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TheWhacker
post Aug 15 2005, 02:34 PM

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There are people selling the fake Nike Stand Up Speak Up Anti-Racist Arm band at LYN. The items look like real but minus the nike logo on the bands ....
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post Aug 15 2005, 06:47 PM

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so, is there any action to be taken by admins/mods/etc? what kinda action and how to enforce the rules?
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post Aug 16 2005, 09:49 AM

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come on moderator, u can do sthing to stop this fake items to be sold to forumer..

pity to us.. sad.gif

they ripped off our hard-earned money......
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:00 AM

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QUOTE(dinster @ Aug 16 2005, 09:49 AM)
come on moderator, u can do sthing to stop this fake items to be sold to forumer..

pity to us.. sad.gif

they ripped off our hard-earned money......
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Gimme the link and I will look into the matter as seriously as possible. I don't prefer getting conned either. If any of you guys found any suspicious thread about fake items claiming it to be real, just report the post to me or gavlim. cool.gif

Guys, provided that you are right, stand up <--- fear no flames. This should not happen in this forum at least.

The only problem AFAIK is awareness/ ability to differentiate between fake/real. Contributions made here will always be appreciated.

Let's fight this war together guys. Dump those ignorant mentality and start being a responsible community.
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post Aug 19 2005, 10:08 AM

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Dinster, dudes and dudettes,

Fake Magnetic LED torch/ Kinetic LED torch/ Faraday LED torch. vmad.gif

I was curious enough to butcher one open and I found the following:

1) PCB got holes for diodes to rectify the coil's output but no diodes was found.
2) Output of the coil was shorted out on the PCB.
3) The magnet that moves inside the coil was not a magnet at all.
4) The power to the LED is supplied by 2 CR2032 coin batteries.

No way you'll ever get any kinetic energy coverted into electrical energy macam ni.

I googled but found no mention of a fake magnetic torch so we found it here on LYN first! smile.gif

Buyers beware.

Many thanks,
Boffin01

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QUOTE(Boffin01 @ Aug 19 2005, 10:08 AM)
Dinster, dudes and dudettes,

Fake Magnetic LED torch/ Kinetic LED torch/ Faraday LED torch.  vmad.gif

I was curious enough to butcher one open and I found the following:

1) PCB got holes for diodes to rectify the coil's output but no diodes was found.
2) Output of the coil was shorted out on the PCB.
3) The magnet that moves inside the coil was not a magnet at all.
4) The power to the LED is supplied by 2 CR2032 coin batteries.

No way you'll ever get any kinetic energy coverted into electrical energy macam ni.

I googled but found no mention of a fake magnetic torch so we found it here on LYN first!  smile.gif

Buyers beware.

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What this guy says is extremely true, i support his statement.

Curiously, i also have one of these last time, i know some of the kinetic torch did not even had any component on the circuit board, but mine does have a high capacity capacitor (0.47F, considered extremely high capacity), apart from the 4 1N4001 diodes. No, i don't buy this from the forum, but from your momma's grocery store, because i can actually see something in the circuit board.

Now the fun part. I dismantle it and found two button cells totalling 6v (usually ~4.5v is enough to power up a white led). Since the voltage is too high, the diodes were there to decrease the voltage to ~4v.

And as a experiment of the charging capability as claimed, i took out the battery from the torchlight, then i empty the capacitor off any remaining charge, took nearly 2 minutes. (like i say, it's a huge capacitor.) Then i shake the torchlight vigourously, yes, i do look kinda weird, but this is for the sake of science biggrin.gif

My observations?

1) You can't produce enough power to light up the torchlight as you shake.

2) After shaking for 5 minutes non-stop (good exercise), you can light the torchlight, but it's very dim, kinda like a nearly dead torchlight. You can't do anything useful with the light.

3) Further shaking produces no significant change to the brightness.

Don't ask me the voltage level and stuff, i don't have a voltmeter that time.


the manufacturer's claim is totally bullsh*t because you can never produce enough energy to operate the torchlight. And they just hope you don't really finish up the 2xCR2032 battery in a few year's time, which is quite true, if you're not a torchlight maniac.

My bottom line: The torchlight is still worth the price. 2xCR2032 already cost more than rm10 in the first place. Just to compare penny to penny, it's still worth it. The led is quite bright, it will last you years without replacing the batt, who cares if the circuit works?
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post Aug 19 2005, 02:54 PM

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I think the link of the thread of this fake item should be posted here.
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post Aug 19 2005, 02:55 PM

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i think we should pin this topic

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post Aug 19 2005, 03:00 PM

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OEM fake also ar?

i think the seller has to be honest la...
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:48 PM

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It's true that I have seen and also seeing alot of fake items here..

Well, you can always copy ppl's design but using people's brand is a serious offence. Because Sony is a registered company and also of course a very branded name, and is registered under the LAW. So if you use their name, you are against the law.

You can always copy their design and by using ur own brand - nobody can sue you.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:07 PM

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suggest quote the items and edit on the first post for easy to refer biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Aug 19 2005, 06:07 PM)
suggest quote the items and edit on the first post for easy to refer biggrin.gif
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will do Sphenix biggrin.gif

anyways guys, should we put link to suspected fake items here ? rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 19 2005, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(dinster @ Aug 19 2005, 10:48 PM)
will do Sphenix  biggrin.gif

anyways guys, should we put link to suspected fake items here ?  rolleyes.gif
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YES please, it'll be a great help to all potential buyers. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dinster @ Aug 19 2005, 10:48 PM)
will do Sphenix  biggrin.gif

anyways guys, should we put link to suspected fake items here ?  rolleyes.gif
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Put the link and proofs of your accusations as well.
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post Aug 21 2005, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(chinsc @ Aug 12 2005, 03:31 PM)
there is a lot of 'fake' thumdrive. specially SONY, or now even it come with TOSHIBA. anyway, still a lot of ppl supporting them cuz it is cheap! RM60 for 256mb!!!

but be ware~! i heard most of the user report that it cant safe too much folder, cuz it will 'destroy' the data and need to reformat a again.

well dinster, im sure support this thread, and will make report from time to time~
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mind sharing the url? really nice price. drool.gif
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post Aug 21 2005, 09:10 PM

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i dun mind they selling fake item, but they MUST state at their thread, big and bold, which is imitate item...
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guys, would like to report fake Billionton Class 1 Bluetooth USB Adapter (100M).

i personally have an original unit of the above item which i bot for rm95 n was rather curiuos and attracted to its pricing at abt rm50-55 in bulk sales. i have personally seen the fake ones as well, and they are completely different. u can tell from its leds, plastic quality and writings on the product itself.

its been going around recently and has cropped up at our 'bulk sales' as well. so pls guys, be careful!!

u may find more info here....

http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=5353&start=0
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09f. SES by Plasmon 48X CD-R 870MB/99MIN 100pcs Spindle: RM60 "Stock Available"

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i bought 100pcs from mika,this cdr only can burnt for 700mb/80min,i've comfirm with my fren edi..pm mika asking regarding the problems,he just replied me my burner not support,ask again which burner support,no reply,deleted my pm somemore,several times edi..
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QUOTE(coolice @ Aug 21 2005, 09:58 PM)
Link
i bought 100pcs from mika,this cdr only can burnt for 700mb/80min,i've comfirm with my fren edi..pm mika asking regarding the problems,he just replied me my burner not support,ask again which burner support,no reply,deleted my pm somemore,several times edi..
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kes serius ni...
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post Aug 21 2005, 11:51 PM

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okay guys.... since moderators want proof from us...

let us now gather proof of this fake item okay.....

so, anyone here with fake item.. perhaps u can post some pictures ?

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if u own Sony Charger bought from Vcool,

pls take note of this ;


1. user manual - looks like a "photocopied" manual instead of printed version.

2. no SIRIM / JBE / Suruhanjaya sticker.

3. no sticker from authorized local Sony Distributor.

4. performance of the battery

* my GP 1600mAH performs FAR BETTER than 2300mAH fake Sony (from my own experience)


Genuine Sony charger should have;

1. Printed manual. 3 small booklets instead of 1 booklet (Vcool's).

2. SIRIM sticker.

3. Authorized local Sony Distributor.


This post has been edited by dinster: Aug 22 2005, 03:14 AM

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