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 Buying new laptop? Need RECOMMENDATION?, V11, Intel SB vs incoming AMD Llano

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pandera999
post May 25 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2011, 10:04 AM)
Best at the moment:
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]

Or you can try:
HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M + AMD HD6750@RM3599 (ppl selling at around RM2.7k in Garage Sales) *Do note the processor is dual-core i7
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Y470, i7-2630QM is quad core icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2011, 10:16 AM)
Same as above  nod.gif

Others to consider:
Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
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Did these model support USB port 3.0 ?
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QUOTE(jimyee2u @ May 25 2011, 10:36 AM)
Did these model support USB port 3.0 ?
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Yes nod.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2011, 10:36 AM)
Yes  nod.gif
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3.0 use high voltage or x? hmm.gif since if ex HDD 3.0 plug in 2.0 hub xoperate laugh.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 25 2011, 10:40 AM)
3.0 use high voltage or x? hmm.gif since if ex HDD 3.0 plug in 2.0 hub xoperate laugh.gif
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Both yes and no, depending on usage iinm:

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More And Less Power

One of the big complaints that peripheral manufacturers had with USB 2.0 was the power limitations. Devices were restricted to just 500mA of power from a single powered port. This wasn't always enough to power some devices requiring that they either piggy off a second USB 2.0 port or have an external power adapter. This is especially true of many larger external storage devices such as DVD burners and desktop sized hard drives. The maximum power for USB 3.0 devices has increased up to 900mA off single bus-powered ports. Additional power is also available for suspended and unconfigured devices.

While the USB 3.0 specifications allow for additional power, they also are looking to reduce the overall power consumption of devices as well. There are a greater number of low powered states available for devices so they when the device or host is idle, less powered is used over the bus to the device. Some signaling changes have also been made so that less broadcast traffic is generated between a host and all the connected devices.

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post May 25 2011, 10:59 AM

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iirc, it is only backward compatible,

putting 3.0 into 2.0 wont work, but
putting 2.0 in 3.0 should work just fine
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post May 25 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 25 2011, 10:59 AM)
iirc, it is only backward compatible,

putting 3.0 into 2.0 wont work, but
putting 2.0 in 3.0 should work just fine
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yup nod.gif thats what keep me wondering... most link state that 3.0 use lots up power compare 2.0.. but actually it means 3.0 just increase its power limitation laugh.gif
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post May 25 2011, 11:05 AM

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i think thats the case,
usb 2.0 doesnt have sufficient power to power 3.0 device in the first place
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post May 25 2011, 11:08 AM

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Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]
HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M + AMD HD6750@RM3599

As a conclusion, this 5 model also support USB 3.0 port ?
What is your suggestion to buy?^^
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post May 25 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(jimyee2u @ May 25 2011, 11:08 AM)
Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]
HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M + AMD HD6750@RM3599

As a conclusion, this 5 model also support USB 3.0 port ?
What is your suggestion to buy?^^
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yup
Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen] nod.gif for reliability
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL] if you do graphics, thats ok.. and its a quad core... better than HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M as it just dual core i7.

This post has been edited by pandera999: May 25 2011, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(jimyee2u @ May 25 2011, 11:08 AM)
Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]
HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M + AMD HD6750@RM3599

As a conclusion, this 5 model also support USB 3.0 port ?
What is your suggestion to buy?^^
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As suggested by pandera999, its either N43Sl or Ideapad Y470, though I would recommend you to extend your warranty to 3 years for the Lenovo (which means forking out more money laugh.gif , it'll be worth it, especially for a monster like that laugh.gif )


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:51 am
QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 25 2011, 11:24 AM)
yup
Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen] nod.gif for reliability and sales after service
Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL] if you do graphics, thats ok.. and its a quad core... better than HP Pavilion Dv4, i7-2620M as it just dual core i7.
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Asus isn't really famous for its after sales services laugh.gif

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post May 25 2011, 12:12 PM

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i have try to call for the shop,

Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
(don't have USB 3.0 port) =.="

Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
(don't have USB 3.0 port) =.="

For asus only i7 / 15'6 model having 3.0 usb port

Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
(Yes, having stock)

Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]
(No Stock, Coming Soon)

So, i just can consider Acer & Y470. But if i wait for Y470, don't know when will be arrival. haiz.....
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post May 25 2011, 12:16 PM

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^ Sorry for the misinformation laugh.gif
Buy when you need (4830Tg), wait if you can (Y470)
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post May 25 2011, 12:18 PM

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n43sl -> 1 x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)
u41sv -> 1x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)

if can wait, then wait laugh.gif
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post May 25 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 25 2011, 12:18 PM)
from asus my website

n43sl -> 1 x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)
u41sv -> 1x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)

if can wait, then wait  laugh.gif
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Yeah, that's what I've read as well. But its not stated in the latest Asus brochure... so not really sure whether they have it or not sad.gif
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post May 25 2011, 01:01 PM

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post May 25 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2011, 11:50 AM)
As suggested by pandera999, its either N43Sl or Ideapad Y470, though I would recommend you to extend your warranty to 3 years for the Lenovo (which means forking out more money  laugh.gif , it'll be worth it, especially for a monster like that  laugh.gif )


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:51 am

Asus isn't really famous for its after sales services  laugh.gif
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if warranty finish unsure.gif dats xsure..

QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 25 2011, 12:18 PM)
from asus my website

n43sl -> 1 x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)
u41sv -> 1x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional)

if can wait, then wait  laugh.gif
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wait.. patience brings victory laugh.gif eh, satisfaction


Added on May 25, 2011, 1:36 pm
QUOTE(jimyee2u @ May 25 2011, 12:12 PM)
i have try to call for the shop,

Asus N43SL, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2599[2.4kg][Bang & Olufsen]
(don't have USB 3.0 port)  =.="

Asus U41Sv, i5-2410M + Nvidia GT540M@RM2899[2.14kg]
(don't have USB 3.0 port)  =.="

For asus only i7 / 15'6 model having 3.0 usb port

Acer TimelineX 4830TG, i5-2410M + GT540M@RM2499[2.2kg]
(Yes, having stock)

Y470, i7-2630QM + Nvidia GT550M@RM2999[JBL]
(No Stock, Coming Soon)

So, i just can consider Acer & Y470. But if i wait for Y470, don't know when will be arrival. haiz.....
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then wait for Y470 nod.gif N53sv (i7-2630QM) gt 3.0usb doh.gif
and n43sl said 1 x USB 3.0 port(s) (Optional) shakehead.gif asus website sweat.gif for i7 QM maybe

This post has been edited by pandera999: May 25 2011, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 25 2011, 10:40 AM)
3.0 use high voltage or x? hmm.gif since if ex HDD 3.0 plug in 2.0 hub xoperate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 25 2011, 10:59 AM)
iirc, it is only backward compatible,

putting 3.0 into 2.0 wont work, but
putting 2.0 in 3.0 should work just fine
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USB 3.0 plug to 2.0 still can use...
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post May 25 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ May 25 2011, 01:36 PM)
USB 3.0 plug to 2.0 still can use...
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rclxub.gif external HDD 3.0 not respond when plug in to usb 2.0
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Can use, I tried it myself sweat.gif

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