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 Please Recommend... Earphones/Headphones

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kaikiattan
post Mar 5 2007, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 5 2007, 01:45 AM)
1/ running unamped from a phone, id suggest sumthin with very low impedance so that the phones can drive the cans easily. my suggesttion to u would be to look for In-Ear-Monitors (IEMs). its the kind like the creative EP630..the one where u stick it in ur ear (some dude in head-fi called them ear dildos laugh.gif) IEMs typically have very low impedance (16ohms) making them very easy to drive.

anyway...for ur usage (which is using with phones) and ur budget, id recommend the Razer Pro Tones m100. ive never heard it..but it has been getting good reviews. or u could add RM30 to ur RM100 budget and get the Crossroad MylarOne from walabies.

2/ how we recommend?? its based on a few things...
- budget (most important)
- usage (gaming/music, portable/ not portable)
- do u need isolation? (closed/open headphones)
- if music, type of music u listen to
- wats ur source?
- wat amp? (if any)
- others that escape me at the moment

3/ not sure about this...but there is a logic behind it. headphones typically have higher impedance than IEMs making them harder to drive (n mebbe require more power to drive them properly). the lowest ive found would be 32ohms. and ive tried 32ohm headphones with my w810i. and although they sound alot better than then standard IEMs, i just cant get enough volume. even with the volume from the phone maxed out..its just not satisfying enough for me (but thats just me la...coz i usually listen to my music loud. might be different for u)
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oo....

1. the razer pro m100 i have seen it on the internet and indeed, it really get good reviews!! rclxms.gif but how about other brand such as sennheiser MX series and CX series?i also heard many gud ratings on these products... rclxub.gif but i cant find any review on Crossroad MylarOne...seem like nobody know about this product!! cry.gif
o!and u mentioned about OHM...is there a greaty difference between 16ohm and 32 ohm?

2. all points u mentioned i understand.except the isolation one....example: if it is isolated, when i am using the earphone, my mom shout me i cant hear...izzit like this?? rclxub.gif

3. so, u mean headphone is 100% nicer than IEM.even on handphone, headphone also 100% better than IEM. just that the volume of IEM is softer compare to headphone.if quality, headphone sure win.izzit like this?? but i saw review on razer pro m100 saying that the sound is very loud...

anymore ppl can gv me opinions and guides?pls help....the more the merrier!! rclxms.gif tongue.gif cos i wil be going 2 lowyat this sunday 2 buy my nokia N91 and a headset for it! rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 5 2007, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 5 2007, 05:34 PM)
oo....

1. the razer pro m100 i have seen it on the internet and indeed, it really get good reviews!! rclxms.gif but how about other brand such as sennheiser MX series and CX series?i also heard many gud ratings  on these products... rclxub.gif but i cant find any review on Crossroad MylarOne...seem like nobody know about this product!! cry.gif
o!and u mentioned about OHM...is there a greaty difference between 16ohm and 32 ohm?

2. all points u mentioned i understand.except the isolation one....example: if it is isolated, when i am using the earphone, my mom shout me i cant hear...izzit like this?? rclxub.gif

3. so, u mean headphone is 100% nicer than IEM.even on handphone, headphone also 100% better than IEM. just that the volume of IEM is softer compare to headphone.if quality, headphone sure win.izzit like this?? but i saw review on razer pro m100 saying that the sound is very loud...

anymore ppl can gv me opinions and guides?pls help....the more the merrier!! rclxms.gif  tongue.gif cos i wil be going 2 lowyat this sunday 2 buy my nokia N91 and a headset for it! rclxm9.gif
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1/ Crossroad MylarOne u can search here in the audiophile section for a review. theres a thread for it and a forumer did a review comparing it with Koss KSC75.
difference between 16 and 32ohms arent much...but its quite significant when i used it on my w810i. but thats me coz i like loud volumes.
i never mentioned any other brands because theyre quite above ur budget. but the senn IEM is quite popular.

2/ isolation...yeah...u wont hear outside...and u wont get sound coming in. it might not block out 100% but itll block out quite alot of sound oso from going in/ out.

3/ the other way round la dude.. IEM will be LOUDER as its easier to drive compared to headphone. headphones will be SOFTER. and i prefer the sound quality of headphones. some prefer IEMs. diff people diff taste
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post Mar 5 2007, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 5 2007, 06:10 PM)
1/ Crossroad MylarOne u can search here in the audiophile section for a review. theres a thread for it and a forumer did a review comparing it with Koss KSC75.
difference between 16 and 32ohms arent much...but its quite significant when i used it on my w810i. but thats me coz i like loud volumes.
i never mentioned any other brands because theyre quite above ur budget. but the senn IEM is quite popular.

2/ isolation...yeah...u wont hear outside...and u wont get sound coming in. it might not block out 100% but itll block out quite alot of sound oso from going in/ out.

3/ the other way round la dude.. IEM will be LOUDER as its easier to drive compared to headphone. headphones will be SOFTER. and i prefer the sound quality of headphones. some prefer IEMs. diff people diff taste
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1.u said that 16 ohm and 32 ohms have difference.16ohm has louder volume compare to 32ohm?and is sound quality affected by the OHM of headset?

then i think when i go lowyat i have 2 listen 2 the heaset 1 by 1.... flex.gif by the way, where can i buy razor pro m100 and Crossroad MylarOne at lowyat?

2. u prefer the sound quality of headphone but u also prefer the volume of IEM... sweat.gif i think its very hard for u 2 choose a suitable headset for urself!! sweat.gif haha....

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post Mar 5 2007, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 5 2007, 07:38 PM)
1.u said that 16 ohm and 32 ohms have difference.16ohm has louder volume compare to 32ohm?and is sound quality affected by the OHM of headset?

then i think when i go lowyat i have 2 listen 2 the heaset 1 by 1.... flex.gif by the way, where can i buy razor pro m100 at lowyat?

2. u prefer the sound quality of headphone but u also prefer the volume of IEM... sweat.gif i think its very hard for u 2 choose a suitable headset for urself!! sweat.gif haha....
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1/ think of the impedance (ohms) as resistance.. the lower the resistance the easier to drive. hence louder volumes. m100 can be bought at either bulk section or ALL IT Digimall PJ for RM99...not sure if they have it in ALL IT LYP or not.

n some headphones do benefit from higher impedance while some do not. depends i guess.

2/ i never said i prefer volume of IEM tongue.gif its not hard for me to choose a suitable headphone for myself coz what i did was i bought myself a headphone amplifier (Little Dot Micro +) and use my headphones tongue.gif but then i rarely use my w810i for my audio. my portable audio would be my car sound system laugh.gif

as for suitable headphone for myself...i found my headphone liao... Beyerdynamic DT990 '05 flex.gif use it in the office as my main audio setup.
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post Mar 5 2007, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 5 2007, 07:44 PM)
1/ think of the impedance (ohms) as resistance.. the lower the resistance the easier to drive. hence louder volumes. m100 can be bought at either bulk section or ALL IT Digimall PJ for RM99...not sure if they have it in ALL IT LYP or not.

n some headphones do benefit from higher impedance while some do not. depends i guess.

2/ i never said i prefer volume of IEM tongue.gif its not hard for me to choose a suitable headphone for myself coz what i did was i bought myself a headphone amplifier (Little Dot Micro +) and use my headphones tongue.gif but then i rarely use my w810i for my audio. my portable audio would be my car sound system laugh.gif

as for suitable headphone for myself...i found my headphone liao... Beyerdynamic DT990 '05 flex.gif use it in the office as my main audio setup.
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woot......Beyerdynamic DT990 '05 cost about RM600 le BROTHER!! sweat.gif rclxub.gif cool.gif vmad.gif mad.gif i guess everyone has different interest....haha...

about the mylarone, i have seen the review u mentioned.tons of great review at there....but duno how izzit if compared 2 m100....and if my budget around RM100, is this the onli 2 best earphone (i wan earphone dun wan headphone tongue.gif ) for me to choose?got some more ma?cos if i go lowyat then can listen 1 by 1 ma...haha....jz nid 2 know the brand and product name....



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QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 5 2007, 08:45 PM)
woot......Beyerdynamic DT990 '05 cost about RM600 le BROTHER!! sweat.gif  rclxub.gif  cool.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif i guess everyone has different interest....haha...
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RM600??? u dreaming or wat?? or r u talking about the Pro version?? the '05 DT990 is selling for RM1.2k ler. dont believe me check out walabies' thread in the bulk section sweat.gif

EDIT: u can go for either the mylarone of the m100....either way im sure theyll sound good....good luck man

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post Mar 5 2007, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 5 2007, 07:38 PM)
1.u said that 16 ohm and 32 ohms have difference.16ohm has louder volume compare to 32ohm?and is sound quality affected by the OHM of headset?

then i think when i go lowyat i have 2 listen 2 the heaset 1 by 1.... flex.gif by the way, where can i buy razor pro m100 and Crossroad MylarOne at lowyat?

2. u prefer the sound quality of headphone but u also prefer the volume of IEM... sweat.gif i think its very hard for u 2 choose a suitable headset for urself!! sweat.gif haha....
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IEM provides isolation so that you wont have to crank up the volume so much. Protect your hearings. nod.gif
You will be surprised how those high end IEMs can perform.

QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 5 2007, 08:45 PM)
woot......Beyerdynamic DT990 '05 cost about RM600 le BROTHER!! sweat.gif  rclxub.gif  cool.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif i guess everyone has different interest....haha...

about the mylarone, i have seen the review u mentioned.tons of great review at there....but duno how izzit if compared 2 m100....and if my budget around RM100, is this the onli 2 best earphone (i wan earphone dun wan headphone tongue.gif ) for me to choose?got some more ma?cos if i go lowyat then can listen 1 by 1 ma...haha....jz nid 2 know the brand and product name....
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If you can get DT990 '5 for RM600, I will get from you 5 set. I think you din check the currency correctly? Is it in USD or other currency? Dont be surprised that a lot of people here already spend thousands in their setup.

As for mylarOne, most probably I am the sole distributor in msia. Not sure though. I will be at KL at 17~18 March...
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post Mar 6 2007, 08:25 AM

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i'm currently considering to buy a headphone. can anyone give me opinion bout phillips SHP895 and SHP8900? how different they are? i personally like the stand supplied with SHP895 biggrin.gif
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me planning to get a headphone bout rm100, many recommended phillips model, but d problem is i feel d headphones are not providing enough bass.

Songs i listen to are like trance, rock, basically all sort of songs. Seriously need a headphone as when i blast, it gets really loud, dont want to kacau parents especially at nite.

So, having a not so good headphone seriously is potong steam especially u know those climax part of a song where u expected d umph and it does not come.

anyone of u came across this koss dont know what model which is sold at all it, i think koss u2 or sth like that, which sells about rm99 or rm90, forgotten.


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post Mar 6 2007, 01:26 PM

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u want bass??? Koss Porta Pro.

BUT

they WILL kacau ur parents as they are open phones tongue.gif
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QUOTE(iamnofreak07 @ Mar 6 2007, 01:07 PM)
me planning to get a headphone bout rm100, many recommended phillips model, but d problem is i feel d headphones are not providing enough bass.

Songs i listen to are like trance, rock, basically all sort of songs. Seriously need a headphone as when i blast, it gets really loud, dont want to kacau parents especially at nite.

So, having a not so good headphone seriously is potong steam especially u know those climax part of a song where u expected d umph and it does not come.

anyone of u came across this koss dont know what model which is sold at all it, i think koss u2 or sth like that, which sells about rm99 or rm90, forgotten.
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SHP805 is bassy... Too much bass...
If you still think it's not enough bass I am not sure which phone I am going to recommend you...
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post Mar 6 2007, 02:04 PM

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might consider shp805, what bout d koss up2 or sth that is sold in all it, any recommendation?

thxs in advance for any replies, really appreciate it.
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can anyone tell me which brand of headphone can play 7.1 environment?
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QUOTE(walabies @ Mar 6 2007, 01:27 PM)
SHP805 is bassy... Too much bass...
If you still think it's not enough bass I am not sure which phone I am going to recommend you...
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yup too much bass. but i like it brows.gif and i think u will like it too imnofreak biggrin.gif
give it a try
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post Mar 6 2007, 07:22 PM

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anybody know which shop in lowyat plaza i can view all kinds of headphone?sennheiser, koss, creative , sony , razer pro?
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QUOTE(kaikiattan @ Mar 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
anybody know which shop in lowyat plaza i can view all kinds of headphone?sennheiser, koss, creative , sony , razer pro?
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Hmmm... I couldnt find them in Malaysia... sweat.gif
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post Mar 6 2007, 11:23 PM

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i have start a new thread in audiophile section...anyone can spare some time to go there to have a look?thx..... rclxms.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry10645081

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Looks like you are desperate to get a comparison. I believe what susuwatari says. smile.gif
Mylarone is 'somewhat' comparable to ER4p, which I am selling for 1k per phone...

Btw, if you are interested to know me in person, I can give you an audition of mylarone at Muar and treat me yam cha by that time. smile.gif

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post Mar 7 2007, 08:02 PM

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any nice headphone that i can get at the price at around rm50??
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:27 AM

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is ksc75 better than razer m250? i don like canal earphone as i am very sensitive to pressure, when i plug canal earphone in, i can feel slightly pain in my ear like when i am on the airplane. Can recommend me some headphone around rm100? I wan to use it with psp. How about plantronics headphone? it has microphone that i can use for skype. So many choices.. arrgh..

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