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 Nokia N8 - V29 - [The King of Camera Phones], Let's go underwater shooting with N8

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post May 29 2011, 02:01 PM

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Guys, any idea where can I get this in Penang? Or is it sold in LYN? And what's the market price?

http://www.nokia.com.my/find-product/acces...00-for-nokia-n8
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post May 29 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 29 2011, 11:58 AM)
Yup, it's still being used by many nonetheless; If don't want to support or provide, then just say it, don't give "lame" excuses; That's what I trying to say.

They can always give OPTION for the user. "Turn on support for Flash", then put a disclaimer.
Not providing and giving "lame" excuses is another story.
BUT anyway, I'm just nobody and they don't need EVERY TYPE of user to use their device, every device has its target users; Just like cars, there is different segment, different types, that suit different people.
Let's put it this way, if Windows given ONLY "Guest" account to the user, then as an admin, you have lots of control over the user and you have less worry what the user is capable of doing; If you can control they can only run 1 application at 1 time, not allow them to run certain programs, no access to certain features, etc. You can pretty much be sure there will be less complain to the user (unless they are intermediate-advance users).
The problem is iOS? They never give ANY OPTION to the user. Everyone is treated as the same, regardless you're "professional" or someone who have never used a computer before.

As for other "smartphone", perhaps they should make their OS "DEFAULT" as simple as possible, then the intermediate-advance users can choose to enable the advance options; But then, the "normal" users might ask, "How come your device can do this and mine can't".

Of course, you have to understand above usage of "account" is an EXAMPLE. In just like software development, we try to make it simple to the users and prevent them from making problems, etc.  Depending on the software you develop and user coverage, the simple part is, the software might be target to small scale (e.g. company, and there's not really the need to make the program/software "boombastic", BUT as a developer, we can always make it more flexible for the user through turning on certain options.)
For example: The search function, for most simple user, they just use the search. We don't give them the "Advanced Search" by default, the user can "choose" to use it, IF they know how to use it. Even if they starting out as SIMPLE user, then can eventually upgrade and learn. If we only LOCK them with simple search function, then next time they saw another software which offers "Advance Search", they'll be like point blank, and they said, I prefer the previous software, more easy to use? *HINT* this is also a "dirty" strategy to keep your user.

Just my cheap cheap 2 cents lah.
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Hmm, quite different from what I thought. WP7 won't be open sourced for sure, thus we can only rely on what Nokia chooses for us. I think what you want is already available somewhere. Both Android n iOS don't have a lot of those stock in-house apps like file manager etc. If you need those, you would need to download or buy them from Market. I think your idea are brilliant, but there's one catch. Those user who don't need those advance feature will ask whether or not they can pay for a simpler version of it. That will create diversion. Perhaps something like in apps purchase to unlock advance features. Just like early Android devices from HTC namely Legend n Desire. Only RM100 apart despite the big difference in hardware configuration.
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 29 2011, 01:54 PM)
Mmm doesn't matter la. Who the hell keep surfing on Flash websites on mobile? I mean a really flash websites, not like youtube and such.

I just wondered, why other smartphones manufacturer didn't make things like BIS? Cheap, yet sufficient for social sites-holic. Isn't more practical than paying an expensive bill for mobile broadband.
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I still kept my Legend with stock rom because I need Flash at times. In fact, I really hate iPhone cos it don't have an option to turn off mobile pages. Although you can still access it by loading the second time by choosing desktop version, but wasting bandwidth. I think S60v5 also have this option but disappeared in S3.
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post May 29 2011, 02:19 PM

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guys, I have two problems with my nEgg,
1) can't receive sms immediately, can't find it at my inbox as well, have to restart phone and the new messages will come in, sometimes sms came directly into my inbox without any notifications tone.
2) can't install some of the softwares, after installed can't find it at applications menu.
anyone can help?
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post May 29 2011, 02:48 PM

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So, I'll just be putting this here. tongue.gif

Any questions please refer to my secretary.

kthxbye.




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post May 29 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ May 29 2011, 03:48 PM)
So, I'll just be putting this here. tongue.gif

Any questions please refer to my secretary.

kthxbye.
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Woi! Mana boleh like that!? Must share share ma wub.gif tongue.gif
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post May 29 2011, 03:50 PM

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is that final version of anna?? biggrin.gif
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post May 29 2011, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ May 29 2011, 02:48 PM)
So, I'll just be putting this here. tongue.gif

Any questions please refer to my secretary.

kthxbye.
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post May 29 2011, 04:13 PM

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not me but someone at dailymobile,its custom version date is 26.52011 but its still beta

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post May 29 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(apecx92 @ May 29 2011, 04:13 PM)
not me but someone at dailymobile,its custom version date is 26.52011 but its still beta

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No matter wat I'm prepared to believe we won't get it til end of July.
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post May 29 2011, 05:06 PM

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Nokia N8 @ Putrajaya by thenokiagallery, on Flickr

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ May 29 2011, 05:06 PM)
wat event?
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QUOTE(botakbin @ May 29 2011, 05:10 PM)
wat event?
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Nokia N8 @ Putrajaya by thenokiagallery, on Flickr

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post May 29 2011, 05:22 PM

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Sifu, I want to ask. I think my shots in low light sucks too bad sad.gif
I know most cameras can't produce high quality images in low light. But this one so bad. I in my room at day time also so teruk. Fluorescent lamp on, and the walls are yellow, so they emit like this kind of glow to the room. What settings do you think should work good? I try a lot of sttings but cant find good one.. Anyway, I heard theres and app to capture Low Light images. What is the name?
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post May 29 2011, 05:48 PM

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when will anna out?
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post May 29 2011, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(mrfarhatadib89 @ May 29 2011, 05:48 PM)
when will anna out?
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approximately on june.
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post May 29 2011, 07:20 PM

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July is more likely, for Malaysia

Guys, any good recommendation for a financial planner app?
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post May 29 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 29 2011, 01:54 PM)
Mmm doesn't matter la. Who the hell keep surfing on Flash websites on mobile? I mean a really flash websites, not like youtube and such.

I just wondered, why other smartphones manufacturer didn't make things like BIS? Cheap, yet sufficient for social sites-holic. Isn't more practical than paying an expensive bill for mobile broadband.
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Why not? Hardwares are improving everyday; Actually, since late 2009, when N900 was introduced, it was already capable of running Full Flash website; One can browse Facebook just like Desktop version, that was on 2009, now it's already 2011. Yes, not everyone may be happy with the performance even with todays hardware; but that really depends on user, what do they want.

For me, I want a mobile computer that works as close to a real computer as possible. I've used computer since MS-DOS age, those processor and ram was like... sweat.gif and those who have been using dial-up internet connection, experience the speed, especially when downloading/uploading and playing online games back then... Nowadays? even it's actually not slow, people complains; My cousin complains how bad her internet connection was, when I check, yes it's slower than normal but it's not "that" bad. And, without proper understanding, people can't bear or accept why it's slow.
Example: a more technical/experience/knowledgeable user, when they experience problems, they will try to understand why and when they understand why, it makes a big difference and sometimes, they can choose to use it in a way it performs better or utilize it and bear with the drawback.

E.g. A phone has limited performance; you can keep it simple by turning everything off, no widgets, even turn off wallpaper, whatever and have better performance; while some maximize their usage. It'll be good if there's profile that can switch between the 2 or few. Usage is entire up to the user, the DIFFERENCE is... CHOICE.
One can buy a sports/racing car, and driving like a TURTLE to save fuel, or enjoy the drive everytime he/she drives knowing/understanding that it will consume a lot of fuel.
If someone who doesn't understand, buys a sports/racing car and revv it like mad everyday, then complains the car has high fuel consumption; Then it's the person's fault, don't blame the car.

QUOTE(andrekua @ May 29 2011, 02:02 PM)
Hmm, quite different from what I thought. WP7 won't be open sourced for sure, thus we can only rely on what Nokia chooses for us. I think what you want is already available somewhere. Both Android n iOS don't have a lot of those stock in-house apps like file manager etc. If you need those, you would need to download or buy them from Market. I think your idea are brilliant, but there's one catch. Those user who don't need those advance feature will ask whether or not they can pay for a simpler version of it. That will create diversion. Perhaps something like in apps purchase to unlock advance features. Just like early Android devices from HTC namely Legend n Desire. Only RM100 apart despite the big difference in hardware configuration.
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Well, it's MS after-all; For many end users, open or not, isn't really important, most important is the features, flexibility, stability, etc. For now, I would say it's not bad and interesting especially with "Mango" update.

As for the "catch", yea, I know this; It's like softwares, there's a LITE version VS a Full/Profesional version, OR, Windows 7 Home Basic, Windows 7 Home Premium and so on... BUT, then.... everything has a catch right? It also applies to hardware. If you provide a powerful phone, then there will be user who might say, I don't need so much power, I need cheaper phone, right?
Now, the difference is... SOFTWARE can easily be upgraded, no problem (e.g. you can upgrade Windows Home Basic to higher version). Maybe the only limitation would be, it's limited by the hardware. So, it's always better to give MORE than to give LESS.
Hence, my point, OPTIONS/CHOICE.
I would prefer to make the phone suit as many people as possible, they can make the software "default" in SIMPLE mode; It's up to the user to turn on the advance features as needed.

My personal view on Apple is, they prefer NOT to give ANY choice to the users; They prefer to be in control. It may not be a bad thing, just that, for more advanced users, they may not like it or have to live with it, or go underground. But then, it's up to the manufacturer; perhaps their target market is only those specific group of users, so they don't need to bother about those "professional" that complaints; As long as their product satisfy the customer group that they're targeting.

Anyway, above is my personal opinion and m cheap 2 cents; There's no wrong or right, the company choose their own decision and have their own target customer/users.

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post May 30 2011, 12:18 AM

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for me all smartphones todate ALL facing the battery limitation which i'm personaly VERY dislike... for me the batt MUST AT LEAST can last for a full 16 hours FULL POWER USE and so far not just the smartphones having the difficulties to realise this but MOST gadgets out there (notebool/pad/camera) also can't make it... what is good if u can't fully use the devices in prolong time?? todate all those so call dual/quad core processor for me are a gimmick that not really practical in use as most of the software out there are not yet reach to max out the processing power...

below are some of those so call future software capability that i'm looking for and who know when it will be realise in the future:

1. advance voice regconition to direct translate voice into text
2. smart search feature where will return extreme accurate search results
3. usage patttern learning which able to automate the device according to user daily usage
4. smart update FOTA that not require users interaction
5. server capability where the device can host as server to the net 24/7

the device developer no need to give all those bullshit excuse about all these as they're the developer... they're the one who need to scratch their head if they want to get the customers money...

and fo now the most processing hungry application would be all those related to HD contents and from the N8 usage i can say it seem the connectivity utilisation also facing some conflict example like how smart the device switching in between wifi/gsm/3g connections...

sigh... duapuluh sen shakehead.gif
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post May 30 2011, 12:48 AM

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Hehe... Full power usage for 16 hour? Don't say full power la, just talking on your phone (whatever model) for 16hours see can last bor? Ipad2 lasting for 10 hours? Not in my hands, 6 hours already almost flat. Wifi model some more. Hehehe... Don't use it, last 2 days also no problem, hehehe.

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