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post Aug 22 2005, 02:32 AM

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dinster I have PM vcool regarding this issue, we shall wait for him to explain.
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post Aug 22 2005, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Aug 22 2005, 02:32 AM)
dinster I have PM vcool regarding this issue, we shall wait for him to explain.
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post Aug 22 2005, 04:43 AM

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wow.. didnt notice theres such a thread here...I gotta say the best thread too.. smile.gif , esp. as a consumer here...

GJ dinster and mods!!!.. biggrin.gif

Btw, i think someone shld provide a "legit" product picture.. it makes easier to know... i might go to shop and take a snapshot of the "sony charger" and post it here..

Cheers smile.gif

*me bookmarked this page liaoz*.. thumbup.gif

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post Aug 22 2005, 04:46 AM

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this is regarding breaker's Sony Charger..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=186654

QUOTE(geejun2 @ Aug 21 2005, 10:51 PM)
DUDE... is this thing the original wan? dun say same or different with the camera shops la.. but i dun think this is the original wan. the ori wan is priced at least rm 150.
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QUOTE(breaker @ Aug 22 2005, 12:18 AM)
i have no idea...
the different thing is this one without sirim
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my verdict ;

breaker's charger = Vcool's charger = suspected fake


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post Aug 22 2005, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Aug 22 2005, 04:43 AM)

Btw, i think someone shld provide a "legit" product picture.. it makes easier to know... i might go to shop and take a snapshot of the "sony charger" and post it here..

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really appreciate if u're willing to do that..... thumbup.gif

me can also but then at this moment quite bz....

but i have done a survey last 2 weeks at Sony Style KLCC & Lowyat Plaza..

unfortunately i didnt bring my camera at that time sweat.gif
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post Aug 22 2005, 05:10 AM

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QUOTE(dinster @ Aug 22 2005, 04:49 AM)
really appreciate if u're willing to do that.....  thumbup.gif

me can also but then at this moment quite bz....

but i have done a survey last 2 weeks at Sony Style KLCC & Lowyat Plaza..

unfortunately i didnt bring my camera at that time  sweat.gif
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Actually i noticed something different a few weeks ago when ppl started bulking that product (i mean... come on.. nearly half price blink.gif, and i was thinking gettting one too.. but at the end i juz bought from a shop to be safe) esp. after the huge fiasco on fake-batts thats going on..., just that i want to compare more shops to make a solid confirmation before replying to the 'ppl who selling this sony batt-charger'.

lol.. btw i imagine when i wanna take a pic of the 'legit' batt-charger.. "Boss, can u take out Sony batt-charger and let me take a pic?"... doh.gif ..heh.. anywayz, im gonna do it hopefully before this weekend (unless someone else volunteered).

Cheers flex.gif
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post Aug 22 2005, 10:19 AM

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hi all, there is a lots of buyer asking me about this, this is the same explaination that i have given to them.

1.) It's imported from china.
2.) The manufacture claim that they used to make battery for sony, therefore we actually just place order and expect that they will provide us with the same quality as sony.
3.) We have our demo units to test before purchase in quantity, it's working perfectly.
4.) Received some feedbacks from customers, our current action:
4.1) Change a new one until it works well or refund if it can't work.
4.2) Stop importing.
5.) For the first batch our product is great, no defects. but when it comes to second batch we did receive much of defective units. All the loss is covering by ourself and we change every defect unit with 1-to-1 swap to our customer.

Last but not least, I hope my little action would help.

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post Aug 22 2005, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(dinster @ Aug 22 2005, 04:49 AM)
really appreciate if u're willing to do that.....  thumbup.gif

me can also but then at this moment quite bz....

but i have done a survey last 2 weeks at Sony Style KLCC & Lowyat Plaza..

unfortunately i didnt bring my camera at that time  sweat.gif
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So far how many unit u had bought from vcool? sweat.gif
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post Aug 22 2005, 12:32 PM

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I also bought some from vColl and breaker..
But we must consider the quality item ( Original ) is too expensive
Around 150 above..
But they sell it rm69-70...
Half of the original price
So.. Surely the quality is more worst...
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post Aug 22 2005, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(emmeir @ Aug 22 2005, 12:32 PM)
I also bought some from vColl and breaker..
But we must consider the quality item ( Original ) is too expensive
Around 150 above..
But they sell it rm69-70...
Half of the original price
So.. Surely the quality is more worst...
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No, the fact is, they told us it's original from sony. Now, that's cheating. I'm buying one myself, and i feel cheated, i think it's only appopriate if mr. VCool could've told me it's fake, in the first place. You know, i even give this to my brother, now i'm a cheap ******* who gave their brother fake stuff. Imagine that! I never opened the charger and check the "ingredients", i guess someone should do something.

As I said before in my previous posts, there's a big difference if it's water goods and fake stuff. I thought i'm buying water goods, but i'm getting a fake stuff. I'm very angry now, if only someone would take action. The charger is a few thousand KMs away from me now, i wish i could get it back, dissect it and let you all know what's inside, once and for all. If anyone willing, send me a unit and let me analyse the content of this charger. FYI it's easy to read the IC and determine if it's really contain the voltage monitoring function, temp monitor, bla bla. Maybe I'll even ask my brother to send it back to me, it's a shame to give someone a fake item, it's even worse if you don't know it's a fake, in the first place. mad.gif
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post Aug 22 2005, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(emmeir @ Aug 22 2005, 12:32 PM)
I also bought some from vColl and breaker..
But we must consider the quality item ( Original ) is too expensive
Around 150 above..
But they sell it rm69-70...
Half of the original price
So.. Surely the quality is more worst...
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agree with earnie ball.....

i bought that charger bcoz i thought it was original stuff but smuggled stock or water set or whatever la..

in the end, i found out it's purely shit..

seller doesnt tell us this info... shakehead.gif

now i'm using genuine GP Charger + 8x 1600mAH = RM 65 (bought at PCFair)

very happy with these battery.

even though 1600mAH but last longer than fake Sony 2300mAH.

QUOTE(Motorbaby @ Aug 22 2005, 10:45 AM)
So far how many unit u had bought from vcool?  sweat.gif
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1 unit.. 1st and last.....

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post Aug 22 2005, 05:31 PM

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some seller sell stuff claimed their stuff to be genuine and original by manufacturer....
so it seems like its the responsible of the manufacturer or distributor and not the seller's fault.....

then, i think that if someone is gonna sell things(no matter genuine or immitated or fake stuff) here, they can still push the responsible to the manufacturer or distributor.... then after some discussion with the distributor(dunno does the discussion really happen), then say cannot be change or refund.... forumers here will be in troubles after getting those stuff and the seller cant do anything also....

erm.... in short, i think that the seller has the full responsibility of the stuff they are selling.... and dont blame it on the distibutor....the seller should confirm everything, if anything happen, the seller have to refund or make a replacement and dont give an answer like waiting reply from the distributor as we hardly know does the distributor ever exist.....
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post Aug 22 2005, 06:00 PM

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Here are pics of fake 2300 from bulk order, vs real 2100 bought from Key Color Midvalley. Last pic the fake battery got some tape glue stuck on it.

Peowyong, agree with u. Some fake stuff seller, macam drug dealer when tertangkap police, "Oh.. i thought it was flour. Drugs ar? ohmy.gif ".

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post Aug 22 2005, 06:11 PM

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thanks a lot ceo684 ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

EDIT : u forgot to mention, from who u bought that fake battery...

we need to be specific now.. since moderators want us to be specific, complete with proof as well... wink.gif



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post Aug 22 2005, 06:17 PM

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I bought it from scorgio. He's no longer selling lah, AFAIK.

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post Aug 22 2005, 06:44 PM

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ceo684 : Good one upon the comparison there..smile.gif.. i noticed the build of the fake batts looks different too.. look at the pic below:-
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Update : it seems another seller selling sonybatts too.. --> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=189754 , the seller stated its from Japan.. can anyone verify whether its a "orignal sony batts"?...


Since im in this topic abt FAKE items.. theres another item i was wondering for quite a long time... and the item its the "Swarovski Crystals"... wanted to get for my friends's bday.. but i noticed the price also nearly "60% off" compared the ones i saw in shops... so i asked the seller whether theres "certificate of authenticity", he/she said "it doesnt comes with it"..

But.. if not mistaken, all "genuine swarovski crystals" does comes with a "certificate of authenticity".

So, the main thing i wanna know its... does the "seller" considered selling fake-item, when he/she said its "genuine" and it doesnt comes with "certificate of authenticity"?.. i hope u peeps can solve my curiosity smile.gif

Cheers cool.gif

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post Aug 22 2005, 07:48 PM

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Original sony batteries font is not so thick a la the fakes.

Original sony... got a "gold ring" at the intersection between the orange and the silver sections (i think better use a camera and take macro pic to see better if u are buying).

PS.
If anyone wants original cheap, I suggest buying these Sanyo 2500 at RM23 / 2AA. I bought from him also. Real good originals.
http://www.photomalaysia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5493

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Aug 22 2005, 06:44 PM)
ceo684 : Good one upon the comparison there..smile.gif.. i noticed the build of the fake batts looks different too.. look at the pic below:-
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Update : it seems another seller selling sonybatts too.. --> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=189754 , the seller stated its from Japan.. can anyone verify whether its a "orignal sony batts"?...
Since im in this topic abt FAKE items.. theres another item i was wondering for quite a long time... and the item its the "Swarovski Crystals"... wanted to get for my friends's bday.. but i noticed the price also nearly "60% off" compared the ones i saw in shops... so i asked the seller whether theres "certificate of authenticity", he/she said "it doesnt comes with it"..

But.. if not mistaken, all "genuine swarovski crystals" does comes with a "certificate of authenticity".

So, the main thing i wanna know its... does the "seller" considered selling fake-item, when he/she said its "genuine" and it doesnt comes with "certificate of authenticity"?.. i hope u peeps can solve my curiosity smile.gif

Cheers cool.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Aug 22 2005, 10:22 PM)
apa beza dua gambar? macam sama ler.
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yang ciplak ader 2 line...
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post Aug 23 2005, 12:14 AM

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Gavlim, I've pinned this thread first but if you don't think it's suitable then you can do whatever you want. Afterall this is your territory and I respect it.

Thanks for all those people who care and contribute, I will look into the matter ASAP, Let me study the case, PM those involved and get thier feedback. If they were found guilty I will not hesitate to take actions.

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