what I think is... the one who go for Mistu Lancer here in Malaysia now are really not that smart...

The sales guy said Inspira using normal yellow light coz xenon/HID lights are too bright.

imo, the drive train is lock stock & barrel from Mitsu. I dont think Proton wanna invest in putting up an assembly facility just to assemble MIVEC engines, because i read at paul tan's blog that Proton invest very minimal in coming up with Inspira.

Its the same with my Savvy, i dont think Savvy's engine is assemble locally.

lancer has halogen reflector headlights as well.

unless they changed to projector.

oh ya..regarding headlights,even the 2010 inspira has autoheadlamps.

only the 2011 lancer has it.

hmm I'm not sure if they have changed it >< and yes inspira 2.0 has auto headlamps. I think only inspira 2.0 has it.

i'm sure you READ about the different engine spec, a lot is guessing ECU was programmed differently, no one can actually confirm.

I'm sure you can READ that i say MIVEC is a TERM. CVT is also a TERM. It doesn't say who manufacture it. It will looks damn good if Proton can print on their brochure, our Engine and Transmission Made by Mitsubishi or Japan, which they didn't. Again as I said, I won't go into arguement on these grey area. I can't prove it, so as you and a lot of other people.

Lotus Handling sounds good, manufactured by Lotus? LOL, it's a term, don't get too excited about it.

Unless you put in more solid facts, there is no point arguing.

LoL yea and temporary some people said that the suspension has problems which makes me think that I need to change those suspension once the 3 years warranty are off. and feed back from layman he said when u are turning at sharp corners Inspira seems like going to buang for lancer it has better grip. Inspira accelerates faster though >.> that's what they say. I would like to hear more feedbacks from Inspira Users

This post has been edited by Daniel520: Jun 6 2011, 03:47 PM

READ, where 4b11 is made in Shiga Plant

wikipedia hard to READ?

Since when the engine spec is different? have a look at mitsu lancer singapore. proton also involved there?

the ECU is of different coding as compared to lancer, but it is still by mitsu.

READ the inspira thread. READ

The Mitsubishi 4B1 engine is a range of all-alloy straight-4 engines built at Mitsubishi's Japanese "World Engine" powertrain plant in Shiga on the basis of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA).[1][2][3] Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner (Chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai). The cylinder block and other basic structural parts of the engine were jointly developed by the GEMA companies, but the intake and exhaust manifolds, the cylinder head’s intake and exhaust ports, and other elements related to engine tuning were independently developed by Mitsubishi.[1]

4B11
[edit] Specifications
Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC
Displacement 2.0 L (1,998 cc)
Bore 86 mm
Stroke 86 mm
Compression ratio 10:1
Fuel system ECI multiple
Peak power 108-114 kW (147-155 PS) at 6,000 rpm
Peak torque 198 N·m (146 ft·lbf) at 4,250 rpm
[edit] Applications

2007 Mitsubishi Lancer
2009 Mitsubishi Outlander (Facelift Europe)
2010 Proton Inspira 2.0P

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Added on June 6, 2011, 4:07 pmdont need to think.

the reason is that feel like buang is the higher profile tyres and the soft set up by proton

no doubt the lancer has more outright grip, but the inspira is much more predictable and comfortable.

it was written in most reviews that the lancer is too tail sensitive.

http://www.mitsubishicars.com.sg/cars/lanc...lspecifications



This post has been edited by ckk125: Jun 6 2011, 04:11 PM

then i blame it on mitsubishi malaysia for the over spec for making things look good.

http://mitsubishi-motors.com.my/lancer-2-gt-specification/

Engine
Code 4B11
Type DOHC MIVEC 2.0-litre (16-valve)
Displacement (cc) 1,998
Max. output (EEC Net) – kW(PS) / rpm 114 (155) / 6,000
Max. torque (EEC Net) – N-m(kg-m) / rpm 199 (20.3) / 4,250

well ya 4 extra kW, and 2 extra N.m is nothing and I'm not gonna make a fuss out of it if you want to argue that it's not gonna make much different practically, but the fact is the spec IS different or is Mitsubishi Malaysia over spec?

Btw, you really make my day I had a great laugh. I was really amazed by your quote from WiKi and the amount you READ and argue other doesn't READ enough. You quote from all around the world, when you could easily get Mitsu Malaysia vs Inspira. Straight forward comparison. Not sure why you are not doing that, or maybe you realise you know it's different, and hopefully I didn't READ enough

It is about sharing.

you really make my day.

i was amazed by your ignorance

This post has been edited by ckk125: Jun 6 2011, 04:37 PM

Should not rely on wikipedia info coz Wikipedia info can be changed by anyone.

then believe valve_300b

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Added on June 6, 2011, 4:39 pmhow about mitsu singapore?

oh ya..found it. have a pleasant read.

Mitsu press release

This post has been edited by ckk125: Jun 6 2011, 04:41 PM

haha CAN YOU READ ??? i'm not too sure why Proton put in a slightly lower number when they are actually the same as argued by you Well but then again, I don't have prove that it's the same or not the same, so I blame it on mitsubishi malaysia for the over spec marketing. Damn you Mitsubishi, now the smart guys get it LOL

My ignorance, i'm terribly sorry smart guy I can't READ. LOL

I've read before but the specs provided by Proton is still different from Mitsubishi and no one knows why. The fact is that the number is not the same as mitsubishi ==. How many evidence u provide can't change the numbers.

I think the difference in spec is due to ron97 being the highest available fuel for consumers in malaysia. the specs on the lancer is probably for the japanese market where they can get ron99 everywhere. hence the slightly higher power.

erm, the one quoted by mitsubishi singapore?

anyway, doesnt matter, i just want to share and if you dont trust it, i'll still enjoy my car.

OOO >< if its so than there is no worries XD

Not really...Wikipedia ROBOCOPs prowls and monitors the site very rigid...i tried change somethings before....so fast kena changed balik...kanasai...and i commented on the political scenario of our country...hehe...

I know and appreciate what you have shared, don't worry bout it I'm leaning toward Inspira rather than other cars. I would like to give Proton a chance. Even though 60% Inspira is from Mitsubishi.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 5:03 pmooo lolx >< wao than its reliable ! XD thanks for clearing things out.

This post has been edited by Daniel520: Jun 6 2011, 05:03 PM

LOL next time if u wan to share, don't quote and bold unless u have solid facts to support you. Enjoy your ride before the Proton symptom hunts u and give u nightmares. LOL.