We bought this (> 10 years old) 2.5 storey 22x75 house almost one and half year ago. But only collected the key 6 months ago.

Self Source
1) Permit Application (RM2,800)
2) new security door front (6x7) and back (3x7), including installation (RM3,688 from Top Security)
3) new 14' autogate system (RM6,888 from Perfect Living fair)
4) wet L shape base kitchen cabinet with acrylic door 11 + 10 (without table top) (RM4,380) - from university mate

The reno work includes (RM60k)
1) wet kitchen extension 11 x 22, with floor tiles and full height wall tiles @RM7 per sf tile (RM19,858)
2) extend living hall 6 x 22 (RM3,800)
3) remove the old tiles and lay new tiles for dry kitchen, toilet
4) remove and lay 2x2 tile (@RM15 per pc) in living hall 660sf (RM7,920)
5) 3 quarter covered the air well in 2nd floor
6) water-proofing for all toilets
7) repolish the parquet for stair case, 1st floor and 2nd floor (RM2,580)
8) remove and rebuild the front gate pillar and wall (RM1,500)
9) concrete table top with 2x2 tiles @RM30 (RM2,850)
10) Painting using ICI for the whole interior/exteror (RM7,800)
a)External – 1 layer selar, 1 layer undercoat and 2 layers ICI Weathershield
b)Internal – 1 layer selar, 1 layer undercoat and 2 layers ICI Pearl GLO

The contractor was recommended by my friend. He did my friend's sales manager (SM) house in SJ. After that, the SM neighour also renovate by him after comparing the his quote with others. Then neighbour's two sons in Setia Alam give some job to him.

His quote normally no much discount, as he told me he don't quote high and prepare room for discount.

M&E works includes (Estimates RM10k)
1) add lighting (RM45/pp), air cond(RM200/pp), plug(RM75/pp), astro, telephone and unifi points
2) upgrade to 3 phase (RM2,500)
2.1 application by TNB approved contractor range from RM600
2.2) relocate the TNB cable due to living hall extension RM1.4k
2.3) overhead connection RM300
2.4) Top Up deposit RM200
3) change the DB Box
4) Amour cable 12 for autogate, door bell

Lightings (RM8k allocated)

This wiring man is the contractor recommended person. I select him as I feel he is easy to negotiate and easier for contractor to work with

Id work involves
0) 4 3D drawings, M&E, Ceiling, Layout plan (RM4,950)
1) TV panel, wall paper
2) Divider
3) Master bedroom
4) Home office book shelf
5) plaster ceiling on ground floor, 1st floor and 2nd floor (@RM2.40 psf)
6) curtains and blinds
7) colour matching, tiles selection etc..

This designer was recommended by another friend of mine who let her do his Semi-D in Bukit Tinggi. He was also recommended by another friend which is also stays in the same area with him. My friend is moving in this earlier June.

Started to get the quotation for reno and ID since Feb 2011. Initially only allocate xxx for the above, but it bloated drastically...

Just started the reno work 3 days ago, after getting the PJ reno permit which taken about 5 weeks.

Will upload the pictures from time to time.. Schedule to move in early August.

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Added on June 2, 2011, 11:05 pmWet Kitchen Day 0

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This post has been edited by kingkong1: Sep 9 2011, 06:43 PM

Bro mind sharing your quotation price ? cox your reno works similar to mine, i just started to look for quotation please share

This one is gonna be awesome..cant wait..

kingkong1,

Which part of PJ? is it new property?

i'm planning to the the bold parts as you in pj too.
mind sharing your cost for the items highlighted and recomended contractor?
i'm also gonna do plumbing the entire house + pump + new stainless steel water tank.
and lastly adding a bathroom/powder room to the living hall extension.
cheers!

PM me if u need electric saver..

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This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 3 2011, 11:19 PM

WOW keep us updated!

BTW, how many picture can i "upload" a day?

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 3 2011, 08:44 PM

bro... can i know how much does your wiring man charge per point? i.e. plug point, light point, heater.....

Hi KingKong,

4) remove and lay 2x2 tile (@RM15 psf) in living hall 660sf (RM7,920)

660x15=9900. why 7920?
@RM15 psf included the tiles?

2x2 at tile price RM15, sorry typing error. He charge me RM12psf including removing and skirting. He use chinese tile specialist.

WOW, so fast day 2 already lay brick

mind to show some foundation pic below the brick wall.... or no support structure at all

This was day 1 which I missed.

There was footing and "net"

Will ask contractor to forward me the photo.

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This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 3 2011, 10:07 PM

Haha! Your window is exactly like mine. You will have to stick with roman blinds. Relatively expensive lor! Anyway, your house will not be dark.

If you can, avoid 2" width window. Not cost effective to install curtain.

Others things you should consider :

Change all your piping.
Pull amour cable for auto gate.
Remember, remember, remember to ask the contractor to skim coat the wall.

I estimate you will need RM150k the very least. Good luck.

Thanks for your advice, and welcomed others advice too, as I am novice to this renov thing. This is my first house and renovation. Not much time spent on the research though.

The window size is 2.5'x6'.
Will install full height curtain for living hall window.

Piping, the previous owner already changed using cooper type. So will maintain.

Amour cable 7 (RM4xx) was in my mind instead of amour 12(RM8xx), the door bell will use remote control type.

The wall looks quite smooth too, so no intention to do skim coat leh...and the whole living hall and dining hall at the TV panel wall will be using wall paper.

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Added on June 3, 2011, 10:26 pmhehe...weikee..this place is quite near to your auto workshop.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 3 2011, 10:26 PM

Mine is 2'x6'. In order to be truthful to the design, I was recommended to use roman blinds.

Better change to ABS piping, copper piping will corrode over time. As a precaution, lay another main piping for stand by. You do not want to hack and install a new piping. That if you are to stay there for long haul.

It is because all the time proof precaution that caused my reno to ballooned 30-40%.

Nice wall paper will cost you a bomb. Labor is the key.

Don't you wanna change all the toilet bowls? I do not feel comfortable with "old" toilet bowl.

Plan your electric socket well. At least one or two socket in 100sf. Easy for vacuuming.

The waste disposal alone will cost more than RM1500.

Boy! There are many hidden costs.

Kingkong1, can share contact details of yr reno contractor ? thanks

Reserve for day to come

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Added on June 4, 2011, 12:02 amAnyone got any experience or ways how to move this TNB cable and meter 6 feet forward for the living hall extension?



This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 4 2011, 12:02 AM

Hi Kingkong1.., nice works
can you give me your contractor info, cuz i also need to renov for my kitchen area...please..
thank you very much

your wireman will move TNB meter for you since you're getting 3-phase

consider getting an alarm if you haven't already

Hey, how you know where my auto workshop? Anyway, look like your house is nearly completing. Mine is slow but i don't mind the speed as I got no urgency to move in.

Kingkong,

care to share your reno permit application process??

is that the standard price (RM2800) for all kitchen/backyard extension? also 5 wks is kinda long... if ask contractor settle, can do faster?

hey, how come you didn't share out your cost?
i bolded the part that i'm interested to do. highly looking forward to your bathroom reno.
you seriously ain't considering engineer flooring/laminate timber flooring for your 1st and 2nd floor? polishing alone is around rm2.5k. a new one will be more expensive but not by a lot. think about it.
and pls consult your contractor on cost of adding a bathroom/powder room to the living hall extension please.
and my place is in pj too.
your contractor looks efficient.
mind sharing his contact?
thanks and great job by the way.

This post has been edited by kochin: Jun 5 2011, 09:13 PM

Thanks Kingkong.
My budget also around rm15 for 2x2 tiles. mind to share the tiles brand and shop u went?
I also got rm10psf to hack and removed the existing 1x1 tiles and disposed the rubbish from condo.
Hope i not choose the wrong tiles person, cos his price is most expensive in my quotation...other just quote from 6.50-8.50psf.

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Added on June 5, 2011, 10:23 pm7) repolish the parquet for stair case, 1st floor and 2nd floor (RM2,580)

Agreed with Kochin.
I have 600sf parquet on 1st floor and polish alone cost 600x2.30=1380.
and it cant last long...i polish my current house...the color and gloss will gone in few month later.
So i plan to top up another 3K++ to change to laminated floor.

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Jun 5 2011, 10:23 PM

my wireman or TNB wiremen? My wireman want to charge me RM800 for that, but worry if anything happen to him, or to neighbours' electrical appliances. Prefer TNB people to do so that they can cut off the electricity before extending the cable. Is this part of TNB job? Do I need to pay for this?

The house already armed with alarm system, just need to add more sensor points for the extension. Thanks.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 12:06 amcefiro kaki.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 12:11 amNormal kitchen extension is very cheap, just buy the standard plan which only cost you about RM200, and the approval will be ready in 2 hours. I need to go through longer process and pay higher due to front extension which no standard plan available.

Yeah...5 weeks is long, normally should take within three weeks. The runner (inside people too) delay me in submission. The approval process normally takes 1 week after submission.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 12:13 amRefer to the main page.
Will seriously consider the flooring.
The jobs still in progress, will only recommend the contractor if he is to my satisfaction.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 12:16 amThe tiles not selected yet, may need to top up if more than RM15 is selected. Will arrange designer and contractor to select in Jalan Ipoh.

Went to Jalan Ipoh, supergloss from China RM9++, White Horse RM16.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 6 2011, 12:19 AM

KK1,

You active in ZTH also ah.

I plan to go check out tiles tomorrow, is Jalan Ipoh tiles price reasonable? I plan to check out Japan Ipoh, and 222. Which one you think is cheaper?

I think Jalan Ipoh is famous with tiles and reasonable price, same as Lights in Puchong.

ho ho , just checked with MPSJ today, no more ready made plans for sale. need to submit drawings...and a whole list of documents to prepare.

need neighbors concern even tho they havent move in! !@$*(!&#(*!^$@#...ridiculous. need to dig from developer now

Where in pushing got cheap lighting?

super ceramic in jalan ipoh and 222 have diff price?

Neighbor consensus is been there for sometime. At least 4 to 5 years.

That is odd...Was available when I was there checking 6 weeks ago.

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Added on June 7, 2011, 12:31 amTop ten and others? Not source yet.

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Added on June 7, 2011, 12:32 amAnyone can comment? If price is the same, more convenient for me to source from 222.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 7 2011, 12:32 AM

Wow.. good starting..

2) install security door front and back (RM3,688)

what kind security door your install? what is it look a like?

Depend what u wan to get too. example top ten price is cheap but u may don't like the design while other shop have the design u like...i believe u will pay on wat u like.

Puchong: top ten(same row have many light shop too), house lighting, GC lighting at puchong gateway....

I jus got my MPSJ approval last 2 weeks. my Reno at front n back,1st n 2nd floor extension. I paid for architect n engineer to draw the plan,cost rm1500,mpsj fee rm500,dbkl rm1k refund rm730, from the day drawing until got the permit took about 3weeks.

is it security door?the buy front door free back door?

KingKong1, can pm me the name and contact for the contractor and the 'part-time' ID person? Appreciate very much!

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Added on June 7, 2011, 2:21 pmLook like your house is in BU 11? Reno cost RM150,000 at least?

This post has been edited by mmarklee188: Jun 7 2011, 02:21 PM

I will search top ten and shop around! Thx

KingKong1, can pm me the name and contact for the contractor and the 'part-time' ID person? Appreciate very much! Hope you can help!

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Added on June 8, 2011, 8:16 pmI just have a word with the contractor. He said will be busy after mine for 4 months as the next customer will be tear down and rebuilt a bungalow.

My ID person is not the part timer. Her shop is in Klang.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 8 2011, 08:16 PM

Thanks Kingkong1. Can pm me the contact for the ID person in Klang?

bro kingkong,
can i have your contractor's contact pls?
doesn't matter he is busy or not as i would like his quotation and then plan my schedule. since my job is relatively small, maybe he can slot in before the bungalow commences. worst case scenario, get him after lor.
thanks in advance.

Yeah, Bro Kingkong, I agree! Do pm me the contactor's & ID's contact as I will only get the house key 3 months from now.
Thanks

Day 9

Not much progress, mainly hacking old tiles, and wiring...meanwhile finalising the tiles selection from Jalan Ipoh. Notice that the tiles price can vary quite a lot depending on the shop and the right person you ask, eg one of the whilte horse floor tiles 2x2 from RM10.90 to RM16. Transport is free if purchase >2k. No refund but can exchange for certain model.








This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 13 2011, 10:56 AM

just curious on this pic, why is the electrical conduit exposed ? u plan to put plaster ceiling to cover it up or how ?

The old lightings not remove yet, and new wiring is on the way. Yes, you are right, plaster ceiling will cover it later.

ur wall at the back built upto the perimeter's limits?

what do you mean by perimeter's limits?

In technical terms it mean Building Set Back line... Layman terms up to maximum of the house limit...

To be honest bro, majority of the house renovation in Malaysia doesn't comply with Malaysia Building By-Law especially on the Fire Requirement... Based on the photo, I can see that the house are without backlane? correct me if i'm wrong.. This kind of design actually is pretty dangerous in the event of fire occurred....

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Added on June 14, 2011, 1:36 pmIn this case your ceiling height will be lower... Anyhow just my opinion try to flush or same level with the beam soffit/base...

This post has been edited by sl2007: Jun 14 2011, 01:36 PM

The back wall of mine and back neighbour is about 10ft. It is within the MBPJ guideline.

Yeah...certain part of the ceiling is very low at 93in.

Well, since is within MBPJ guideline.. I reserve my comment...

93" is abit low it might cause your house look abit tight and timid... Anyhow try to play around with some fancy design, i'm sure it will help combine with fancy lights fittings...

Door looks good and reasonable, can PM me details of the door supplier ? does your 3.6k inclusive installation for Front and Back door ? thanks

refer to main page. Yes, includes installation.

the lock system for the security door is very expensive..if broken (by thief), you may need to replace a new one...I am advised not to install security door for main door...back door is ok...and don't order the stainless type security door...as i know, some is not 304 stainless steel like model S1-219 HP...i know got a lot of people kena...rust within a year or even one week...

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jun 20 2011, 11:32 AM

The most important is the lock, need good quality build lock. If broken can still open is ok. Worse the lock jam inside, cause this door is called heaven earth lock, replacing is hard and may need to hack out.

The main reason i change to this type of door is :
With the price of nyatoh door (with grill) and simple lock system for front, I can get this type of door for front and back door at the lower price too, without grill.


This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 20 2011, 09:12 PM

Week 3

New autogate pillar


Armour Cable 12


Relocate TNB cable



Water Proofing


Preparing for Kitchen Top


New Autogate pillar up


Living Hall removing old tiles


Kitchen wall tile in progress




This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 20 2011, 09:22 PM

KK1,

How much is your relocation TNB meter cable? is it private or from TNB?

Week 3

Living Hall Sliding Door Go Away




Hacking Hacking....Ceiling...ceiling...why so low..

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This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 20 2011, 09:34 PM

Some charge RM800, some charge RM1,000. Applied through TNB waited and called > 1 week, can't wait. So just get from those approved TNB contractor.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 20 2011, 09:34 PM

Ok, TQ.

I also just apply today. Will wait for TNB call.

You have the approved TNB contractor? can pm me the number. in case i can't wait for TNB.

Don't think they will call you. You got to call them.

PJ approved contractor and SJ is different I think. You can get the list from TNB SJ.

Ok.

did this is normal price? because i also doing this upgrade also like this price... RM9500(w/o TNB fees)

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This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jun 30 2011, 11:01 PM

Week 4

Plaster Ceiling...Is this up to the standard?


Plaster Ceiling Up...

One power point for lighting in kitchen enough? Noob here, i wanna ask, if plaster ceiling done and need add extra point, what is the solution?

That is the fan hook. The down light hole not yet opened. Should be easy for wiring man. Just open additional hole and loop the point.

Oh... you're having fan in your kitchen... thanks for clarifying...

having ceiling fan in the kitchen? Have you thought about having to clean off the oil stains on the fan blades?
Also with the fan switch on, the cooking oil will be spread every where in the kitchen. Additional cleaning up...
Unless you do not plan to do much cooking or opt for western cooking

My 2 sen...

Wooooooo..... nice. So fast . Nice..

Your renovation very similar to mine.

I am still stuck waiting for the MPSJ Permit.

Planning to Use Solar Water Heater?

By the way,

The Plaster ceiling, did the supplier charge you prices for
L.Box
Fan Hock
Round light cut hole
Square light cut hole
Manhole
Cornice

This post has been edited by phoenix69: Jul 2 2011, 09:52 PM

L Box, fan hook, cutting hole for down light, manhole & cornice will be charge differently.
It will not be included in the price for the plaster ceiling. These are extra over.

For manhole, better to use those with aluminum edging. Looks better

now they have PLASTIC edging too, cost a little bit less

Yeah...agree too...but my wife want it as she had bad experience of sweating while doing the preparation for cooking. So the fan is just for the purpose during the preparation.

Never come across thinking of using Solar Water Heater.

Yeah...all these are extra charge and can be more expensive than the plaster ceiling for the whole house.

Yes, was charged RM120 per hole.

Thanks for the info.

Fried ah, seemed like fan hook doesn't located appropriately leh.. Looks like hitting the beam...

should be ok. fan is lower than the beam.

Update day 1 in the main page.

That's a good price for the security door!

I just called and they're now quoting RM3488 for front door 5'7" and back door 3'7".

And for 5'7" double layer doors are RM4000 by itself.

Week 8

Painting and Lighting In Progress..........

been following ur progress since the start. looking really good now.

I just notice you using 3 Phase power?

still haven't apply yet. the meter still in single phase. will apply anytime soon.

The TNB cable from neighhour to neighbour is already 3 phase by default. So just use the cheaper version ie overhead instead of underground.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jul 25 2011, 05:53 PM

Is there a need for 3 phase? Unless you are switching on so many aircon simultaneously.
From what I was told for single phase, can use up to 5 nos of 1HP aircon simultaneously.

BTW, will use Vivace swithes (the cheapest range) which can get from Top 10 at discount of 25+5+5+5. I got it from the wireman as he can match the price.

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Added on July 25, 2011, 6:03 pmYeah...initially not intend to upgrade...but just do it since it is not so expensive for the upgrading.

This post has been edited by kingkong1: Jul 25 2011, 06:03 PM

how much is to extend the 2 back rooms and the toilet with the same level as the kitchen extension?

mind to intro your wireman? what's his prices like?

He do it just as added service, as he say he won't make any money at this price.

I was told he charged RM50k for that to other customer.

Yeah looking at your photos look like you have 3 live input, but old meter. Wonder you do direct tapping