Double post.

This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Nov 12 2015, 10:19 PM

Why no go for Ps 3?

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don't go for ep200 if u need durable tyres. wear very fast..
conti and xm2 is okay.xm2 is famous for durabilty and quiet.

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Thanks bro,just change today xm2 for 4 pcs tyres.Total bill include gst rm1020. is it cheap or overpriced?

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price is okay la..can get cheaper for this size i believe,but also not too overpriced as some place sell higher than this the price u bought.

Hi guys, any recommendations for 205/45r16?i know someone asked this recently but I'm looking more for performance instead of comfort. Budget:rm250-rm300. Thanks in advanced!

I just change to Bridgestone Potenza RE003, so far so good. The same size as yours but quite pricey RM340

I dun mind paying abit more if its really good haha. What car u using? How does it handle on wet roads? Which shop u go?

Another update on RE003 guys.

Last night it was raining, NOT even heavy, just a drizzle. Location is ELITE highway, nearby MSU university. The road is a climbing slope with left curve, NOT even a sharp corner and NO PUDDLE at all. Speed is 120km/h.

I have to do counter-steering while climbing, as my car move to the right lane by itself, even though at the time I am turning the steering to the left
My ESC doesn't even turned on. It was only after I slow my car to 90km/h, only then the car moves normally the way it should.
I'm starting to feel worried with this tyre. It doesn't aquaplan on a deep puddle, but is aquaplanning on a climbing-non-sharp-curve-slope-road...

I'm not confidence driving fast on the rain with this tyre anymore.

iinm preve right? how come the ESC didn't light up? how come the need to counter steer despite decent UHP tires (the latest in bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin lineup in fact), very deep/wide water channeling grooves, boasting a ton of improvements over the past RE002 (which had damn good feedback, albeit the crazy pricing lol) http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyre-treads/re003.aspx ?

i believe there could be other matters at work here, maybe the ESC isn't responding as it should/fast enough? (need to check fault codes)

to clarify, ESC totally doesn't light up at all?

it could also be a matter that the car orientation/direction and steering input shows no fault
although if you did in fact countersteered, then no matter what the ESC should light up as car direction go > while you turn <, conflict in ESC logic

what about tire pressure? under or over inflated?

was the drizzle just started or has it been some time already? possibility of spilled oil?
may refer: http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/buses/u...ic_8/page5.html

if the ESC light up in split second, probably I didn't notice it. tyre pressure could be under-inflated. checked, and I was running 210kpA at the time than my usual 250kpA. Drizzle has been going on a long while since before the road.

oil spill most probable explanation
because a lorry was in front, running on the point previously.

Looking at the tread pattern of the Bridgestone Potenza RE003, the wet performance may not be too good. The main groove along the circumference of the tyre is rather narrow and not as wide as say the Michelin PS3. From the way you are describing above, the car is sliding on its own to the right although you are maintaining the steering wheel. Meaning that the tyres are losing traction, causing the car to swerve to the right on its own due to the wet surface.

There may be several scenarios why this is happening, though I can think of two possible causes rather (rather than not-so-possible causes such as ESC not working, something wrong with the car etc.). Take this with a grain of salt as I am not a tyre expert but still, my opinion based on the tyre pattern that I observe :-

1. The tyres. There are very little "cross-horizontal" treads running horizontally across the tyre, on the middle of the tyres as well as the outer sides of the tyres near the sidewall, and the treads are spaced quite far apart especially at the outer side of the tyre near the sidewall/rims. The main groove along the circumference of the tyre is also moderately-sized and not too wide, more to a comfort/silent tyre groove size rather than a performing "all-condition" tyres.

Due to the lack of treads and moderately-sized main groove, there is a lot of rubber contact on the road and the potential of tyre sliding is higher when the road is wet. IN summary, not so good performance in heavy rain. However, on dry roads, the performance is likely to be superb as there is a lot of rubber/road contact.

2. Oil on the road which causes the road to be slippery.

Bridgestone Potenza RE003


Michelin PS3
(Although this image is smaller than the image above, look at the treads and grooves. The main grooves along the circumference of the PS3 are larger than the RE003, and the treads near the sidewall are nearer when compared to the RE003 where the treads are spaced further apart)


This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Nov 17 2015, 09:58 AM

Sorry to interupt but why u didnt slow down during that kind of road condition?

to some people, their throttle position is either on, or off.

Riddick:

What I think when some people have installed some "good-performance" tyres, they feel that their cars must be invincible and have the ability to tackle wet roads on a rainy day at higher speeds without losing control. The thing is, there is a limit to how much a tyre can take without skidding on the wet road.

Say in the rain around a bend with normal tyres, the speed limit is 90km/h before the tyres lose control and skid. With a "superior" performance tyres, the speed limit is bumped up to 110km/h (above 110km/h and the "performance tyres" will skid). Some people may think that they can still drive at 140 - 150km/h with the "performance tyres" and expect rock solid grip on the wet road during rain, and that is courting trouble.

I did slow down until 90km/h lah. It's mentioned up there

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Yea..maybe i read wrongly

> speed 120kmh
> climbing slope with curves
> counter steering
> slowdown to 90kmh

Slow down after it happened. Thats why i ask. Nevermind, all in all u are safe.

hi all,

wan to ask about Land Rover Freelander tyre (sorry i dont know the size of tyre as its my boss car) normally cost how much?

thank you.

btw don't get me wrong, i'm just genuinely curious to find out "what went wrong"

afterall i am still fairly interested in RE003, unless/until bridgestone begins to jack up the price like RE002 then i'll drop my interest accordingly

potenza with rain? aiyoh... from last time til now still the same deal it seems...

dry=go faster
rain=slow down..ALOT

bridgestone said wet performance banyak improvement ma

yeah...only on deep puddle
i don't have control problem when I hit that deep puddle. but experience on climbing wet slope (no puddle) is as above. car don't move to my steering. 90km/h okay, 120km/h not okay.