QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 28 2011, 01:27 AM)
its ok, bit too sharp for portraits cos that sometimes means got more retouching to do.
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I never know that
too sharp is an issue too
QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 28 2011, 01:37 AM)
u be surprised what the D7000 can do with jpg
Andy214 carrying D7000 too
QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 28 2011, 01:46 AM)
17-55 for rm3,900 brand new?
that's a bargain.
Need to check again to double-confirm on the price. It was quite surprising when I asked anyway.
jchue73's & Andy214's
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 28 2011, 01:47 AM)
Yes it's nice to have the 24-70mm f/2.8 but what's the point when you're not going to be fully utilising the lens' range? Oh, not forgetting that it's not a cheap lens either. So paying a lot of money upfront when you're only going to fully utilise it a few years later on the FX body is a little wasted in my opinion. The 24-70mm f/2.8 will always be there and he can always get it once he has jump fully to FX body.
Sometimes, I think it is better to leave your pics unedited or with minimal editing. Looks much better and more natural.
Me thinks it's a good price. Back in the time when I lusted for one, I believe it went for RM 4k plus. How much is it in HK?
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 28 2011, 01:52 AM)
Your friend unit could have front focus or back focus issue; As I know, these sigma lenses are common to have this problem. Very annoying; This actually can tarnish it's review if the reviewer didn't notice it.
The bokeh of this lens is actually smooth and buttery.
RM3.9K for NEW???? That's very low??? As I know, it's selling around/close to RM5K street price? Nikon official price is almost RM6K?
I thought Kent bought 2nd hand around RM3.5K?
Added on June 28, 2011, 1:56 amTrue, totally agree on the sharpness and focusing speed & accuracy, something which is very important.
As for the 24-70mm, of course not like after few years upgrade to FX; I mean, soon, like few months down the road or something like that; If so long, surely it's better to stick to something more practical and usable.
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jun 28 2011, 02:00 AM)
I think that question was posted to vearn27 and if I'm not wrong, the FX upgrade path is NOT anytime soon. If it was like a few months down the road, I would say abandon the 17-55mm f/2.8 idea altogether and get the D700 body right away.
Added on June 28, 2011, 2:04 amAgree that Nikon bodies tend to be a little conservative when it comes to sharpness of the JPG files when compared to what Canon does to their JPGs. It has been this way for quite a while.
That is why the Canon is always perceived to look "better" when compared JPGs out of the camera at default settings.
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 28 2011, 01:29 AM)
Not sure how far in terms of performance; Reviews said the Tamron are pretty comparable in terms of sharpness; Both the Sigma and Tamron are much lighter and smaller lens; The DX King, once put on, you can straight feel the quality difference, but it's darn heavy and BIG.
The reason I brought up 24-70mm is actually because of the price and if one is planning for FX anytime soon; I personally think, getting a cheaper alternative for DX can be an option; Later when upgrade, or get a 2nd FX body, the DX can still use the cheaper alternative while the FX can get the 24-70;
Anyway, just sharing my point of view, everyone has different opinion; just point out this alternative and to test out other lens first before making final decision.
Of course, given the money and option, the DX King is no doubt the better choice.
True, as I mentioned above, just stating some alternatives and options, and about testing out the other lens first; Just like buying cars, no harm testing out other car first; at least he can know how they feel and perform.
As for selling later, if getting DX King new unit, I think the loss is quite a lot for 2nd hand, personally.
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 28 2011, 02:10 AM)
Because I don't know when, that's why I said "if" and "soon". My thought is, because it wasn't long since he bought the D7000, I remember it was a tight budget situation as he was choosing/deciding on lens with the body; Then he got the SB900, and now the DX King, supposedly is it's close to RM5K; That's a big jump in short time, so I would suppose FX is possible in short time; Just a wild estimation based on the upgrades.
I think Canon also have more "saturated" colours or they call "colourful"? I'm not really sure, but I get comment from Canon users that the Nikon colour is a bit on the dull side.
I understand both of your opinions and where both of you are coming from. Yeah as per Andy214 mentioned, I just got my D7000 Kit like 3~4 months and topped up with the SB-900 & DFD and MB-D11 BG recently for wedding shooting. I had shoot 6 wedding couples to date and still learning, thanks to my friends letting me having the experience although he know I'm green.
17-55 f/2.8 on DX (25.5-82.5) is more or less equivalent to 24-70 f/2.8 on FX. I did not survey on how both lenses perform when compared side to side, giving both Non-VR and the later is a N lens.
As I mentioned before, I did considered between the 16-35 f/4 and 24-70 f/2.8 before the 17-55 f/2.8. My concern would be the same like Andy214 has mentioned, that I can jump to FX at anytime when I'm ready. However, after much consideration and since D7000 ain't any weak body when compared to D700, I could stay on it a little longer and to earn my way to FX. Which is now, I'm weighing the scale between the DX King VS FX lens + FX body time acquirement.
Anyway, please don't get me wrong too. I didn't earn much from photography yet as I'm still far from confident in delivering photos alone. Cheers~
Added on June 28, 2011, 2:42 amQUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Jun 28 2011, 02:19 AM)
Here the raw picture i edited for noise reduction (jpeg is brighter than this) taking out the rm60 UV filter seem better, this time i never put full 100% NR only 40-ish
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iso1600, f/3.5, 1/60
Heres the before
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Heres after with 40-ish NR
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can this noise level be accepted? i planning to get things step by step now, once im done with my NR problem ill move on to other settings
thnks to all who have gave me tips to improve on earlier
I on the other hand, will advise you to get your basic shooting technique right than worrying about noise. PP can be dealt later after you get your shots right.
Right as I mean right-focus and proper-shooting composition. The later can be vary because it depends on the idea the one person has and also based on creativity that indulging the photo. My advise to you will be understand first about the Exposure Triangle components: Aperture, ISO and Shutter Speed. Next move on to right-focus, sharp snap and proper composition. Then only move to... PP which is a later stage. It's meant to be
post after all.
Anyone agree with me on this?
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