered wall) + plaster ceiling, but exclude door + door flame.

they use nippon spotless paint + 5500 sealer + super matex ceiling white. Don't know reasonable or not as all lum sum cost hmm.gif

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Consider cheap. As paint I will buy on my own, I got quoted Nippon Spotless @ RM108 per 5L & Aircare @ RM124 per 5L..Me probably go for cheaper Spotless.
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 22 2011, 05:22 PM)
type if house
interior & exterior
skim coat all wall or portion plastered wall

all abv can vary the workmanship cost.

they qoute me all lum sum 3.8k included paint & material for all interior wall (skim portion plastered wall) + plaster ceiling, but exclude door + door flame.

they use nippon spotless paint + 5500 sealer + super matex ceiling white. Don't know reasonable or not as all lum sum cost hmm.gif
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My lump sum included external was 9K.... vmad.gif
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Better to get them to do labour only. You buy the paint yourself. With this, you can be more certain of the actual paint being used.
Some of these unscrupulous painters will use a lower grade paint from what that was agreed. You are not there full time to monitor. Even if you monitor, very difficult to control. So, ease of mind, you buy the paint yourself. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 23 2011, 01:43 AM)
My lump sum included external was 9K.... vmad.gif
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they quote me lum sum int & ext 7.4k, ext walls use nippon solareflect.


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Better to get them to do labour only. You buy the paint yourself. With this, you can be more certain of the actual paint being used.
Some of these unscrupulous painters will use a lower grade paint from what that was agreed. You are not there full time to monitor. Even if you monitor, very difficult to control. So, ease of mind, you buy the paint yourself.  smile.gif
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no doubt they sell paint more expensive than other shops but still reasonable which extra few ringgit only. my house is near to their shop so no point i buy own paint far away + time/effort for own carry. Since they are quite famous in town, dont think they will cheat our paint which use lower grade. hmm.gif

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I was quoted for workmanship + material for the entire house both interior and exterior (inclusive of repainting of all the in grille and main gate) for 7K....

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Nippon Weatherbond for exterior
Nippon Odourless Premium for bed rooms
Nippon Satin Glo for my living + dining + small room at the ground floor
Nippon High Gloss for my grilles

Color type will be like 5-6 different type of colors

p/s: It includes skim coat for the entire house (interior)

I saw the reply here saying that there is a need for sealant. Whether the sealant is different than skim coat? Please advice.....
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Wah...so cheap. I been quoted by them just workmanship already 5K. How come your only less than 3K? Is price you indicated is 2.7K is paint or ?
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This is their quotation for workmanship for 2 storey 1980 sqft
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jun 23 2011, 10:11 AM)
I was quoted for workmanship + material for the entire house both interior and exterior (inclusive of repainting of all the in grille and main gate) for 7K....

Chosen
Nippon Weatherbond for exterior
Nippon Odourless Premium for bed rooms
Nippon Satin Glo for my living + dining + small room at the ground floor
Nippon High Gloss for my grilles

Color type will be like 5-6 different type of colors

p/s: It includes skim coat for the entire house (interior)

I saw the reply here saying that there is a need for sealant. Whether the sealant is different than skim coat? Please advice.....
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Firstly, I guess there is typo error here... The right terms is Sealer not Sealant...

Sealer and Skim Coat are two different things.... Just some hints for you guys here, The White Skim Coat can only be used indoor where-by low moisture area... External Area, there are some others "Skim Coating" products... Anyhow, I would suggest to use cement based material...


Added on June 23, 2011, 10:36 amJust some additional hints to everyone here, if your Painter, Tukang Cat is experienced enough, they could advice you whether the Paint has been expired or vice versa...

Actually paint have a shelf life....

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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 22 2011, 05:22 PM)
they qoute me all lum sum 3.8k included paint & material for all interior wall (skim portion plastered wall) + plaster ceiling, but exclude door + door flame.

they use nippon spotless paint + 5500 sealer + super matex ceiling white. Don't know reasonable or not as all lum sum cost hmm.gif
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you should ask for separate quotation, then you can compare the price. Normally, their quoted paint price is base color price. As you choose color, price may increase.
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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 23 2011, 10:34 AM)
Firstly, I guess there is typo error here... The right terms is Sealer not Sealant...

Sealer and Skim Coat are two different things.... Just some hints for you guys here, The White Skim Coat can only be used indoor where-by low moisture area... External Area, there are some others "Skim Coating" products... Anyhow, I would suggest to use cement based material...


Added on June 23, 2011, 10:36 amJust some additional hints to everyone here, if your Painter, Tukang Cat is experienced enough, they could advice you whether the Paint has been expired or vice versa...

Actually paint have a shelf life....
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Meaning those of my paint is those old type of brand paint? I really not that experience on this actually..... Sealer is needed for both internal and external? Or actually nowadays the paint already come with the same effect?
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jun 23 2011, 10:47 AM)
Meaning those of my paint is those old type of brand paint? I really not that experience on this actually..... Sealer is needed for both internal and external? Or actually nowadays the paint already come with the same effect?
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Hi bro,

Not old type of brand... But the expiry date just like canned food you bought from TESCO and etc...

Sealer only required to new wall or wash-down wall...

Paint system = Sealer / Undercoat + 2-4 layer of Weather Shied Paint (External) or 2-4 layer of emulsion paint (Internal)
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I use nippon 5500 sealer for all the internal and external except plaster ceiling....almost used 7-8 barrels.....poor...


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I use nippon 5500 sealer for all the internal and external except plaster ceiling....almost used 7-8 barrels.....poor...
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18 ltr per barrel?
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jun 23 2011, 10:42 AM)

no doubt they sell paint more expensive than other shops but still reasonable which extra few ringgit only. my house is near to their shop so no point i buy own paint far away + time/effort for own carry. Since they are quite famous in town, dont think they will cheat our paint which use lower grade. hmm.gif
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What I meant in general is that I would buy the paint and get the painter to paint. I do not get the painter to supply the paint. This has been my practice all along. Then you are more assured that the actual paint that goes onto your walls. biggrin.gif

This is probably because I have come across cases where lower grade paint (there are various means of doing so...) has been used without the house owner's knowledge biggrin.gif

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18 ltr per barrel?
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bro,

7-8 barrel x 18L = 144L x 10m2/L @ 1 layer = 1,440m2 +/- 15,500 sqft say wastage @ 20% = 12,400 sqft... Wa Lau, your house Bungalow ah?
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bro,

7-8 barrel x 18L = 144L x 10m2/L @ 1 layer = 1,440m2 +/- 15,500 sqft say wastage @ 20% = 12,400 sqft... Wa Lau, your house Bungalow ah?
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corner house....built-up more than 3000 sq ft...

somemore external surface rough, eat a lot of sealer.....i already add a little of water...if not...


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Bro,

12,400 sqft is a lot bro... usually floor to wall ratio is 2 - 2.5 times... Your is 4 times... Is a lot bro...

By the way, rough surface doesn't take much sealer... Anyhow I not too sure the roughness you mentioned here...
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I also wish somebody can clarify this matter for me...because I don't want to happen the case of "curi" paint..but this painter is quite famous at my area...all the contractors know him..

Internal - finish paint sealer - 3 barrels

External - finish paint first level of house including the columns of the car porch and terrace, the rc flat roof... and wall of behind house - 2 barrels

Still have second level of external house (front and beside), rc flat roof, and fencing..estimate 2 1/2 barrels..

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Friend,

I suggest your do a rough measurement of wall plastered wall surface and compare against the total Sealer used...
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btw, any recommend cheapest hardware shop to sell paint in klang valley? rclxub.gif
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where are you located? Your petrol may cost more than the saving if the shop is far from your place...
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i'm from puchong...well i heard nippon weathershield is good?
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i'm from puchong...well i heard nippon weathershield is good?
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If you want nippon, you can go to any paint shop that has 'nippon colour creation' sign. Choose color from catalog, they will check it at the computer for pricing. That is retail price, you can ask for discount. See how much discount you can get. So far, I can get 5% off for 1 liter & 12% off for 5L.

Currently nippon also give 20% off for certain paint & for standard color only.
http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/eventandacti...tion&albumID=15
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You can try Sin Tuck Woh Hardware at Puchong. Near the Shell & Petronas station.
Alternative you can also try living depot at Puchong Utama. Opposite Carrefour.
I got my paint supplies from these 2 places when I was renovating my house.


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i plan went to 'my color paint and hardware' shop
No 25, Jalan 3/62A, bandar menjalara, kepong

Any 1 went there b4?

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If you want nippon, you can go to any paint shop that has 'nippon colour creation' sign. Choose color from catalog, they will check it at the computer for pricing. That is retail price, you can ask for discount. See how much discount you can get. So far, I can get 5% off for 1 liter & 12% off for 5L.

Currently nippon also give 20% off for certain paint & for standard color only.
http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/eventandacti...tion&albumID=15
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You can try Sin Tuck Woh Hardware at Puchong. Near the Shell & Petronas station.
Alternative you can also try living depot at Puchong Utama. Opposite Carrefour.
I got my paint supplies from these 2 places when I was renovating my house.
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I have a tiny 16 x 45 2-storey ....

My contractor quoted 7k, inclusive of acid washing, stain removal, ceilings and grilles, basically everything... Just normal basic white paint too...

Is this too expensive????

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RM7k price is reasonable.
But please check have below:
- skim coating for internal wall
- ensure acid washing for external wall + undercoat for external wall

external wall must use weathershield
internal wall NOT to use fui sui type

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If your house is empty, they just use the water jet to clean the ceiling, wall, grille, etc.
Not sure what acid washing means. If you are really using acid, don't you think the acid could effect the other materials like your aluminum windows, roof tiles, etc. Acid will definitely effect the surround areas....
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Hi guys. Just wondering, how much will it cost to paint an intermediate size masterbedroom?

anyone know good affordable painters around shah alam area?
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Hi guys. Just wondering, how much will it cost to paint an intermediate size  masterbedroom?

anyone know good affordable painters around shah alam area?
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Depending on the condition of your existing wall and the amount of work required (surface preparation)
Mostly the painters will charge between RM150 - 200 per day for labour since it is just a master bedroom only
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Guys
My house is intermediate 22 X 80. I plan to paint: -

- internal
- external walls
- main gate
- roof
- main and room door
- all grilles

Can this be done within RM5k provided I purchase the paint? Please advice
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Guys
My house is intermediate 22 X 80. I plan to paint: -

- internal
- external walls
- main gate
- roof
- main and room door
- all grilles

Can this be done within RM5k provided I purchase the paint? Please advice
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should can be, but exclude skim coat all intererior walls. labor for skim coat quite expensive.
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QUOTE(VKS286 @ Jun 29 2011, 07:04 PM)
Guys
My house is intermediate 22 X 80. I plan to paint: -

- internal
- external walls
- main gate
- roof
- main and room door
- all grilles

Can this be done within RM5k provided I purchase the paint? Please advice
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I have received quotations for painting work between 3.5k to 4.5k.
I assume when you mentioned "roof", you mean the ceiling smile.gif
an not painting the roof tiles biggrin.gif

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My interior wall is done. Those hacked wall, i saw the painter use skim coat and with sand paper to smoothen it and no put any sealant which they said no require. So far satisfied with their work done for interior.

Yesterday done sealant for exterior. Tmr will continue with paint....
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Anyone can recommend a good painter? Those having good experience with their paintwork. thanks people biggrin.gif
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My Indon worker charge me 1.6k to paint the house inside and outside, 1 base coat and 2 primer. I think it is very cheap maybe because I also give him do the whole house renovation so special price kua...If just the piant job alone maybe 2.5k?



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My Indon worker charge me 1.6k to paint the house inside and outside, 1 base coat and 2 primer. I think it is very cheap maybe because I also give him do the whole house renovation so special price kua...If just the piant job alone maybe 2.5k?
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1.6k consider very cheap for in & out side, but need to consider the outcome quality. Some cheap painter will not give so good job, such like area of wall corners, skirting, plug points and not provide touch up after you phase in and so on...
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Don't think the given rate would include protection of other area like door knob, window panels, flooring, etc.
So, if you decide on this, then be prepare to do the protection work yourself. Else, if you can live with it.
Also don't have too high expectation on the finishing quality.
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Cheap does not means low quality. Expensive does not guaranteed good quality too. For rm1.6k is good price and just to ensure clarifies with them what the scope of paint and finishing.

So far I been satisfy with my painter that charge me @rm2k inclusive internal, external, ceiling, doors, grillles, skim coat some hacked area, and final touch up.. Fast and never say no whenever I ask them help me.
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Hi, I have a question on some painting work.

Currently I'm looking to paint the whole condo unit which is approx 1220sq. ft

How much will the total be inclusive of labour and paint cost approx?
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Hi, I have a question on some painting work.

Currently I'm looking to paint the whole condo unit which is approx 1220sq. ft

How much will the total be inclusive of labour and paint cost approx?
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I believe if you list out the type of paint that you want to use, then there would better response from potential painters  biggrin.gif
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Just say is ICI Dulux? smile.gif
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you may want to check this out to be more specific on what you want smile.gif

http://www.icipaints.com.my/EN/products/index.html

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Mind to share how many square feet is your house and how much you paid for your paints for all?
Paint brand?

QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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My house is 22x75, using "Nippon spot less". Approx i spend abt 2k on paints.


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How bout the actual build up?
Mine oso 22x75, 1750sqf, they quoted me rm6500, included ici paint, but mine majority basic white color
Exterior include waterjet, undercoat, paint for front n back, gate n fence
Interior undercoat n paint for wall n ceiling n grill, minor skimming for those uneven ceiling

Anyone using white color? Feel any difference on the outcome compare to those apple white, orchid white, etc?
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How bout the actual build up?
Mine oso 22x75, 1750sqf, they quoted me rm6500, included ici paint, but mine majority basic white color
Exterior include waterjet, undercoat, paint for front n back, gate n fence
Interior undercoat n paint for wall n ceiling n grill, minor skimming for those uneven ceiling

Anyone using white color? Feel any difference on the outcome compare to those apple white, orchid white, etc?
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If you use white, then can get those project price for the paint. Much cheaper biggrin.gif

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Noticed that some of the new projects (luxury houses) use white colour for exterior wall...

I am thinking of using white colour too but I afraid will easy to turn dirty within 2-3 years...

hmm...want to follow the trend or not?

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oh, project price?
getting from?
and you refer to basic white?
Just wondering if using basic white will look like a hospital?


QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 6 2011, 12:21 PM)
If you use white, then can get those project price for the paint. Much cheaper  biggrin.gif
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Added on July 6, 2011, 1:57 pmhmm.. i'm going for the white as well, i think the contractor told me to use weathershiled, i believe those are meant for outdoor one.
maybe those used the weathershiled before can comment if the white colour dirty easyly?


QUOTE(tiensong @ Jul 6 2011, 12:26 PM)
Noticed that some of the new projects (luxury houses) use white colour for exterior wall...

I am thinking of using white colour too but I afraid will easy to turn dirty within 2-3 years...

hmm...want to follow the trend or not?
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How bout the actual build up?
Mine oso 22x75, 1750sqf, they quoted me rm6500, included ici paint, but mine majority basic white color
Exterior include waterjet, undercoat, paint for front n back, gate n fence
Interior undercoat n paint for wall n ceiling n grill, minor skimming for those uneven ceiling

Anyone using white color? Feel any difference on the outcome compare to those apple white, orchid white, etc?
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ICI paint is a bit expensive than Nippon. Ask what range of paint they giving u. Then roughly calculate how many litres will require, deduct the approx cost of paints and u will obtain the labor charges..
If u ask me, that's is extreme expensive..
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mind to share how many litres you used for exterior and intererior separately?
This is the part i dunno how to estimate as never paint any before.

QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jul 6 2011, 02:07 PM)
ICI paint is a bit expensive than Nippon. Ask what range of paint they giving u. Then roughly calculate how many litres will require, deduct the approx cost of paints and u will obtain the labor charges..
If u ask me, that's is extreme expensive..
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If you ask the painter to quote you including the paint, it should be higher. They will have additional factor to allow for the paint cost. Just in case. You know la... They don't want to lose money...

So, for win win situation, better for the house owner to buy the paint themselves.


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thanks for the suggestion.
I will ask them to quote if without the paint.
Since mine is only white colour, should be easy to get it everywhre.
But can share how can I estimate the volume i need for the whole house?

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 6 2011, 02:17 PM)
If you ask the painter to quote you including the paint, it should be higher. They will have additional factor to allow for the paint cost. Just in case. You know la... They don't want to lose money...

So, for win win situation, better for the house owner to buy the paint themselves.
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thanks for the suggestion.
I will ask them to quote if without the paint.
Since mine is only white colour, should be easy to get it everywhre.
But can share how can I estimate the volume i need for the whole house?
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You can follow the manufacturer's guideline which is 10m2 for every 1 lit of paint.
You can also ask the hardware shop for estimation. If you are painting one colour for the whole of interior & one colour for the exterior, (different type of paint for interior & exterior) there would not much of wastage.
You need not buy the full amount at one go. Buy, say 90% of the total required first.
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Can ask painter to quote with and without paint. Then you roughly know how much paint needed. Then go hardware shop and ask for estimation. Compare both and agak-agak from there?
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@qtee

I suggest u ask the painter what range of ICI paint they give u. Then only ask price for without paint.
As I use different colour for interior, some is 2L and 5L. For urs, estimate abt 8x 5L for interior, external I use abt 4x 5L, undercoat I bought 1x 20L, gutter I use different colour.
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Thank you very much for the information.
We have brief discussion on the ICI paint that will be used.
But yet to check with him on the quotation if without providing the paint.
Will do so before make the decision.


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@qtee

I suggest u ask the painter what range of ICI paint they give u. Then only ask price for without paint.
As I use different colour for interior, some is 2L and 5L. For urs, estimate abt 8x 5L for interior, external I use abt 4x 5L, undercoat I bought 1x 20L, gutter I use different colour.
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Added on July 7, 2011, 3:56 pmjust wondring if the painter will purposely wasting the paint and tell you not enough, and you need to go and buy again if you choosen to buy yourself?


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my shop supply almost all type of paints, included ICI, NIPPON, JOTUN, KCC, PAR, SEAMASTER, Mr.Paint Man, TOA... etc... i do supply indonesian painters and chinese contractors as well, feel free to drop by to find me, SIN TUCK WOH HARDWARE PJ SDN. BHD. Address is 113, Jalan 20/7, Paramount Garden, 46300, PJ. I'm colour consultant there, VINCENT. 0166146634 =)
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jul 6 2011, 10:59 PM)
@qtee

I suggest u ask the painter what range of ICI paint they give u. Then only ask price for without paint.
As I use different colour for interior, some is 2L and 5L. For urs, estimate abt 8x 5L for interior, external I use abt 4x 5L, undercoat I bought 1x 20L, gutter I use different colour.
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can you give me your painter contact?
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wow, the prices that you guys are getting are extremely cheap! my contractor quoted me RM5k for 2 apartments! I am combining 2 apartments into 1 unit. The total size is about 2.5k sq feet. According to him he needs to scrap out the older paint and apply to coat of paint. is that too high?
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mine quote me 3k for double storey internal & external, labour only.....minor touch up inclusive.

need skim coat all surface....need add more like 1k-2k...in negotiation stage to add that now...

any comment?
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QUOTE(bteoh @ Jul 19 2011, 01:29 AM)
mine quote me 3k for double storey internal & external, labour only.....minor touch up inclusive.

need skim coat all surface....need add more like 1k-2k...in negotiation stage to add that now...

any comment?
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Should be around this price.
The price will depends on how many coats of paints plus the extend of touch up required. Some painter may give you a lower price but their workmanship sucks.
Skim coating the internal walls are very messy and dusty when they have to sand the wall. Better to do this before you move in.
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can i know if anyone has good painting contractor to recommend? mine is just a 1,000 sq ft apartment - only living room + 3 bedrooms (got built-in cabinet, so less painting wall to do)
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just share some of my pricing from my sub-con.....

for internal...

example ur living hall got 3 wall is

1-Left side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
2-Right side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
3-Ending side,10ft(H) x 10ft(L)

so total is 700 sqft for the wall painting.

RM 1.0/sqft for ici maxilite
RM 1.8/sqft for ici pentalite

so if 700 sqft x RM 1.8 (pentalite) = RM 1,260

roughly calculation...
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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Aug 7 2011, 12:42 AM)
just share some of my pricing from my sub-con.....

for internal...

example ur living hall got 3 wall is

1-Left side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
2-Right side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
3-Ending side,10ft(H) x 10ft(L)

so total is 700 sqft for the wall painting.

RM 1.0/sqft for ici maxilite
RM 1.8/sqft for ici pentalite

so if 700 sqft x RM 1.8 (pentalite) = RM 1,260

roughly calculation...
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This for single floor, so double floor will stillbe around 2.5K, right?

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ya,this only for the living hall,according to the wall....if u wanted to count

just use

from btm to top, how many feet

and times with full length of the wall...

normally height is 10feet la..without plaster ceilling...

and depends how u talk with contractor ....

if u deal with him only paint...maybe he will charge higher la...

if u got more works with him like work of plaster ceilling, M&E ...

he might discount or offer cheaper price...

and

u wanted ask him to supply and paint or just supply worker?

and where ur location...
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jul 3 2011, 05:07 PM)
Cheap does not means low quality. Expensive does not guaranteed good quality too. For rm1.6k is good price and just to ensure clarifies with them what the scope of paint and finishing.

So far I been satisfy with my painter that charge me @rm2k inclusive internal, external, ceiling, doors, grillles, skim coat some hacked area, and final touch up.. Fast and never say no whenever I ask them help me.
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Guys,

I just got a rough quote from a painter (2k for 1084sf condo)
Chinese guy with indonesian workers
-includes materials & labour
-includes ici pentalite (which he considers expensive paint)
-include 1 grill, 7 doors & plaster ceiling

Any comments? Is this reasonable?

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let's share my pricing....
I get my contractor paint for me...2.5 storey terrace house, 22x70, include paint and labour, use ICI paint, include grill, wood door, all the walls outside the house and inside the house....
Total 5k


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let's share my pricing....
I get my contractor paint for me...2.5 storey terrace house, 22x70, include paint and labour, use ICI paint, include grill, wood door, all the walls outside the house and inside the house....
Total 5k
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pls PM me.
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QUOTE(Shanny @ Aug 15 2011, 11:15 AM)
let's share my pricing....
I get my contractor paint for me...2.5 storey terrace house, 22x70, include paint and labour, use ICI paint, include grill, wood door, all the walls outside the house and inside the house....
Total 5k
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hi does your contractor cover PJ?
mind sharing his contact?
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i want your painter.
pls PM me.
is the quality any good?
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Any hint how the calculation work for Painter only supply labour painting the whole house grill, doors, plaster ceiling, internal / external?


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Yup....I agree with Kelvyn, it's very subjective, for me, I think their work is quite nice, 3 layer of paint is being applied, but the only problem is the progress is quite slow....

I have pmed you the contractor no
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Do they
01) Strip off old paint?
02) How many layer of primer
03) How many layer of paint?
04) Clean up after paint?
05) Do they seal all old holes?

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For my case.....
Do they
01) Strip off old paint? - hmm....this one I am not sure
02) How many layer of primer - Seriously not sure
03) How many layer of paint? - he said 3 layers
04) Clean up after paint? - yes
05) Do they seal all old holes? - Yes
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 15 2011, 01:34 PM)
Do they
01) Strip off old paint?
02) How many layer of primer
03) How many layer of paint?
04) Clean up after paint?
05) Do they seal all old holes?
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Does stripping off the old paint matter?
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Today I'm been quoted like "I'm "water fish""

Paint for the double story house (22x75) with "Kerja saja" (labour only) want to have 4.5K.

And I ask him what he need to do:-
1) Since you already Skim Coat and the folk didn't sand all, hence I have to do
2) I will do 3 layer (1 base 2 color)
3) Exteriod will use water to wash not water jet
4) grill and door...

I'm looking to him and said "Are you sure this need to be 4.5K? As other included paint only 5.5 - 6K", "Oh...than kau cari orang lain la, kerja saya cantil dan owner happy punya" "Jika saya tak happy, tak payah?"

Must well I pay the Pro Painter than...


Added on August 21, 2011, 11:57 amJust meet another folk which asking for RM 2.7K, this included standard 3 layer jobs / sand the whole wall, interiod / exteriod....etc excluded paint (labour only).
But one thing he indicated was it need a bit hacking activity on my new wall and old way as it not "even", hence need to remove the area 1.5 x 8 feet weight and re-cemement again else will be funny.
He been introduced by my father. who they already knowing each other for past 5 years plus, and most on my father company painting are pass to him (My father working in a contruction company)

Now I have at least 4 contractor quotated

1) RM 4.5K
2) RM 2.7K
3) RM 2K (who does the plaster ceiling for me, and the price was drop from 3K to 2.5, than 2.3 and yesterday told me RM2K) brows.gif
4) RM 5.5K (included paint)
5) RM 6.5 K (included paint)

WHich choice will you make?


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Price aside, I would go for someone that either I or someone that I trust, knows/ recommend. At least you know that the painter don't play around. Painting work can be very subjective. You will not be around to monitor their work.

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IMHO,

No matter contractors that quote you expensive or cheaper will claimed they are very good. At my stand, i will pursue with those offered reasonable price or meet my budget and have cross reference of their workmanship.

If you ask me, include paint that exceed RM5k is unreasonable to me. Hence, i dont believe they are too kind to give you the most expensive paint model. When include paint, this painter may give u lowest model by maximising their profits, giving you cheap paint for ceilings.

IMHO, to paint 2 or 3 layer is just another marketing idea for this painter to convince the client. After my house reno, to paint how many layer is depends on the colour you choose to paint (either light or dark). Most paint at 2 layer will sufficient provides with undercoat(1 layer).

FYI, my painter labour only RM2k(entire house, skim coat some area). I purchase my own paints which cost me abt maxRM2.5k for entire house.


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I just got a quote for my condo - excluding kitchen & toilet - roughly 500sf and i got quote 5.3K. Based on you guys, this is extremely expensive.
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I just got a quote for my condo - excluding kitchen & toilet - roughly 500sf and i got quote 5.3K. Based on you guys, this is extremely expensive.
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What type of paint is your painter providing you for that kind of exorbitant price? ohmy.gif

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Done by selection after various comments and expirence on this renovation. Hence will go to 2) RM 2.7K, who introduce by my father and also paint my uncle house before...
Hopefully this the correct choice icon_rolleyes.gif

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Hope you made the right choice & the painter will perform as expected. However, even for someone that was introduced (recommended) it is best that both parties have a proper understanding of the scope of work and expectation upfront. This is to avoid any dispute late on. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 29 2011, 08:43 AM)
Hope you made the right choice & the painter will perform as expected. However, even for someone that was introduced (recommended) it is best that both parties have a proper understanding of the scope of work and expectation upfront. This is to avoid any dispute late on.  smile.gif
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Hmmm....Need black and white?
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Hmmm....Need black and white?
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Something that both parties can refer to later to avoid dispute would be good. You never know.
It can be just on a piece of paper biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 29 2011, 03:34 PM)
Something that both parties can refer to later to avoid dispute would be good. You never know.
It can be just on a piece of paper  biggrin.gif
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Sometime is hard as people may not like it if they didn't know how to read....

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Aug 29 2011, 04:55 PM)
Sometime is hard as people may not like it if they didn't know how to read....
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If like that, then get 2 other persons that both of you trust as witness on what that was agreed.
Else just leave that the fate... biggrin.gif
Hopefully he will be a gentleman and honor his words tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Aug 7 2011, 12:42 AM)
just share some of my pricing from my sub-con.....

for internal...

example ur living hall got 3 wall is

1-Left side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
2-Right side,10ft(H) X 30ft(L)
3-Ending side,10ft(H) x 10ft(L)

so total is 700 sqft for the wall painting.

RM 1.0/sqft for ici maxilite
RM 1.8/sqft for ici pentalite

so if 700 sqft x RM 1.8 (pentalite) = RM 1,260

roughly calculation...
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Added on September 6, 2011, 1:13 pm
QUOTE(Shanny @ Aug 15 2011, 01:33 PM)
Yup....I agree with Kelvyn, it's very subjective, for me, I think their work is quite nice, 3 layer of paint is being applied, but the only problem is the progress is quite slow....

I have pmed you the contractor no
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Added on September 6, 2011, 1:14 pm
QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 8 2011, 10:04 PM)
I had a Malay Contractor with 4 indonesian with good skills

22x75
exclude paints
-2layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- 1 layer for Undercoat/Sealer
- Skimming to make wall smooth for Pearl Go painting ( Whole internal)
- 10 vdays completion
- 5 workers

Cost RM3500 after barganing.. The Contractor is very friendly as i am quite stern with the requirement. Daily audit the wall and ask them to patch any place even go small air pocket holes hehe


Added on June 8, 2011, 10:17 pm
Another tips for house painting

http://colouradvisor.jotun.com

Use this to visualize what paint you need by uploading your house picture for free compare to nippon


Added on June 8, 2011, 10:17 pm
Another tips for house painting

http://colouradvisor.jotun.com

Use this to visualize what paint you need by uploading your house picture for free compare to nippon
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What type of paint is your painter providing you for that kind of exorbitant price?  ohmy.gif
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They quote me ICI Pearl. Crazy rite?
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They quote me ICI Pearl. Crazy rite?
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Even if using ICI Pearl Glo, it is still expensive.
Why don't you try to get few other quotations from painters.
Then only decide. At least you do not get ripped off. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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Bro,

Can I have your painter contact no.?

Because I just got a quotation yesterday for my house 22x75 double storey link house, he has quoted me RM5.5k excluding paint. Charge me like a water fish...... mad.gif


Added on September 8, 2011, 12:46 am
QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:39 AM)
Done by selection after various comments and expirence on this renovation. Hence will go to 2) RM 2.7K, who introduce by my father and also paint my uncle house before...
Hopefully this the correct choice  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bro,

Can I have your painter contact no.?

Thank you

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Hi, after reading through this thread I'm still confuse about whether there's a need to use sealer and skim coat for interior wall or not? Are they supposed to be used regardless of new house or old house?

I was quoted 5K for interior only (exclude doors, door frame and grille). House is double storey intermediate 20X65 built up 1780 sqft, 4 rooms.
Not sure whether this include paints already or not but plan to call the contractor later.

Other than below questions, what other details I should get from him before deciding is this too expensive or reasonable?

Include skim coat and sealer (need for new house?)?
Include ceilings?
How many layers of paint (actually how many layer will be ideal for new house?)?
Can separate the quotation to workmanship and paints price, cause I want to buy my own paint?

I'm planning to have dark color feature walls in living room and all the bedrooms. Is this going to make the price higher?


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If you plan to use gloss paint, skim coat is a must. Else you see lots of wave. If your wall are precast (mostly on highrise) maybe no need, most precast wall are very straight.

Like my house, even if i plan to use normal matt paint, the original wall so bad, end up have to do Skim coat.

Sealer is better for new wall, is cheaper too. One layer of sealer is cheaper than paint.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 14 2011, 12:16 PM)
If you plan to use gloss paint, skim coat is a must. Else you see lots of wave. If your wall are precast (mostly on highrise) maybe no need, most precast wall are very straight.

Like my house, even if i plan to use normal matt paint, the original wall so bad, end up have to do Skim coat.

Sealer is better for new wall, is cheaper too. One layer of sealer is cheaper than paint.
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satin glo consider gloss paint? cos i prefer matt type...since nippon 20% discount sales is for gloss type.
so maybe i no need rush to buy end of month(promotion end), i plan to paint on end of OCT only.

sealer is 'base' white paint? i think it is good to cover the existing paint and at same time save another 1 layer of new paint.

1 layer sealer + 2 new layer paint.

how abt matex? same as sealer?

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If it did not specify sealer or primer is not a sealer.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 14 2011, 12:16 PM)
If you plan to use gloss paint, skim coat is a must. Else you see lots of wave. If your wall are precast (mostly on highrise) maybe no need, most precast wall are very straight.

Like my house, even if i plan to use normal matt paint, the original wall so bad, end up have to do Skim coat.

Sealer is better for new wall, is cheaper too. One layer of sealer is cheaper than paint.
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So I should go for 1 layer skim coat + 1 layer sealer + 2 layer paints?
I'm going for matt finish Nippon Spotless.

QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 14 2011, 12:31 PM)
satin glo consider gloss paint? cos i prefer matt type...since nippon 20% discount sales is for gloss type.
so maybe i no need rush to buy end of month(promotion end), i plan to paint on end of OCT only.
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That day I bought 2 can Nippon Spotless matt from Ace in Ikano Power Center, got 15% discount.
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i think outside shop should able to give more than 15%....

will go to check with vincent at PJ next week and update here
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 14 2011, 02:46 PM)
i think outside shop should able to give more than 15%....

will go to check with vincent at PJ next week and update here
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I think there's 20% out there but since I was buying 2 can 1L only so didn't want to drive around anymore.
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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Sep 14 2011, 04:20 PM)
I think there's 20% out there but since I was buying 2 can 1L only so didn't want to drive around anymore.
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If i got 4 room, 1 living and 1 dining...not sure need how many can?
and 1 can 5L can paint 6 door/door frame and blacony?
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This is what I heard from my painter. As a rough guide,
one 5L can/ room; for living & dining, use the room as guide

As for the gloss paint, for my case, managed to paint up to 11 door frames & doors using one 5L can.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 14 2011, 05:06 PM)
This is what I heard from my painter. As a rough guide,
one 5L can/ room; for living & dining, use the room as guide

As for the gloss paint, for my case, managed to paint up to 11 door frames & doors using one 5L can.
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you are referring to 1 can of 5L for one layer final coat or 2 layer final coat?
thanks.
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you are referring to 1 can of 5L for one layer final coat or 2 layer final coat?
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Is that really necessary to use Prime for Re-Paint Wall and Sealer for New Wall? Or actually can mixed? Have is that necessary to split between Exterior and interiod?

* Primer Undercoat for exterior repainting wall or
Sealer / Undercoat for exterior new wall.
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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Gosh...I'm wordering when contractors indicated they included Paint in the bill, how much water they actually added into the Paint and how thin the paint be...

Reason as I purchased own paint and Indo painting the whole house, and yet I still could see some area could see the old paint.Example: Exterior initial are require 20L (Front / Back), due to about reason i need get another 10L for another layer. This same goes to some area on interior too.


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QUOTE(matsuo_miyako @ Sep 6 2011, 01:12 PM)
do u mind pm me your sub-con's contact?
thanks!


Added on September 6, 2011, 1:13 pm
do u mind sharing your contractor's number?
thx!


Added on September 6, 2011, 1:14 pm
can i have your contractor's number? thx!
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Samy


Added on October 28, 2011, 11:57 amI have received many PM regarding about this painter contact. Please refer to the contact below


QUOTE(edwin32us @ Jun 12 2011, 10:33 AM)
Sami Bin Idris and his assistant..  biggrin.gif

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In addition his tiling work is good and reasonable..
3 Toilet floor tile about 130 sqft about 900 with  water proofing but excluding tile
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He is from Kepong and he is able to cover Klang Valley

Name : Samy
Number : 0163072380

Mention that Mr.Toh introduce

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Painter Contact Number
016 3072380
Samy


Added on October 28, 2011, 11:57 amI have received many PM regarding about this painter contact. Please refer to the contact below
He is from Kepong and he is able to cover Klang Valley

Name : Samy
Number : 0163072380

Mention that Mr.Toh introduce
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did you ask him to paint all the door and door frame?
What is the price if without skim coat on your case?

I got quote RM1500 for 1500sf condo to paint ALL area excluded paint.
so wonder what is the extra cost to skim coat all area?
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Oct 28 2011, 12:19 PM)
did you ask him to paint all the door and door frame?
What is the price if without skim coat on your case?

I got quote RM1500 for 1500sf condo to paint ALL area excluded paint.
so wonder what is the extra cost to skim coat all area?
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did you ask him to paint all the door and door frame?
Yes and the all the Window Grill, Outdoor Fence and Gate. ( Meaning the whole house)

What is the price if without skim coat on your case?
Without Skim Coat i am not sure but i believe it is negotiable with him. Why not call him and ask him to quote..
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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Oct 28 2011, 02:27 PM)
did you ask him to paint all the door and door frame?
Yes and the all the Window Grill, Outdoor Fence and Gate. ( Meaning the whole house)

What is the price if without skim coat on your case?
Without Skim Coat i am not sure but i believe it is negotiable with him. Why not call him and ask him to quote..
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OK. will try call him on site for quotation. plan to paint the house on december.

so u very satisfy with their workmanship?
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QUOTE(french_fry @ Jun 9 2011, 12:02 AM)
Which location do the contractor covers ? Do you mind sharing his contact number ?

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Beware of this Indonesian conman contractor Falto Warsito Yudya.
Tel:0137893835 / 0167489787
Absconded with people's money and left a mess behind.
Disappeared and victims looking for him if he is still in Johor.

Because you are not aware of their nature. 9 out of 10 are going to be your nightmares.

Go and read my post in the http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003102748980.

The moment you give the work to them, you are snared. Indonesians workmanship definitely sucks. The good workmanship that you may see is only in the beginning to con you in letting your guard down. Everything that an Indonesian worker produces, you must personally look at them when they do or you cannot imagine what is being covered.

I am like you, race and nationality blind until this painful experience with this conman and the rest of the Indonesian workers.

Please share my post to warn others. Thank you.



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I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Mind to share u painter contact....?
where is ur location...?

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[quote=cheewei_2004,Jan 17 2012, 02:48 PM]
[quote=Gary1981,Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM]
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Mind to share u painter contact....?
where is ur location...?
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If direct dealing with Indonesia worker then it might possible to get this price, but you need to supervise the work. I award to a Chinese, but he ask his indonesia worker to do the work, RM3.2k labour for 20x70 corner lot, paint whole house including roof.
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My house 22' x 70' end lot and I have being quoted RM8700 (include ICI paint of any color):

- skim coat for whole house
- maxilite for ceiling
- weather shield for exterior
- 1 or 2 layer of sealer for interior new wall.

do u guys think it is reasonable?

please advice.

thank you

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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Jan 17 2012, 04:02 PM)
If direct dealing with Indonesia worker then it might possible to get this price, but you need to supervise the work. I award to a Chinese, but he ask his indonesia worker to do the work, RM3.2k labour for 20x70 corner lot, paint whole house including roof.
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ic....can u provide me the contact of the chinese contractor....?
after new year, i might start to do painting.......


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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Jan 17 2012, 04:02 PM)
If direct dealing with Indonesia worker then it might possible to get this price, but you need to supervise the work. I award to a Chinese, but he ask his indonesia worker to do the work, RM3.2k labour for 20x70 corner lot, paint whole house including roof.
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ic....can u provide me the contact of the chinese contractor....?
after new year, i might start to do painting.......

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QUOTE(wynners22 @ Jan 18 2012, 10:26 AM)
My house 22' x 70' end lot and I have being quoted RM8700 (include ICI paint of any color):

- skim coat for whole house
- maxilite for ceiling
- weather shield for exterior
- 1 or 2 layer of sealer for interior new wall.

do u guys think it is reasonable?

please advice.

thank you
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It's reasonable though..I buy paint myself.. (Spent RM3500 ICI+Nippon).. then sub to a chinese painter (indon workers) RM3200..total RM6700..whole 20x70 corner lot with roof..
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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Hi Gary ...
Mind to share the painter contract number......?
i still looking painter......
thank you very much
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The painter i spoke to..quoted me RM6,500

for Corner lot 22 x 75 house. Job scope :

- Painting Interior and Exterior Wall
- Painting all grilles Interior and Exterior including Grilles at Garden
- Painting my Roof
- Skimming on selected areas which is rough (maybe 5-10% of whole house)
- Painting Garden's Wall
- NO PAINT included..if inclusive paint will be RM11k (good quality paint according to him)

Not sure if its too expensive or reasonable...any idea?

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jun 21 2011, 09:45 AM)
I am repainting my 2.5 storey house.  My subcon quoted me RM4k for painting all internal and external (except only the ceilings) with ICI Dulux Pentalite Easy Clean.  This is an existing house and the current pearl glo paint still OK except stain and dirt.  The sub con claim that I dont need a layer of sealer and undercoat as the existing paint is more than OK.  He will just paint 2 coats over it.  Is this OK?  How about the quote?  Thanks.
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Which location do the contractor covers ?
Do you mind sharing his contact number ?
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This is their quotation for workmanship for 2 storey 1980 sqft
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Hi, bro.
mind to share the painter contact.....
i oso looking painter..
thank you very much......


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let's share my pricing....
I get my contractor paint for me...2.5 storey terrace house, 22x70, include paint and labour, use ICI paint, include grill, wood door, all the walls outside the house and inside the house....
Total 5k
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Mind to share the painter contact..?
i still looking painter....
thank you very much......

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any recommended paint brand where the wall is easy to clean.
i got kid at home that likes drawing on the wall.
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i need recommendation on painter as well, want to do it by may..
and its a condo in kepong area...

and can we ask them to include paint ? or its bettter we buy the paint ourself ?

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Excuse me all, my contractor is quoting me RM13k to paint the entire house, internal and external, including fencing. RM13k include ICI paint..Is this a ridiculous price? Its a corner lot unit
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Kalau mau lagi senang kira... Total harga cat = harga upah

If total price of paint RM2000 = rm2000 labour cost

Not include with coating & sealing work
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Excuse me all, my contractor is quoting me RM13k to paint the entire house, internal and external, including fencing. RM13k include ICI paint..Is this a ridiculous price? Its a corner lot unit
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13k for painting i think really really high.
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That's why...got myself another contractor now
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anyone that need a good skillful painter at reasonable price can't drop me a message.

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anyone that need a good skillful painter at reasonable price can't drop me a message.
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how much charge for internal wall only for 2 storey link intermediate?
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how much charge for internal wall only for 2 storey link intermediate?
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hi guys
for new house, should i paint the interior? blush.gif
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My new house I got paint interior cause the existing paint so so only. Normally developer will just give you cheapo paint, so its actually up to you.


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Wanna ask a question.

If for a new house from developer, do we still need to put 1 coat of sealer for the interior & exterior?

Some told me since the developer ady painted...only need to paint the coloured paint is enuf. no need sealer..
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Roughly how much to paint the exterior of whole house (exterior only). It's a double storey banglow lot. Sorry not sure the exact measurement as it's an old house, maybe 40x80, 45x85 or 40x90. Possible to give quotes for all 3 sizes?


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My contractor charge me 7k with ICI paint.
Whole house (18x55) interior and exterior
other detail did not mention in quotation...need ask him to find out...

Another one quote me 3.8k labour only
Whole house (18x55) interior and exterior (paint whatever you can paint in the house)
Minor skim coat
Apply sealer on hacked / new wall only
He tole me price is bit high coz he need travel from Cheras (very jam)...

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If I got a new house, the original painting by developer is those cheaP type. Now I want to engage a painter. He says he used ici.
How many layers are needed for the paint?
Do I need undercoat?
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jun 27 2012, 08:57 PM)
Wanna ask a question.

If for a new house from developer, do we still need to put 1 coat of sealer for the interior & exterior?

Some told me since the developer ady painted...only need to paint the coloured paint is enuf. no need sealer..
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I think it is really hard to tell even though the developer may say they used a certain branded paint. There are many reasons they may have reduced the quality of the paint either to cut cost or make their painting job easier (ie: add water to make it less thick = easier to paint). You will only know the results when the surface become powdery after that. rclxub.gif

So if you have decided to repaint, then 1 coat of sealer (fyi, sealer is sealer, not water based white paint or matex or maxilite) would be needed for interior and exterior.

Then in the future when you want to re-paint the interior, just go over it with the color you want without sealer (unless there is peeling due to water damage). For exterior still have to clean and apply sealer. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(katmai81 @ Oct 14 2012, 10:13 PM)
If I got a new house, the original painting by developer is those cheaP type. Now I want to engage a painter. He says he used ici.
How many layers are needed for the paint?
Do I need undercoat?
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If confirm the paint is cheap type then definitely need sealer. Make sure your painter get the actual sealer and not just white paint.

As for the layers, if darker colours then go for 2 layers or more.

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I bought ICI, internal and external, with sealer total about RM2200 for whole house. My Indon worker charge me for labour paint RM3k
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hi all,

need an estimated quote for below unit.

1. end/corner double-storey lot, previously was a kindergarden so the exterior and interior are quite "colourful" as we know it.
2. original build up area is 20x70.
3. will extend another 10x40 on the side.
4. paint prefered to be suitable for exterior (weathershield), interior not quite sure perhaps ordinary finishing.
5. paint brand/quality, affordable and reputable.

how much roughly will this be?

thanks.
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hi all,

need an estimated quote for below unit.

1. end/corner double-storey lot, previously was a kindergarden so the exterior and interior are quite "colourful" as we know it.
2. original build up area is 20x70.
3. will extend another 10x40 on the side.
4. paint prefered to be suitable for exterior (weathershield), interior not quite sure perhaps ordinary finishing.
5. paint brand/quality, affordable and reputable.

how much roughly will this be?

thanks.
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You can roughly calculate how many litre you need. 1 litre of paint can cover approximately 60-70 square feet. You can do a basic calculation of your cost from there.

Hope that helps.
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hi, hope you don't mind I tumpang your thread.

I'm also looking to repaint my apartment and I have some questions regarding skim coating. My unit's walls are not smooth, can see wavy lines at certain spots.

Is skim coating means having to sand off the wall? I've read that to do skimming, it is best to do when the unit is empty cos of the dust etc.

How would you advise if I'm currently staying at my unit? Should I forget about skim coating and just repaint? I intend to paint WHITE whole unit except for the feature wall. OR is it recommended dun use WHITE if I am not skim coating (e.g. use beige instead maybe)?? Please advice me.

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QUOTE(^K^ @ Oct 14 2012, 09:19 PM)
My contractor charge me 7k with ICI paint.
Whole house (18x55) interior and exterior
other detail did not mention in quotation...need ask him to find out...

Another one quote me 3.8k labour only
Whole house (18x55) interior and exterior (paint whatever you can paint in the house)
Minor skim coat
Apply sealer on hacked / new wall only
He tole me price is bit high coz he need travel from Cheras (very jam)...
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Called Samy
labour to paint only = 4k
labour to paint + plaster = 6k

Nowadays painting a house really expensive ler... rclxub.gif
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If I want to pain my double-storey grey for 18x65 size, how much is that? And what kind of paint or brand should I use?
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If I want to pain my double-storey grey for 18x65 size, how much is that? And what kind of paint or brand should I use?
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Hi RickOoi,
The way I do it is to calculate the square footage of my walls. 60-70 square foot would need around 1 litre of paint for a single layer. So you could get an approximate amount of paint needed from there. It is hard to tell how much paint is needed for 18x65 size house as the number of walls may have different number.

Nippon, ICI and Jotun are good and popular brands and each brand have cheap, medium to high cost paints depending on features.

Features:
-washable
-covers hairline cracks
-low VOC
-fungus resistant
-UV protection (for exterior)
-low sheen
-high sheen
-matt finish
-just plain water based paint

Things to consider:
-Sealant needed? May have to check the condition of existing walls.
-Features required?
-Budget?
-Colors?

If you are getting a contractor to do it, they may recommend the paint to you, so it would be much easier if you know what features you want. Otherwise they might ask you to buy the paint and they just paint it, in that case you have to know what features you want and also the brand. Do some shopping around to find out what features is available and how much those brands are charging for those features.

If you are going to be repainting every 3-5 years, then getting the economical to medium cost paint would be more worth it. Such as Nippon Matex/Matex Gold.

Hope this info helps. smile.gif


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QUOTE(RickOoi @ Oct 15 2012, 10:12 PM)
If I want to pain my double-storey grey for 18x65 size, how much is that? And what kind of paint or brand should I use?
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Hi RickOoi,
The way I do it is to calculate the square footage of my walls. 60-70 square foot would need around 1 litre of paint for a single layer. So you could get an approximate amount of paint needed from there. It is hard to tell how much paint is needed for 18x65 size house as the number of walls may have different number.

Nippon, ICI and Jotun are good and popular brands and each brand have cheap, medium to high cost paints depending on features.

Features:
-washable
-covers hairline cracks
-low VOC
-fungus resistant
-UV protection (for exterior)
-low sheen
-high sheen
-matt finish
-just plain water based paint

Things to consider:
-Sealant needed? May have to check the condition of existing walls.
-Features required?
-Budget?
-Colors?

If you are getting a contractor to do it, they may recommend the paint to you, so it would be much easier if you know what features you want. Otherwise they might ask you to buy the paint and they just paint it, in that case you have to know what features you want and also the brand. Do some shopping around to find out what features is available and how much those brands are charging for those features.

If you are going to be repainting every 3-5 years, then getting the economical to medium cost paint would be more worth it. Such as Nippon Matex/Matex Gold.

Hope this info helps. smile.gif

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QUOTE(abitnuts @ Oct 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
Hi RickOoi,
The way I do it is to calculate the square footage of my walls.  60-70 square foot would need around 1 litre of paint for a single layer.  So you could get an approximate amount of paint needed from there.  It is hard to tell how much paint is needed for 18x65 size house as the number of walls may have different number. 

Nippon, ICI and Jotun are good and popular brands and each brand have cheap, medium to high cost paints depending on features.... 

If you are going to be repainting every 3-5 years, then getting the economical to medium cost paint would be more worth it.  Such as Nippon Matex/Matex Gold. 

Hope this info helps.  smile.gif
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Hey Abitnuts, you sure know your paints! Thanks for the advice.

How about painting the roof grey?
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Hey Abitnuts, you sure know your paints! Thanks for the advice.

How about painting the roof grey?
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I think all brands of paint have roof paints available. It would be more expensive than your interior/exterior paints and colors may be limited at small hardware shops.
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QUOTE(abitnuts @ Oct 19 2012, 11:58 AM)
I think all brands of paint have roof paints available.  It would be more expensive than your interior/exterior paints and colors may be limited at small hardware shops.
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Thanks again Abitnuts. Didn't know that roof paints will be more expensive than the rest. Another lesson learnt.
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Thanks again Abitnuts. Didn't know that roof paints will be more expensive than the rest. Another lesson learnt.
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Would like to make a correction. It would be more expensive than the economical and medium cost paints. RM100++.
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QUOTE(abitnuts @ Oct 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
Hi RickOoi,
The way I do it is to calculate the square footage of my walls.  60-70 square foot would need around 1 litre of paint for a single layer.  So you could get an approximate amount of paint needed from there.  It is hard to tell how much paint is needed for 18x65 size house as the number of walls may have different number. 

Nippon, ICI and Jotun are good and popular brands and each brand have cheap, medium to high cost paints depending on features. 

Features:
-washable
-covers hairline cracks
-low VOC
-fungus resistant
-UV protection (for exterior)
-low sheen
-high sheen
-matt finish
-just plain water based paint

Things to consider:
-Sealant needed?  May have to check the condition of existing walls.
-Features required?
-Budget?
-Colors?

If you are getting a contractor to do it, they may recommend the paint to you, so it would be much easier if you know what features you want.  Otherwise they might ask you to buy the paint and they just paint it, in that case you have to know what features you want and also the brand.  Do some shopping around to find out what features is available and how much those brands are charging for those features. 

If you are going to be repainting every 3-5 years, then getting the economical to medium cost paint would be more worth it.  Such as Nippon Matex/Matex Gold. 

Hope this info helps.  smile.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:39 am

Hi RickOoi,
The way I do it is to calculate the square footage of my walls.  60-70 square foot would need around 1 litre of paint for a single layer.  So you could get an approximate amount of paint needed from there.  It is hard to tell how much paint is needed for 18x65 size house as the number of walls may have different number. 

Nippon, ICI and Jotun are good and popular brands and each brand have cheap, medium to high cost paints depending on features. 

Features:
-washable
-covers hairline cracks
-low VOC
-fungus resistant
-UV protection (for exterior)
-low sheen
-high sheen
-matt finish
-just plain water based paint

Things to consider:
-Sealant needed?  May have to check the condition of existing walls.
-Features required?
-Budget?
-Colors?

If you are getting a contractor to do it, they may recommend the paint to you, so it would be much easier if you know what features you want.  Otherwise they might ask you to buy the paint and they just paint it, in that case you have to know what features you want and also the brand.  Do some shopping around to find out what features is available and how much those brands are charging for those features. 

If you are going to be repainting every 3-5 years, then getting the economical to medium cost paint would be more worth it.  Such as Nippon Matex/Matex Gold. 

Hope this info helps.  smile.gif
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Hi, what do you think about Nippon Weatherbond for exterior walls? It can last for 5 years according to the brochure. I don't plan to repaint in another 6-8 years.
If sealant is not applied on existing paint (smooth surface with no fungus, just very faded old color), is that fine?



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QUOTE(1282009 @ Oct 19 2012, 12:51 PM)
Hi, what do you think about Nippon Weatherbond for exterior walls? It can last for 5 years according to the brochure. I don't plan to repaint in another 6-8 years. 
If sealant is not applied on existing paint (smooth surface with no fungus, just very faded old color), is that fine?
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Sealant have to be applied before putting on Nippon Weatherbond. The thing about Weatherbond or Weathershield is the surface needs to be cleaned and treated properly, apply sealant and then apply paint then there is a possibility that it will last 5 years unsure.gif . If you want a confirmation that it will last 5years or more, then I believe Nippon and ICI have a crew of professional painters where they can confirm the paint will last > 5years. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(1282009 @ Oct 19 2012, 12:51 PM)
Hi, what do you think about Nippon Weatherbond for exterior walls? It can last for 5 years according to the brochure. I don't plan to repaint in another 6-8 years. 
If sealant is not applied on existing paint (smooth surface with no fungus, just very faded old color), is that fine?
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I got this OFF Nippon website icon_idea.gif

Surface Preparation:
Remove all loose, defective paint or powdery residues by wire brushing, scraping or high pressure
water jet. Treat any areas affected by fungus growth with Nippon Fungicidal Wash Solution. Repair
cracks, uneven surfaces with Nippon ACS Putty or suitable fillers. Smoothen the putty / filler areas
with sandpaper. Allow all surfaces to dry completely prior to painting. Avoid painting when the
moisture content and alkalinity of the walls are still high. (Recommended painting specification
requires the moisture content of the walls to be below 16% measured by protimeter and alkalinity of
the walls to be below pH9.)

Previously Painted Surfaces:
Remove all unstable paint film, loose chalk, dust and foreign matter. Make good any surface defects,
clean off and dry. Spot prime with NIPPON VINILEX 5100 WALL SEALER.

This post has been edited by abitnuts: Oct 19 2012, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(abitnuts @ Oct 19 2012, 07:16 PM)
Sealant have to be applied before putting on Nippon Weatherbond.  The thing about Weatherbond or Weathershield is the surface needs to be cleaned and treated properly, apply sealant and then apply paint then there is a possibility that it will last 5 years  unsure.gif .  If you want a confirmation that it will last 5years or more, then I believe Nippon and ICI have a crew of professional painters where they can confirm the paint will last > 5years.  thumbup.gif


Added on October 19, 2012, 7:22 pm
I got this OFF Nippon website  icon_idea.gif

Surface Preparation:
Remove all loose, defective paint or powdery residues by wire brushing, scraping or high pressure
water jet.  Treat any areas affected by fungus growth with Nippon Fungicidal Wash Solution.  Repair
cracks, uneven surfaces with Nippon ACS Putty or suitable fillers.  Smoothen the putty / filler areas
with sandpaper.  Allow all surfaces to dry completely prior to painting.  Avoid painting when the
moisture content and alkalinity of the walls are still high.  (Recommended painting specification
requires the moisture content of the walls to be below 16% measured by protimeter and alkalinity of
the walls to be below pH9.)

Previously Painted Surfaces:
Remove all unstable paint film, loose chalk, dust and foreign matter.  Make good any surface defects,
clean off and dry.  Spot prime with NIPPON VINILEX 5100 WALL SEALER.
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post Nov 1 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:29 PM)
I got a quote for entire house @ RM2k

- my house @ 22x75 double storey
- exclude paints
-3 layers for external
- 2 layer for internal
- providing touch up
- 6-8 days completion
- 3 workers

Do u think is reasonable?

I got to know some charge for daily paint @ RM70-90 per day. If to use 3 workers @ RM70 is RM210 per day, for 8 days will be total RM1680...hmmmm

Any comments?
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WOW Bro...U got yourself a very reasonable price. Should be more than that. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:47 PM

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The cost RM2600 including labour to do below services:

1. painting ceiling, walls, grills, doors, balcony
2. wall skimming for 3 rooms
3. paints

Is this price considered pricey for a 800 sqft apt?

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post Dec 21 2012, 02:34 PM

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Delete - wrong thread

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post Dec 21 2012, 11:40 PM

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Apologies if this is not the right thread for this question.
What do you guys think is a good way to maintain powder coated gate?

I don't expect to be able to DIY redoing the coating. So I wonder if anyone has experience or suggestions or how maintain and touch-up the gate over its lifetime.
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QUOTE(frost99 @ Dec 22 2012, 12:40 AM)
Apologies if this is not the right thread for this question.
What do you guys think is a good way to maintain powder coated gate?

I don't expect to be able to DIY redoing the coating. So I wonder if anyone has experience or suggestions or how maintain and touch-up the gate over its lifetime.
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You can try to buy the vanish from hardware shop and apply a layer vanish for your powder coated gate. It will make your gate look new and more last.
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post Feb 5 2014, 07:23 AM

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Dear Paint Dealers,

Please quote your price for below item:


NIPPON BRAND
Matex
Brilliant White 1001
18L x 2

Vinilex Fresh
Basket Beige 4061 P
18L x 4

Vinilex Easywash
Basket Beige 4061 P
18L x 4

Weatherbond
Moccasin Mook 9519
18L

Weatherbond
Coffee House 9517
5L


PU Recoatable Finish
Congo Brown 1126
5L

Slate Finish Matt
18L

Please quote price ASAP.
Puchong area
Contact 012- 903 6355

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post Sep 20 2015, 09:17 AM

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Hi all,

I need painting service for duplex condo, 2383 sqft. Kitchen n toilets fully tiled.

(1) interior walls,
(2) Grills for 2 balcony and 1 main front firerated door,
(3) ceiling
(4) door - 9 doors (excl front main door)
(5) skim coat interior walls (no need for toilets n kitchens as tileup to ceiling). Some walls that will be boarded up as wardrobe so no need.
(6) 5-6 colors for rooms incl living and dining room

Need primer/sealant and 2 coats of paint.

Pls quote labor and materials excl paint.
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post Sep 20 2015, 11:38 AM

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My house build up 1800 sq ft Semi D and painting workmanship cost RM2k too.

 

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