Is anyone know how is the current pay for fresh graduate engineer (E1) in petronas ?
i heard is 4k, does it include any allowance ?
Fresh Graduate Pay for Engineer in Petronas
Fresh Graduate Pay for Engineer in Petronas
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Jun 2 2011, 11:30 PM, updated 15y ago
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Is anyone know how is the current pay for fresh graduate engineer (E1) in petronas ?
i heard is 4k, does it include any allowance ? |
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Jun 2 2011, 11:33 PM
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3.8k/4k ~ Very nice remuneration
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only for Bumi
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@Xavier121
Proves how little do you know with that statement. noob ! |
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no allowance at all ?
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got jalan? i wanna in also haha
been working 3 years....basic still havent reach 3.8k.... ps : i am degree in engineering |
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Jun 3 2011, 10:48 AM
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anyone in petronas can answer tis ?
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oh well...majority of petronas are malays thou...only non-bumis with great result can join petronas
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Jun 8 2011, 10:12 AM
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So high pay uh Petronas?Haha, normal ler goverment based company and majority ruled what? so minority have to slag to other companies...hehe..How long ur in Malaysia? 1 month is it? hehe...
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Jun 8 2011, 11:07 AM
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the money's pretty good. heard the bonus can be quite high too.
Added on June 8, 2011, 11:08 amFound this on glassdoor: http://www.glassdoor.com/Bonuses/Petronas-Bonuses-E8270.htm# This post has been edited by blogtowkay: Jun 8 2011, 11:08 AM |
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The petronas engineer basic salary for fresh grad is 3.5k - 4.5k.
For IT and other department i think is around 3-4k. And got technical allowance some more. |
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they do hire all races... just that majority is bumis
this is probably cause by the mindset of ppl when applying... don't be so narrow minded... |
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QUOTE(BRC @ Jun 8 2011, 11:19 AM) they do hire all races... just that majority is bumis But how about career advancement opportunities? Will it be a same fair game for all races when it comes to promotion, ideas contribution, decision making policies, adjustments to company procedures and so on?this is probably cause by the mindset of ppl when applying... don't be so narrow minded... |
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the statement above, 'only for bumi', thats what makes certain race the majority in Petronas,
have you actually applied for it? |
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Bonuses are big numbers, but I have heard the career development and the laddEr to go up will be very hard. Nevermind there always international companies who want no bumi's. But not being racist, petronas do hire non bumis and the forumer stated only bumis is wrong abt it.
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Our NOC still has a long way before turning into an idea churning, open mindset IOC
But it is getting there... I'm in an IOC with friends in NOC... |
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All new executive (E1) starting salary RM4000.
After a year in service, you will get increment depend on position/job critical. Normally technical position will get ++500, geologist will get more. *** no more allowance except shift, offshore..etc This post has been edited by mamadox: Jun 8 2011, 01:40 PM |
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NOC is paying better than the IOC I'm in.. where they give out only 5% increment... 200+...
in Msia... better joining NOC.. |
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NOC - National oil comp
IOC - International Oil Comp This post has been edited by BRC: Jun 8 2011, 02:26 PM |
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Besides Petronas what else company is considered NOC?
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senior engineer/executive in petronas easily get 10k+
wow that's a very long serving (20 years +) manager's salary in my current place zzzz Added on June 8, 2011, 6:24 pm QUOTE(mamadox @ Jun 8 2011, 01:39 PM) All new executive (E1) starting salary RM4000. so the allowance has been absorbed in basic pay eh?After a year in service, you will get increment depend on position/job critical. Normally technical position will get ++500, geologist will get more. *** no more allowance except shift, offshore..etc good better bonuses This post has been edited by Kritikal: Jun 8 2011, 06:24 PM |
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4K for fresh grad and once you go for your technical interview and you're considered in the scarce skillsets (usually Skill Group 10 and Skill Group 09 - Petroleum Engineering and Geoscience) then you will get extra technical allowances.
Career advancement is accelerated, previously with the Grade 20-32 system, it takes on average 3 years for a promotion (from one grade to another) but with the new Grade system (E1-E7), you are expected to be promoted within 5 years for each grade and in the case of those outstanding staff, E3 will come bay within 6-7 years There are Non-Bumis is Top Management in Petronas, the EVP for the E&P business is a Non-Bumi, the EVP for Finance is Non-Bumi, the VP for Carigali Domestic is Non-Bumi ... So how many Bumi in Public Bank is in the top management? Let's not go this route shall we. |
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Jun 8 2011, 06:33 PM) 4K for fresh grad and once you go for your technical interview and you're considered in the scarce skillsets (usually Skill Group 10 and Skill Group 09 - Petroleum Engineering and Geoscience) then you will get extra technical allowances. I am not arguing with you but just to correct your statement you made.Career advancement is accelerated, previously with the Grade 20-32 system, it takes on average 3 years for a promotion (from one grade to another) but with the new Grade system (E1-E7), you are expected to be promoted within 5 years for each grade and in the case of those outstanding staff, E3 will come bay within 6-7 years There are Non-Bumis is Top Management in Petronas, the EVP for the E&P business is a Non-Bumi, the EVP for Finance is Non-Bumi, the VP for Carigali Domestic is Non-Bumi ... So how many Bumi in Public Bank is in the top management? Let's not go this route shall we. I do not agree with you that Public Bank got lesser bumi in top managment positions:- Abu Hassan Assari bin Ibrahim - CEO Public Islamic Abd Razak bin Md Dali - Senior General Manager Sulaiman bin Abd Manap - Senior General Manager Nasaruddin bin Arshad - Chief Economist Officer Salmah bt Mohd Yunus (Cik) - Group HR Manager Nizam bin Hj Zainal Abidin - Group Security Director.... etc etc and many more as I lazy to cut & paste... a simple Google search will reveal that. |
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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Jun 8 2011, 07:34 PM) I am not arguing with you but just to correct your statement you made. Thats was a fast homework done...I do not agree with you that Public Bank got lesser bumi in top managment positions:- Abu Hassan Assari bin Ibrahim - CEO Public Islamic Abd Razak bin Md Dali - Senior General Manager Sulaiman bin Abd Manap - Senior General Manager Nasaruddin bin Arshad - Chief Economist Officer Salmah bt Mohd Yunus (Cik) - Group HR Manager Nizam bin Hj Zainal Abidin - Group Security Director.... etc etc and many more as I lazy to cut & paste... a simple Google search will reveal that. Pity we cant argue the matter... |
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Jun 8 2011, 06:33 PM) if non bumi can get d lesen to start another oil comp, petronas has no stand.if non bumi can get d lesen to start another car manufacturing comp, proton will close down, n look at boon siew n hong leong yammie anyway, MAS has alot of bumi n airasia is not dominated by bumi, who s making moolah Added on June 8, 2011, 8:11 pmwhat i wanna say is... if non bumi can have d lesen to open a oil company, we dun even look at petronas, coz it wont last This post has been edited by endau02: Jun 8 2011, 08:11 PM |
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no, they stil hire non bumi, just for the sake n doing all d donkey work for them n those bumis will take d credit n shake leg
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Jun 9 2011, 01:00 PM
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the very first question was asking about salary range..but end up arguing about about racism...WTH???
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Jun 8 2011, 08:28 PM) no, they stil hire non bumi, just for the sake n doing all d donkey work for them n those bumis will take d credit n shake leg wat a narrow mindset u have there.. it also apply to those MNC that majority is non-bumis.. I work with 2 MNC and your quote "just for the sake n doing all d donkey work for them n those non-bumis will take d credit n shake leg" can apply at there.. lets not be racist and try to prevent the discussion on racist matter.. TS ask about salary meh not who majority or minority.. |
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For fresh graduate, 3.5k to 4k is acceptable...Even so lucky if get that basic.
But, i wonder Petronas will pay that amount to new and freshies person.. There s a lot thing to arrange; training/monitoring and etc.. But, for experience from another company (at least 5 years) and go to petronas, can go as high as 10k plus allowance. (my sis in law did that). Need to gain experience before achieve that level. |
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QUOTE(azliayob @ Jun 9 2011, 04:13 PM) For fresh graduate, 3.5k to 4k is acceptable...Even so lucky if get that basic. Fresh grad get 4k starting salary. no matter what race u are. plus all the benefits..n bonus at the end of financial year. refer to azraiel post. he is one of Petronas staff. But, i wonder Petronas will pay that amount to new and freshies person.. There s a lot thing to arrange; training/monitoring and etc.. But, for experience from another company (at least 5 years) and go to petronas, can go as high as 10k plus allowance. (my sis in law did that). Need to gain experience before achieve that level. I did benefit from the new salary scale. but recently change to a new company (no longer with PET) with higher salary. if u are interested to join, can apply. Petronas is making big money rite now. if u have experience, u can nego with HR. |
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QUOTE(faizal1211 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:30 AM) Fresh grad get 4k starting salary. no matter what race u are. plus all the benefits..n bonus at the end of financial year. refer to azraiel post. he is one of Petronas staff. Correction. I worked with PETRONAS before. I had a lot of friends that are non bumi and it really pisses me off when people start saying that PETRONAS is racist etc. What a load of crap. I hired so many Malaysians when I was in PETRONAS and to have some Tom d*** and Harry saying that it's only for show also pisses me off. I did benefit from the new salary scale. but recently change to a new company (no longer with PET) with higher salary. if u are interested to join, can apply. Petronas is making big money rite now. if u have experience, u can nego with HR. Anyway, PETRONAS pay now is very competitive and they have also decided to accept those ex-workers who left before, maybe I will return there someday. |
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Jun 9 2011, 08:02 PM) Correction. I worked with PETRONAS before. I had a lot of friends that are non bumi and it really pisses me off when people start saying that PETRONAS is racist etc. What a load of crap. I hired so many Malaysians when I was in PETRONAS and to have some Tom d*** and Harry saying that it's only for show also pisses me off. can i ask something? is it Petronas 'deposit resume' in their website the only way to submit the resume?Anyway, PETRONAS pay now is very competitive and they have also decided to accept those ex-workers who left before, maybe I will return there someday. |
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QUOTE(faizal1211 @ Jun 9 2011, 04:30 PM) Fresh grad get 4k starting salary. no matter what race u are. plus all the benefits..n bonus at the end of financial year. refer to azraiel post. he is one of Petronas staff. No, thanks. I looking forward for self employment right now.I did benefit from the new salary scale. but recently change to a new company (no longer with PET) with higher salary. if u are interested to join, can apply. Petronas is making big money rite now. if u have experience, u can nego with HR. |
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I wonder what's the paycheck for the electrical engineer that working with carigali? Is it the same with DE, geologist,etc..consider this for fresh grad...also how about the offshore allowance? |
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Does anyone know the market rate for project team in KPOC/CPOC/CTOC?
my exp is close to 5 years... I would appreciate if you can give me some indication because I am having my interview there soon.. |
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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jun 12 2011, 06:10 PM) I wonder what's the paycheck for the electrical engineer that working with carigali? Is it the same with DE, geologist,etc..consider this for fresh grad...also how about the offshore allowance? I suspect it will still be 4K for the EE on grade E1. I don't believe that they segregate the fresh grads or those in E1 into different remuneration scheme that early. Usually after a couple of years once you're in your individual skill groups then the technical skill allowance (DE, Geoscience, Petroleum Engineer) will kick in.Then again, my info is kinda outdated. |
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hi.how much is the pay for non petrol engineer at petronas?i mean like it department.
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WTF..
yo, people who comment on this thread n being chauvinism is not welcome.. go blame ur mother for not raising u well that u can't compete with others instead of just giving reason on ur being born with or without certain race.. if ur so unhappy in living here then go migrate to north/south pole where u can turn white n then maybe after that skin color wont matter.. we are taking bout salary here... |
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QUOTE(eazrie13 @ Jun 13 2011, 02:57 PM) WTF.. Relaks bro .... this kinda thing always happens. Have to live with it. We try as much to stay on topic but it's very hard ...yo, people who comment on this thread n being chauvinism is not welcome.. go blame ur mother for not raising u well that u can't compete with others instead of just giving reason on ur being born with or without certain race.. if ur so unhappy in living here then go migrate to north/south pole where u can turn white n then maybe after that skin color wont matter.. we are taking bout salary here... |
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To all the senior who ever attended Petronas Structured Interview, may u all share what topics and situation of CASE STUDY and ROLE PLAY given to u???
I have gone through and passede telephone chi-chat session followed by online ability test... And now i have confirmed with Petronas HR personnel that they will arrange an interview with me soon, and i want to get this job very much!!! ... I applied for engineering executive E1 position. i only hav abt 2 years of experience but without any O&G experience. so may all the senior out there pls share ur experience with me a) CASE STUDY TOPICS b) ROLE PLAY SITUATION THX FOR UR INFO AND YOUR ASSISTANT WILL BE APPRECIATED This post has been edited by gsc12345: Jul 1 2011, 01:18 PM |
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Is Petronas ever hire diploma holder as engineer but with 5++ years exp?
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QUOTE(gsc12345 @ Jul 1 2011, 09:29 AM) To all the senior who ever attended Petronas Structured Interview, may u all share what topics and situation of CASE STUDY and ROLE PLAY given to u??? haiI have gone through and passede telephone chi-chat session followed by online ability test... And now i have confirmed with Petronas HR personnel that they will arrange an interview with me soon, and i want to get this job very much!!! ... I applied for engineering executive E1 position. i only hav abt 2 years of experience but without any O&G experience. so may all the senior out there pls share ur experience with me a) CASE STUDY TOPICS b) ROLE PLAY SITUATION THX FOR UR INFO AND YOUR ASSISTANT WILL BE APPRECIATED how do you apply for the post? thanks |
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now fresh grads regardless of which dept they are entering to will start with rm4k basic salary. but i do have a friend who has working experience of 2/3 yrs, his previous salary was less than 3k, when he joined petronas with 2 yrs exp, his salary is also rm3.5k (during that time fresh grads earn rm3.5k).
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Jul 1 2011, 08:55 PM
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moderator, please ban these racists people.
why must go off-topic & raise sensitive issues? numbskulls. |
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Electrical engineer will be around 4k?? wow..quite a nice salary..^^
so, how to apply for electrical engineer in Petronas?? if pass all the interview, will have the chances to go offshore?? |
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QUOTE(77hunter @ Jul 1 2011, 09:54 AM) I'm not sure about starter-ups but if you're a technician in Petronas you can take exams if you'd like to 'upgrade' to being an engineer. You're valued more as well, since you have technical skills that a lot of engineers do not. |
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New fresh grad (engineer) salary will be rm5k starting next month
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hi all..
I will be having an interview session with petronas carigali in coming few days.. I am civil engineering graduate with some experiences but not with oil & gas field..btw, i am malay.. any tips for me to face that interview? Thanks |
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Mar 18 2012, 04:30 PM
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Heard the new pay of RM5k will not cover a lot of benefits. So maybe it's not as good as it looks.
Anyway, anyone know if this figure only covers engineering graduates? |
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PETRONAS medical benefit is covered by ING since 2003 except for cases where ING has no coverage such as maternity. Roughly, you can get the same coverage (bar maternity) by getting a coverage that costs you around 4k premium a year. The 1k extra salary (this is base salary) already pays you an extra 12k per year (more than enough for the medical premium) and let's not forget an extra 5k a year if you use the same amount of bonus (5 months this year). A good 8% increment per year should cover the medical premium charges after 2 years. (17k extra a year compounded by 8%). I am not even going to mention the extra EPF money that 1K is bringing in a year.
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 18 2012, 09:47 PM) PETRONAS medical benefit is covered by ING since 2003 except for cases where ING has no coverage such as maternity. Roughly, you can get the same coverage (bar maternity) by getting a coverage that costs you around 4k premium a year. The 1k extra salary (this is base salary) already pays you an extra 12k per year (more than enough for the medical premium) and let's not forget an extra 5k a year if you use the same amount of bonus (5 months this year). A good 8% increment per year should cover the medical premium charges after 2 years. (17k extra a year compounded by 8%). I am not even going to mention the extra EPF money that 1K is bringing in a year. And the new batch (after June 2010) will be also losing the house and car loan. The house loan can save you a lot actually. |
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QUOTE(mangoman @ Mar 18 2012, 05:38 PM) And the new batch (after June 2010) will be also losing the house and car loan. The house loan can save you a lot actually. Housing loan in Petronas is at 4% interest rate. Most bank now give you at least BLR -2% (or around 4.5%), that's 0.5% extra interest probably going to cost you an extra 150 ringgit a month for a 300K loan (not sure, but someone can correct me). Car loans are also the same, an extra 150 a month. The 1K extra is more than enough to cover the "benefit" lost and remember this 1K will the base salary where all other stuff is based on (bonus, increments, promotion etc etc) is quite significant, an 8% increment based on 5K is 80 ringgit more a month that an 8% increment on a 4K base salary.I could not buy a house when I was in Petronas until I completed my 4 year service (using petronas loan) and that was for a 200K apartment, with 5K base salary, a fresh grad can immediately get a 250K loan from any bank and in this property market, the faster you can buy a property, the better it is. |
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Im student of chemical engineering seeking for Internship placement (July-September 2012).. Anyone can help me?
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Mar 19 2012, 04:23 PM
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well regarding pay, from my source what I heard was the 5k for fresh grads is for those from UTP. Other unis maybe 3.5k to 4k?
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Mar 19 2012, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(Mooi @ Mar 18 2012, 05:15 PM) Are you a PETRONAS employee?? Otherwise, stop spouting nonsense. Just because you are not qualified enough to be recruited, doesn't mean it practices inequality or discrimination. Fyi, I have seniors of different races working for PETRONAS. Sorry to said that, everyone in this world know that most Malaysian GLC company which include Petronas does have a Quota system, same like our local university system... |
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Mar 19 2012, 06:50 PM
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THis is from my experience..
Petronas - 4K..E1 Grade..super good benefits Kencana - 2.5k..add Rm500 after confirmed..no additional allowance..benefit worse.. MMHE - 3k-3.5k & got O.T for Engineer..after Technip buy some share..benefits good Shell - 4.5k.. super good benefits.. |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 10 2012, 02:12 PM) goverment want to feed those bumiputera again......eventhough most of them not capable, but goverment stil reserve so many quota for them in University and Petronas...wht a sad country.... Let me drill this into your thick racist skull.1. There are six members of PETRONAS Excos. Mind you these are very powerful people in the organization. Two of them are: ![]() Dato' Wee Yiaw Hin Executive Vice President Exploration & Production Business​ ![]() Datuk Manharlal Ratilal Executive Vice President Finance​ Do these gentlemen look like bumiputera to you? If PETRONAS "want (sic) to feed those bumiputera", why do they get promoted to the Executive VP level? Can your racist brain give us any answer? 2. Do you know how the first PETRONAS office looks like? ![]() This. If most of PETRONAS staff are not capable, can your racist brain explains how they could transform their office to ![]() this? Let's hear how a racist like you can give us satisfactory answers. |
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QUOTE(kristal @ Mar 19 2012, 11:46 PM) Let me drill this into your thick racist skull. Goverment overprotect bumi is a fact, and implemented in petronas n university. Yes the 2 persons that mention nt bumi, but majority staffs are bumi n i belive petronas hire them nt becoz of capability1. There are six members of PETRONAS Excos. Mind you these are very powerful people in the organization. Two of them are: ![]() Dato' Wee Yiaw Hin Executive Vice President Exploration & Production Business​ ![]() Datuk Manharlal Ratilal Executive Vice President Finance​ Do these gentlemen look like bumiputera to you? If PETRONAS "want (sic) to feed those bumiputera", why do they get promoted to the Executive VP level? Can your racist brain give us any answer? 2. Do you know how the first PETRONAS office looks like? ![]() This. If most of PETRONAS staff are not capable, can your racist brain explains how they could transform their office to ![]() this? Let's hear how a racist like you can give us satisfactory answers. |
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Mar 20 2012, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(rabloo @ Mar 20 2012, 07:48 AM) Well, i am no in oil and gas....but not need to argue la..i am not the racist..the goverment is the racist.....keep over protecting the bumi status... look at singapore...lead by capable people, not based on your race...now become so powerful than malaysia...malaysia always want to maintain this kind of protect bumi policy, even we gt much resources like petro, plantation...but we are so much left behind than singapore...shame on this over protect bumi policy.....grow up...dun so depend on goverment... if i am capable bumi...i will sure have some pride and tell goverment .."please stop protecting us!!!"... |
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QUOTE(rabloo @ Mar 20 2012, 08:48 AM) I believe most of the non-bumi have applied to Petronas be4, but in the end there are all in Shell, Esso or other O&G company.. Until now they dare not list out how many non-bumi / bumi % working in Petronas or other GLC company... But from what i have told in an interview i done be4 with a local O&G company, the manager told me that if 1 Chinese out, only 1 Chinese can come in to replace it and not others.. This is the quota they set.. That why that day i went interview so many Chinese ppl over there.. But sadly i am not listed.. Anyway there is no fairness in Malaysian system, if really they are selecting the best to work with them i think the whole Petronas will be full wif foreigners.. The only bumi i respected in Petronas is Hassan Merican.. Really a talented person.. This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 20 2012, 08:35 AM |
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Mar 20 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 07:42 AM) Goverment overprotect bumi is a fact, and implemented in petronas n university. Yes the 2 persons that mention nt bumi, but majority staffs are bumi n i belive petronas hire them nt becoz of capability I have been following this thread for quite some times now and I feel I have to share what I think with you. Take note that PETRONAS is "half-private / half-gomen". Things were somewhat controlled by the gomen. So the performance may not be at peak based on your expert-observation. Yes, many PETRONAS staffs are Bumi. But I belive non-bumis were given equal opportunity too. I know a senior manager and he is not a bumi. Dont think there's ever a racism culture being promoted in PETRONAS. If u are saying that every single company that employ more bumi than non-bumi is racist companies, then I can say KHL is pretty racist too. Capabilities do not associate with skin colors. Capabilities are individually-based to each person. If u say that PETRONAS would be much performed if more non-bumis are hired, well there's a chance that PETRONAS will give out salary like KHL. |
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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Mar 20 2012, 08:38 AM) I have been following this thread for quite some times now and I feel I have to share what I think with you. "non-bumis were given equal opportunity too".............are u sure???Take note that PETRONAS is "half-private / half-gomen". Things were somewhat controlled by the gomen. So the performance may not be at peak based on your expert-observation. Yes, many PETRONAS staffs are Bumi. But I belive non-bumis were given equal opportunity too. I know a senior manager and he is not a bumi. Dont think there's ever a racism culture being promoted in PETRONAS. If u are saying that every single company that employ more bumi than non-bumi is racist companies, then I can say KHL is pretty racist too. Capabilities do not associate with skin colors. Capabilities are individually-based to each person. If u say that PETRONAS would be much performed if more non-bumis are hired, well there's a chance that PETRONAS will give out salary like KHL. so...90% of vacancy reserve to bumi and maybe 10% to other races....... regardless of capability...as long as bumi must fill the 90% vacancy...so u call this equal opportunity??? well...like wht i say....malaysia always left behind because of this kind of mindset.... bumi think the quota system is fair system....that's the problem.... |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 09:44 AM) "non-bumis were given equal opportunity too".............are u sure??? I define "equal opportunity" not by the quota like you because I always believe that capability lies in individual not skin color.so...90% of vacancy reserve to bumi and maybe 10% to other races....... regardless of capability...as long as bumi must fill the 90% vacancy...so u call this equal opportunity??? well...like wht i say....malaysia always left behind because of this kind of mindset.... bumi think the quota system is fair system....that's the problem.... If you agree with me that the capability lies in individual, quota or no quota is not important anymore. But what you are trying to say here that non-bumi are more capable than bumi in driving PETRONAS to better levels - which is quite bothering. I do have to agree that some PETRONAS staffs have this "comfortable" feels thus the "lay-back" attitude but that is normal throughout any organization. HR and immediate supervisors are responsible in identifying these sort of individuals and correct them. I have experienced many cases where non-bumi are not capable in doing things, same goes with bumi that have no competencies. So, it hard to be you and draw a line and say bumi are not capable, while non-bumi are far more superior and capable. People with mindsets like you that spread these sort of mentality and hatred towards each other when the quota thingy doesn't have to be something significant. We can live our normal life even though it is there. But people like you use this "quota issue" as an excuse to your failures. Malaysia is small and the market is small but one thing for sure - don't let yourself have a small mind. Open your minds and look for opportunities beyond Malaysia if you must in order for you to succeed. BTW, I will stop here as I am wayyy off-topic here. If you really want to talk more about this, kindly create a new thread where we can discuss this openly and equally with no "quota" - if you want lahhhh... If not, kindly stop your rant and move on. It is what it is, deal with it. |
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Y blame the company because you did not get to be chosen or work in the company? Oh please.. this thread is to discuss about the pay only, have a different mindset le.. if they only have 10%, find your way to be that 10% if 1% be that 1%... i hate to say this.. but life isn't that fair alwayz..
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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Mar 20 2012, 08:38 AM) I have been following this thread for quite some times now and I feel I have to share what I think with you. Strongly Agree..I hope once the Sapura Kencana merging settle, there will be a changes..Take note that PETRONAS is "half-private / half-gomen". Things were somewhat controlled by the gomen. So the performance may not be at peak based on your expert-observation. Yes, many PETRONAS staffs are Bumi. But I belive non-bumis were given equal opportunity too. I know a senior manager and he is not a bumi. Dont think there's ever a racism culture being promoted in PETRONAS. If u are saying that every single company that employ more bumi than non-bumi is racist companies, then I can say KHL is pretty racist too. Capabilities do not associate with skin colors. Capabilities are individually-based to each person. If u say that PETRONAS would be much performed if more non-bumis are hired, well there's a chance that PETRONAS will give out salary like KHL. Sapura..help!! Added on March 20, 2012, 10:58 am QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 08:28 AM) Well, i am no in oil and gas.... Singapore????!!! WTF...but not need to argue la..i am not the racist..the goverment is the racist.....keep over protecting the bumi status... look at singapore...lead by capable people, not based on your race...now become so powerful than malaysia...malaysia always want to maintain this kind of protect bumi policy, even we gt much resources like petro, plantation...but we are so much left behind than singapore...shame on this over protect bumi policy.....grow up...dun so depend on goverment... if i am capable bumi...i will sure have some pride and tell goverment .."please stop protecting us!!!"... I was working in Singapore..with one of their GLC company in O&G industry..racist..everywhere..the highest position for local malays, Warehouse/Store Manager...after joining 20 Years.. This post has been edited by eandi: Mar 20 2012, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(eandi @ Mar 20 2012, 10:51 AM) Strongly Agree..I hope once the Sapura Kencana merging settle, there will be a changes.. come on doomdoom. we are waiting for your reply here Sapura..help!! Added on March 20, 2012, 10:58 am Singapore????!!! WTF... I was working in Singapore..with one of their GLC company in O&G industry..racist..everywhere..the highest position for local malays, Warehouse/Store Manager...after joining 20 Years.. |
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Mar 20 2012, 11:27 AM
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Hope someone can clarify, if the fresh grad pay of RM5090 is only for engineers or all?
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 11:59 AM) that was no racist...because that malay si not capable.... Wow..good answer..as a chinesse muslim..shame on you..simple la..just compare singapore(mostly capable chinese leader and some other capable people from diffrent races), and compare with malaysia(lead by majority malays, only give a very less % to other races)...which country is stronger... u cannot survive in singapore because u r not capable... u can survive well in petronas because high quota is for bumi.. that's simple.. i think u guys not need to arue with me about this... Our goverment is really protect the bumi status, Petronas as well...that's the unfair policy... i am just telling the truth... then u bumi say just become the 10% or 1% of the quota la...haha...that's a very typical mindset of bumi who been overprotected by goverment.. if u bumi have enough guts, just gather at klcc there..just tell the goverment abandon the overprotection policy....not any special stautus for bumi...u dare or not? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 02:23 PM) shame on me...it's ok..i am just telling the truth........congratulation to u becoz u are in bumi status and goverment wil take care of u... I seriously think this is not the place to talk about issues regarding 1st class citizen, 2nd class citizen, bumi status, non bumi status. Everyone has an opinion about that but this is not the right place to do it. Please bring this issue to other place. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 20 2012, 08:32 AM) I believe most of the non-bumi have applied to Petronas be4, but in the end there are all in Shell, Esso or other O&G company.. Until now they dare not list out how many non-bumi / bumi % working in Petronas or other GLC company... But from what i have told in an interview i done be4 with a local O&G company, the manager told me that if 1 Chinese out, only 1 Chinese can come in to replace it and not others.. This is the quota they set.. That why that day i went interview so many Chinese ppl over there.. But sadly i am not listed.. the irony is Hassan has been hired as director in many Singapore GLC's..so anyone up to say dat now Hassan is not a "bumi" and is not "capable" and he get into singapore GLC bcos of "luck"?what i meant is regardless of race, as long as we work hard and do our part, we will get reward from our God/Allah, ther is no nid to get so bloody frustrated over racist issue...dont let one bad apple spoil the whole basket...doesnt mean one PETRONAS fellow practice racism, it applies to all..LOL...just my 2 cents worth.Anyway there is no fairness in Malaysian system, if really they are selecting the best to work with them i think the whole Petronas will be full wif foreigners.. The only bumi i respected in Petronas is Hassan Merican.. Really a talented person.. This post has been edited by acgerlok7: Mar 20 2012, 02:41 PM |
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doomdoom, you are hijacking this thread. As I mentioned earlier, please open a thread in RWI for you to argue about it.
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 11:59 AM) that was no racist...because that malay si not capable.... thanx doomdoom...bcoz of ur harsh comments, u hv prompted me to reply to ur idiotic nonsense baseless opinions. all this while i hv been a silent reader.simple la..just compare singapore(mostly capable chinese leader and some other capable people from diffrent races), and compare with malaysia(lead by majority malays, only give a very less % to other races)...which country is stronger... u cannot survive in singapore because u r not capable... u can survive well in petronas because high quota is for bumi.. that's simple.. i think u guys not need to arue with me about this... Our goverment is really protect the bumi status, Petronas as well...that's the unfair policy... i am just telling the truth... then u bumi say just become the 10% or 1% of the quota la...haha...that's a very typical mindset of bumi who been overprotected by goverment.. if u bumi have enough guts, just gather at klcc there..just tell the goverment abandon the overprotection policy....not any special stautus for bumi...u dare or not? first & foremost, u always praise s'pore by setting an example of how a country should be run. let me open up ur tiny mind. go google 'temasek review emeritus' n have a look how the people there suffer under the current government. even s'porean chinese complain of their gov who always prefer foreigners against local people. is that what u want? i bet u can't stand living there even for a week. so, stop talking rubbish! secondly, in my opinion, ur definition of fair policy is only when u are accepted to join petronas. only then u will stop complaining. how shallow-minded u r. it's easy for one to say that a practice is fair when it favours their desire. duhh!!! lastly....discrimination happens everywhere directly or indirectly. i had a sister who's been working at a chinese company and she was offered a position of supervisor although she has a degree. and their annual bonus is also based on race. chinese get more while non-chinese will get less. how pathetic is that? when talking about this issue....you just made me notice how selfish and ignorant u r about the real world. so, stop all this crap with all due respect. |
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 20 2012, 03:39 PM) the irony is Hassan has been hired as director in many Singapore GLC's..so anyone up to say dat now Hassan is not a "bumi" and is not "capable" and he get into singapore GLC bcos of "luck"? That why i only say just the "only" bumi i respected in Petronas.. Added on March 20, 2012, 2:49 pm QUOTE(diazzaid @ Mar 20 2012, 03:42 PM) thanx doomdoom...bcoz of ur harsh comments, u hv prompted me to reply to ur idiotic nonsense baseless opinions. all this while i hv been a silent reader. The only way to throw all the unfair policy out from the G first, if everyone already in a fair play ground how u complain? Once you have a fair policy, law & order will come in hand cleaning all the rubbish out.. When NEP started, no more fair is concern.. What they concern is their pocket and how to survive RICH in this country using 30% share & other unfair policy just to grap those money from non-bumi which work hard in their ass.. While they just sit around enjoying the 30% free money... first & foremost, u always praise s'pore by setting an example of how a country should be run. let me open up ur tiny mind. go google 'temasek review emeritus' n have a look how the people there suffer under the current government. even s'porean chinese complain of their gov who always prefer foreigners against local people. is that what u want? i bet u can't stand living there even for a week. so, stop talking rubbish! secondly, in my opinion, ur definition of fair policy is only when u are accepted to join petronas. only then u will stop complaining. how shallow-minded u r. it's easy for one to say that a practice is fair when it favours their desire. duhh!!! lastly....discrimination happens everywhere directly or indirectly. i had a sister who's been working at a chinese company and she was offered a position of supervisor although she has a degree. and their annual bonus is also based on race. chinese get more while non-chinese will get less. how pathetic is that? when talking about this issue....you just made me notice how selfish and ignorant u r about the real world. so, stop all this crap with all due respect. This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 20 2012, 02:49 PM |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Mar 20 2012, 11:59 AM) that was no racist...because that malay si not capable.... Dude, take this out of here. This is a jobs and careers section. If you tak puas with Petronas or the government policy go somewhere else. These ppl are asking some serious questions here.simple la..just compare singapore(mostly capable chinese leader and some other capable people from diffrent races), and compare with malaysia(lead by majority malays, only give a very less % to other races)...which country is stronger... u cannot survive in singapore because u r not capable... u can survive well in petronas because high quota is for bumi.. that's simple.. i think u guys not need to arue with me about this... Our goverment is really protect the bumi status, Petronas as well...that's the unfair policy... i am just telling the truth... then u bumi say just become the 10% or 1% of the quota la...haha...that's a very typical mindset of bumi who been overprotected by goverment.. if u bumi have enough guts, just gather at klcc there..just tell the goverment abandon the overprotection policy....not any special stautus for bumi...u dare or not? |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 20 2012, 02:42 PM) That why i only say just the "only" bumi i respected in Petronas.. hv u ever known why NEP was established in the first place? i dun want to elaborate more as i believed u have sat for your Sejarah paper in SPM (i dunno whether u got A for the subject though)Added on March 20, 2012, 2:49 pm The only way to throw all the unfair policy out from the G first, if everyone already in a fair play ground how u complain? Once you have a fair policy, law & order will come in hand cleaning all the rubbish out.. When NEP started, no more fair is concern.. What they concern is their pocket and how to survive RICH in this country using 30% share & other unfair policy just to grap those money from non-bumi which work hard in their ass.. While they just sit around enjoying the 30% free money... & u've made it seem as if the remaining 70% were the working hard ppl and pay tax to the gov. knock! knock! hellooo!!! we contribute to the country's economy as well & we do pay taxes! get a life, the world doesn't revolve around u. & with all due respect again...i hope we cn put this sh*t to a full stop. |
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Added on March 20, 2012, 3:12 pmNo matter how hard we try, each and everyone of us is a racist. So it doesn't matter where and who you're working with. And yeah, PETRONAS is one of them. I'm a bumi and local Sarawakian, been dealing with them for years. It all boils back to what Sarawak is getting. 5% royalty? PFFFFT! This post has been edited by h0inerve: Mar 20 2012, 03:12 PM |
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QUOTE(diazzaid @ Mar 20 2012, 04:00 PM) hv u ever known why NEP was established in the first place? i dun want to elaborate more as i believed u have sat for your Sejarah paper in SPM (i dunno whether u got A for the subject though) Then until now, does NEP really help all the poor bumi or just to enrich a few? & u've made it seem as if the remaining 70% were the working hard ppl and pay tax to the gov. knock! knock! hellooo!!! we contribute to the country's economy as well & we do pay taxes! get a life, the world doesn't revolve around u. & with all due respect again...i hope we cn put this sh*t to a full stop. This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 20 2012, 03:15 PM |
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Nevermind..just forgive doomdoom for his statement..
Lets get back into the main issue..is it true Pet freash grad will be RM5090.. If its true then I'm going to increase my expected salary during the S.I with Pet. BTW..Hassan Marican is now with SembCorp Marine...I was with them 4 years ago..they pay me SGD$3500, and its a big money for me during that time since I was staying in JB and travelling each day.. This post has been edited by eandi: Mar 20 2012, 03:19 PM |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 20 2012, 03:14 PM) Rome was not built in one day. that's all i can say.or do u have any other way to skin a cat?i guess i'll just stop here. no points of arguing. this issue will never end until doomsday or shall i rephrase it to doomdoomday? till then, bye guys! PEACE |
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QUOTE(diazzaid @ Mar 20 2012, 04:14 PM) Rome was not built in one day. that's all i can say.or do u have any other way to skin a cat? this is funny i guess i'll just stop here. no points of arguing. this issue will never end until doomsday or shall i rephrase it to doomdoomday? till then, bye guys! PEACE |
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QUOTE(eandi @ Mar 20 2012, 03:15 PM) Nevermind..just forgive doomdoom for his statement.. from friends who deals with petronas, that day visited them and he helped me ask: 5k UTP fresh grads, others can ask from 3.5k to 4kLets get back into the main issue..is it true Pet freash grad will be RM5090.. If its true then I'm going to increase my expected salary during the S.I with Pet. BTW..Hassan Marican is now with SembCorp Marine...I was with them 4 years ago..they pay me SGD$3500, and its a big money for me during that time since I was staying in JB and travelling each day.. |
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 20 2012, 11:51 AM) from friends who deals with petronas, that day visited them and he helped me ask: 5k UTP fresh grads, others can ask from 3.5k to 4k Unlikely because PETRONAS has a group wide salary scheme. Unless they do the remuneration based on your skill groups. I know once you are in skill group 9 or 10 (Geoscience/Petroleum Engineering), then you are on a different remuneration scale (higher bonus, increments, and faster track for promotion). I suspect this is what your friends are referring to. I still doubt it though because PETRONAS don't usually group the entry staff. They do it after a couple of years. |
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Mar 20 2012, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 20 2012, 06:54 PM) Unlikely because PETRONAS has a group wide salary scheme. Unless they do the remuneration based on your skill groups. I know once you are in skill group 9 or 10 (Geoscience/Petroleum Engineering), then you are on a different remuneration scale (higher bonus, increments, and faster track for promotion). thanks for clarifying. like i said, i heard it from a friend. take it with a pinch of salt til someone verifiesI suspect this is what your friends are referring to. I still doubt it though because PETRONAS don't usually group the entry staff. They do it after a couple of years. |
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Mar 23 2012, 03:21 PM
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i have chit chat with Petronas HR person yesterday..
fresh engineer pay should be 4k..but they plan to raise up to 4.5k this year (not confirm yet).. |
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Mar 23 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(rey07 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:21 PM) i have chit chat with Petronas HR person yesterday.. Wah..good2..can demand ma..fresh engineer pay should be 4k..but they plan to raise up to 4.5k this year (not confirm yet).. Do some calculation now.. If Fresh RM4.5k.. Then after next Year ..it will be 2nd- +8% Increment = RM4860 3rd- +8% Increment = RM5248.8 4th- +8% Increment = RM5668.7 5th- +8% Increment = RM6122.2 6th- +8% Increment = RM6612 7th- +8% Increment = RM7141 8th- +8% Increment = RM7712 and after 20 Years = RM.......... hehehe..Got time to calculate, since i'm not busy rite now... |
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Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM
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their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM) their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department. i think it should be lower for senior position if compared with other company in that same position..but salary for fresh grad it was good.. |
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Mar 23 2012, 04:06 PM
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yeah their fresh grad pay is nice tho.. just tat they say no good staying in petronas long, underpaid lol... it makes petronas looks like feeder company, train ppl feed to other company
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Mar 23 2012, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM) their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department. 30K including offshore allowance?? I knew some of them from Oceancare, usually Seconded to SSB..do the hook up &Commissioning..Even SSB pays for Material Co-ordinator, 1 Year Contracts, Basic RM18k.. Petronas staff is underpaid..but I beleive it more stable..remember somewhere around 2008, where the Oil Price drop down, and all shell project @ fabrication yard has been suspended for almost 7 months.. |
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Mar 23 2012, 05:14 PM
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not including offshore allowance. Cos they are taking those kind of pay working at onshore project. That's what i've heard la.. i dont know the real stuff tho
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Mar 23 2012, 10:32 PM
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ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate.
Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ? |
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QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 23 2012, 05:32 PM) ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate. No. All fresh grad will get 5K. There will be NO medical benefit, no Housing Loan benefit and no car loan benefit.Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ? |
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Mar 26 2012, 05:40 PM
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how about geology fresh graduates? does petronas take them in anyhow? how is the starting salary like ?
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Mar 27 2012, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(uhhwilliam @ Mar 26 2012, 12:40 PM) how about geology fresh graduates? does petronas take them in anyhow? how is the starting salary like ? Of course PETRONAS would love to take Geology fresh grads. The pay will be the same when you enter but after 2-3 years and once you pass the technical assessment, you will be assigned to your skill group and you will be in tier 1 or 2 (high demand skill group) where you will be on different remuneration scheme (faster promotion, higher merit increment, higher bonus and technical allowances). By the time you have 7-9 years experience, you should be looking at 12-15k salary range. |
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Mar 30 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 27 2012, 01:40 AM) Of course PETRONAS would love to take Geology fresh grads. The pay will be the same when you enter but after 2-3 years and once you pass the technical assessment, you will be assigned to your skill group and you will be in tier 1 or 2 (high demand skill group) where you will be on different remuneration scheme (faster promotion, higher merit increment, higher bonus and technical allowances). By the time you have 7-9 years experience, you should be looking at 12-15k salary range. I am more than happy to oblige to undertake the technical assessment and the process involved, but do you mind briefing me about what goes on during that period and how they assess your capabilities and aptitude? |
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Mar 30 2012, 07:49 PM
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how is the annual increment for fresh graduate in petronas ?
let's say fresh graduate 4k, after confirm how much ? and how is the annual increment in E1 level ? |
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Mar 30 2012, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 30 2012, 08:49 PM) how is the annual increment for fresh graduate in petronas ? After confirmation (6months), there is no increment and there is no technical allowance also for Tier 1 and Tier 2 staffs even after working one year. The annual increment is based on your performance.let's say fresh graduate 4k, after confirm how much ? and how is the annual increment in E1 level ? Added on March 31, 2012, 2:12 pm QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 24 2012, 02:31 PM) No. All fresh grad will get 5K. There will be NO medical benefit, no Housing Loan benefit and no car loan benefit. Poor the previous batch like us, starting 4k, capped medical benefit (4k outpatient, 35k hospitalization yearly), no housing and car loan benefit. I would rather forgo my capped medical benefit for that addtional 1k per month. Added on March 31, 2012, 2:14 pm QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 23 2012, 11:32 PM) ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate. No such thing if they segregate the pay based on which uni that you graduated from, how about those petronas scholars from overseas uni, are they subjected to higher pay then UTP? Once you enter petronas, you will be treated equally. Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ? This post has been edited by mangoman: Mar 31 2012, 02:14 PM |
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Hi I just have a question here and sorry if I'm out of the topic.
My status after the Petronas SI is recommended and I'm waiting for the placement almost 2 months now. I just wondering if there's any way or tips on how to get the placement? I don't know who should I contact and how. Thank you |
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QUOTE(uhhwilliam @ Mar 30 2012, 07:20 AM) I am more than happy to oblige to undertake the technical assessment and the process involved, but do you mind briefing me about what goes on during that period and how they assess your capabilities and aptitude? If you are a fresh grad, the technical or SI interview will most likely ask you about the courses you took and basically some structured interview to test your aptitude etc etc. Others can tell you about SI.As for companies from the middle east, no they won't ask your HR. No one does that as no HR will give a good impression of you if other are trying to poach you. There will be local agents who handles all the lof=gistics and they will advertise any openings and when their client is coming down for an interview sessions. |
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Apr 9 2012, 09:31 PM
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Been with Petronas for the last 5 years..if u are in this company, and u manage to see how Petronas improve especially at international level..Bumi or non Bumi..at the end it's still Malaysian..
If u don't like the way how Malaysia Government on the policies, please migrate!! See does other country like Aussie & Canada want to accept or not..The thing being this way from the day we Merdeka..GE is coming..choose properly.. Added on April 9, 2012, 9:33 pm#IHATERACISTPEOPLE This post has been edited by G-ShoCk: Apr 9 2012, 09:33 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:02 PM
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Petronas increase fresh grad salary already?
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Apr 19 2012, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM) their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department. underpaid?? work style is different between Main Client and Contractor.. |
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Hi,
I would like to ask, if a Civil engineer degree holder enter into Petronas, which department will Petronas assign for a Civil Engineer? Geologist, O&G? Will it be based in KL? Thanks!!! |
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Apr 22 2012, 12:32 AM
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Apr 22 2012, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Apr 19 2012, 08:59 AM) i'm not sure about you, but i'd better hope it's 4k. because when they increased to 5k, sure they will revise my batch pay grade.This post has been edited by positive energy: Apr 22 2012, 10:36 AM |
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the RM5k is only for fresh grad engineer is it? how much is business mgt frsh grad salary?i wonder if Petronas will hire fresh grad from business courses.
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Apr 22 2012, 09:54 PM
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Apr 22 2012, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Apr 22 2012, 12:32 AM) Yes, BUT my understanding is that it has not been implemented yet. PETRONAS usually does things in July. Maybe that's when they will do it. Make sense. They are hiring rite now. Given 1 month notice that the successful candidates need to tender altogether with their resignation letter, plus 2 weeks induction course at bangi, July is likely to be the month when these new people will be joining Petronas. Added on April 22, 2012, 10:33 pm QUOTE(positive energy @ Apr 22 2012, 10:35 AM) i'm not sure about you, but i'd better hope it's 4k. because when they increased to 5k, sure they will revise my batch pay grade. The more the better. Am I wrong?Even if they revised your batch's pay grade, I dont think they will reduce the benefits ie. house loan, car loan, medical benefit etc. So increased salary PLUS all those benefits, I'll pray for a revision (if I were you)! This post has been edited by pandikar: Apr 22 2012, 10:33 PM |
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QUOTE(pandikar @ Apr 22 2012, 05:30 PM) Make sense. They are hiring rite now. PETRONAS does not work that way. If they revise the salary, for those who have not taken any of the loans (those on 4K has no loans anyway) you will probably have to sign off the medical benefits away. As I mentioned before, I'd take the increments to base salary than any cap medical benefit from PETRONAS any day.Given 1 month notice that the successful candidates need to tender altogether with their resignation letter, plus 2 weeks induction course at bangi, July is likely to be the month when these new people will be joining Petronas. Added on April 22, 2012, 10:33 pm The more the better. Am I wrong? Even if they revised your batch's pay grade, I dont think they will reduce the benefits ie. house loan, car loan, medical benefit etc. So increased salary PLUS all those benefits, I'll pray for a revision (if I were you)! |
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Apr 23 2012, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Apr 23 2012, 12:59 PM) PETRONAS does not work that way. If they revise the salary, for those who have not taken any of the loans (those on 4K has no loans anyway) you will probably have to sign off the medical benefits away. As I mentioned before, I'd take the increments to base salary than any cap medical benefit from PETRONAS any day. I see. Then basic RM5k with no medical benefits is way more better than basic RM4k with capped medical benefits, at least for me. However, this is still yet to be seen. We need to wait until July to see what's the new package is. |
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Apr 23 2012, 03:02 PM
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hi,
Is it tough to apply a engineering job in Petronas since everyone wants to get in? |
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Apr 23 2012, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(ramramram @ Apr 25 2012, 02:59 PM) I think there's a lot of opportunity for ppl from business background. you can check at discover petronas website to find your potential career Yeah.i'd already checked and my application status is "in process". Not sure what is that mean.i think they are reviewing. |
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Apr 25 2012, 04:06 PM
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Apr 25 2012, 04:10 PM
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thanks. actually i just applied..are you one of the staff?
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fresh grad executive (E1) is still 4k for now, but heard changes are coming in but dunno when. the salary will be increased to 5k with no med benefits as what mr azraeil had informed us
those who are located in east msia will get add. 10% allowance btw a lot of UTP graduates are getting hired by pet currently, and they are even hiring the non-scholars |
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May 3 2012, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(lala_90 @ May 3 2012, 10:29 AM) fresh grad executive (E1) is still 4k for now, but heard changes are coming in but dunno when. the salary will be increased to 5k with no med benefits as what mr azraeil had informed us It is due to the recent RAPID project need alot of engineers, those who are getting hired will be trained in one of the OPU for few years unitl the RAPID is fully commissioning in 2016. In 2016, they will be transferred bac to RAPID in Johorthose who are located in east msia will get add. 10% allowance btw a lot of UTP graduates are getting hired by pet currently, and they are even hiring the non-scholars |
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May 5 2012, 03:34 PM
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Until last thursday, it's still rm4k.
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May 16 2012, 10:05 AM
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if i had do my internship at Petronas, is there a possibility i easily can join Petronas?
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May 17 2012, 09:41 PM
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hi, any news bout the increment in salary for petronas fresh graduate pay?
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May 19 2012, 09:28 PM
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May 20 2012, 01:52 AM
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May 21 2012, 03:17 AM
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I heard it also from my friends in Petronas. Then again Petronas is well known to spread this kind of rumour. It's part of the HR anti-guerrilla tactics to make people pening wether they should resign from the company or not. I'm sure this is part of some sick book on HR that they usually employ.
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May 23 2012, 05:22 PM
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my friend who recently joined said it is confirm to be 5k on july
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Jun 10 2012, 06:47 AM
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Jun 12 2012, 02:38 PM
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Any fresh grads get the offer from Petronas and will be reporting on July? Starting salary RM5k?
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Jun 12 2012, 07:01 PM
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Still 4k.
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Jun 15 2012, 09:12 PM
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heard the same too. and its not flat 5k liao. 5 point something2.... setback is the medical benefit. but screw that can get better one from insurance. huhuhuhu. soo gooding
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Jun 18 2012, 02:33 AM
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Hi all. May I know petronas got hire applied chemistry fresh graduate.? Except Petronas career page pls advise where can I apply for job in petronas? Thanks.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Jun 8 2011, 02:14 AM) They have their percentage..~not all bumi Added on June 18, 2012, 2:53 am QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jun 12 2011, 11:10 PM) I wonder what's the paycheck for the electrical engineer that working with carigali? Is it the same with DE, geologist,etc..consider this for fresh grad...also how about the offshore allowance? I'm EE..~Added on June 18, 2012, 2:59 am QUOTE(Mooi @ Mar 18 2012, 04:15 PM) Are you a PETRONAS employee?? Otherwise, stop spouting nonsense. Just because you are not qualified enough to be recruited, doesn't mean it practices inequality or discrimination. Fyi, I have seniors of different races working for PETRONAS. +999 This post has been edited by myroy: Jun 18 2012, 02:59 AM |
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QUOTE(cruin @ Jun 18 2012, 02:33 AM) Hi all. May I know petronas got hire applied chemistry fresh graduate.? Except Petronas career page pls advise where can I apply for job in petronas? Thanks. You can try because they have Petronas Chemical Group. But the only way you can apply is through their website, Discover Petronas. If other than that they will not entertain. Recently there's been an issue whereby a student applied internship placement directly to VP of Petronas. It is not proper. [QUOTE] |
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Jun 18 2012, 11:28 AM
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sounds very tempting .. but I think the bad side towards this type of job is that you'll needa work off shore? and only go home once or twice a month ? and you're expose to radioactive elements everyday thus the salary is slightly higher~~
you guys heard of shclumberger? Fresh grad basic = RM15k ~ |
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Jun 18 2012, 11:33 AM
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Fresh grad engineer 1st job salary rm3k. High or not? Is contract yearly will renew
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 18 2012, 11:33 AM) it is really that high .. of course not in malaysia .. they come over to malaysia and get people here to work in US or some other country ... payment made in USD .. which is USD5k .. = RM15k but negative side is you'll not work permanently .. you'll go around working off shore .. and also expose to radioactive materials .. |
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Jun 18 2012, 11:52 AM
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you cant convert expats pay. here we are talking local grads pay, working locally offshore here, which the information you give is very misleading. schlumberger doesnt offer that much to local fresh grads posted here as far as i know.
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[quote=syfirdaus,Jun 18 2012, 05:50 AM]
You can try because they have Petronas Chemical Group. But the only way you can apply is through their website, Discover Petronas. If other than that they will not entertain. Recently there's been an issue whereby a student applied internship placement directly to VP of Petronas. It is not proper. [QUOTE] [/quote] Thanks.. Anyone have any idea bout this? Can share normally how u all apply for job in petronas? |
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QUOTE(lrockm @ Jun 18 2012, 11:43 AM) it is really that high .. of course not in malaysia .. they come over to malaysia and get people here to work in US or some other country ... payment made in USD .. which is USD5k .. = RM15k Don't go comparing apple with orange...but negative side is you'll not work permanently .. you'll go around working off shore .. and also expose to radioactive materials .. |
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Jun 19 2012, 09:34 PM
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besides the high salary, petronas offer very good bonuses too... average 6 months i heard.
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Why you guys so focused on salary ah?
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offshore allowance in my company about sgd7k/month. thats close to rm18k extra, excluding your basic pay and other travel claims.
most FE here earned >rm30k+/month if offshore |
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Does anyone know if interning in a departmant in Petronas provides a higher chance to get hired back upon graduation by the same department?
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QUOTE(ultrajack @ Jun 23 2012, 06:35 AM) Does anyone know if interning in a departmant in Petronas provides a higher chance to get hired back upon graduation by the same department? Wondering the same question. But as far as I concern, maybe based on your performance. If get recommendations by supervisor, you still have to go through their Structure Interview if I'm not mistaken. |
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[QUOTE]Does anyone know if interning in a departmant in Petronas provides a higher chance to get hired back upon graduation by the same department? in normal cases stand better chance, else called ur ex supervisor to rec you, you should have "tanam" ur networking cable during internship right.... This post has been edited by positive energy: Jun 24 2012, 06:12 PM |
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Jun 25 2012, 03:03 PM
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207 posts Joined: Sep 2010 |
hmm but it still depends whether there is a vacancy for that department when you graduate right?
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Jun 25 2012, 10:34 PM
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67 posts Joined: May 2006 |
Has petronas started giving fresh grad 5k starting salary? Or it is still rumours?
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Jun 25 2012, 11:16 PM
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Jun 25 2012, 11:50 PM
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Jul 4 2012, 12:59 AM
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Jul 6 2012, 07:11 PM
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Jul 6 2012, 10:23 PM
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291 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
owes.. too bad ~
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Jul 7 2012, 08:16 PM
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2,772 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
I heard from my senior ( UTP graduate ), their starting wage in PETRONAS as a Chemical Engineer based in Kerteh, Terenganu is RM5k
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Jul 8 2012, 12:38 AM
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229 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
Again, hearsay is just hearsay. Nothing more, nothing less.
Unless someone can confirm/ verify it, it's merely a rumor. |
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Jul 8 2012, 12:42 AM
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2,139 posts Joined: Nov 2007 |
come on Petronas,please increase the base salary for fresh grad,few other companies employee stand to benefit from it.
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Jul 8 2012, 03:36 AM
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4,351 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Bintulu, Sarawak |
Dulu basic aku Rm2,510 jer starting
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Jul 9 2012, 02:09 PM
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5 posts Joined: Dec 2010 |
today got offer from petronas gas. The basic salary still rm4k +++. Because of 2 years experience. If fresh graduate (0 year exp) will get rm4k. Rm5k basic still rumors (or not implemented yet)
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Jul 9 2012, 07:09 PM
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28 posts Joined: Mar 2012 |
QUOTE(rexonaster @ Jul 9 2012, 02:09 PM) today got offer from petronas gas. The basic salary still rm4k +++. Because of 2 years experience. If fresh graduate (0 year exp) will get rm4k. Rm5k basic still rumors (or not implemented yet) so u hv attended the interview? how long did it take to get the result? |
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Jul 10 2012, 08:40 AM
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Jul 10 2012, 10:18 AM
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135 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
It took 1 year for me to join petronas started from interview until accepting their offer.
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Jul 10 2012, 10:39 AM
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Jul 10 2012, 10:53 AM
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28 posts Joined: Mar 2012 |
my SI was 2 weeks ago (26th June 2012, Tuesday). can i consider myself unsuccessful or should i wait for another 2 weeks? (mode: redha itu ikhlas, pasrah itu menyerah)
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Jul 10 2012, 11:37 AM
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5 posts Joined: Dec 2010 |
QUOTE(diazzaid @ Jul 10 2012, 10:53 AM) my SI was 2 weeks ago (26th June 2012, Tuesday). can i consider myself unsuccessful or should i wait for another 2 weeks? (mode: redha itu ikhlas, pasrah itu menyerah) dont be too rush..assume that HR doing their job. 2 weeks is minimum. after a month, may b u can follow up. lot of process to be done by HR. just think +veAdded on July 10, 2012, 11:54 am QUOTE(zepple @ Jul 10 2012, 10:18 AM) even some of my friend took about 2 years ++ to get the offer.Added on July 10, 2012, 11:56 am QUOTE(eandi @ Jul 10 2012, 10:39 AM) my reporting date will be next weekThis post has been edited by rexonaster: Jul 10 2012, 11:56 AM |
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Jul 11 2012, 04:27 PM
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291 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
i was told by the Petronas HR in utp career fair tat the increment is only limited to technical people.
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Jul 11 2012, 04:57 PM
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Jul 15 2012, 11:54 AM
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Jul 18 2012, 10:24 AM
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88 posts Joined: Jan 2005 |
how u guys apply this job
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Apr 25 2013, 12:24 AM
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880 posts Joined: Dec 2009 |
guys whats the starting salary for E2.
currently contemplating on an offer. |
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Dec 29 2014, 11:19 AM
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680 posts Joined: Mar 2014 |
can soemone pls suggest any company that offer high salary for civil engineers ?
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Aug 20 2018, 11:32 AM
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67 posts Joined: Sep 2017 |
Quick update : PETRONAS still pays 4k to their fresh graduate & PET ICT is paying 3.7k.
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Aug 20 2018, 11:41 AM
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454 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
8 years ago they revised the salary of fresh graduate from RM3.5k to RM4k. 8 years later it is still RM4k?? maybe wait complete 10 years cycle baru increase.
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Aug 20 2018, 12:01 PM
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452 posts Joined: Jul 2018 |
4k for fresh seems like a lot. Does joining Petronas as engineer will definitely give an offshore job?
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