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post May 30 2011, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ May 30 2011, 12:18 AM)
for me all smartphones todate ALL facing the battery limitation which i'm personaly VERY dislike... for me the batt MUST AT LEAST can last for a full 16 hours FULL POWER USE and so far not just the smartphones having the difficulties to realise this but MOST gadgets out there (notebool/pad/camera) also can't make it... what is good if u can't fully use the devices in prolong time?? todate all those so call dual/quad core processor for me are a gimmick that not really practical in use as most of the software out there are not yet reach to max out the processing power...

below are some of those so call future software capability that i'm looking for and who know when it will be realise in the future:

1. advance voice regconition to direct translate voice into text
2. smart search feature where will return extreme accurate search results
3. usage patttern learning which able to automate the device according to user daily usage
4. smart update FOTA that not require users interaction
5. server capability where the device can host as server to the net 24/7

the device developer no need to give all those bullshit excuse about all these as they're the developer... they're the one who need to scratch their head if they want to get the customers money...

and fo now the most processing hungry application would be all those related to HD contents and from the N8 usage i can say it seem the connectivity utilisation also facing some conflict example like how smart the device switching in between wifi/gsm/3g connections...

sigh... duapuluh sen shakehead.gif
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this, i like.

and the possibility of windows phone having it in the future seems bright. if you're using windows xp onwards, you can see this in start menu, how they sort program list, and folders, the size of the window for certain folder, e.g music fodler, open shortcut, this folder already been resized to custom window size, custom layout.

heck, it does not make windows lag at all. imagine a pentium 3 600mhz processor during winxp reign era and today 1Ghz Snapdragon, wow, it's almost stupid why today mobile OS doesn't have function like this.
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post May 30 2011, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ May 30 2011, 12:18 AM)
below are some of those so call future software capability that i'm looking for and who know when it will be r

1. advance voice regconition to direct translate voice into text
2. smart search feature where will return extreme accurate search results
3. usage patttern learning which able to automate the device according to user daily usage
4. smart update FOTA that not require users interaction
5. server capability where the device can host as server to the net 24/7

sigh... duapuluh sen shakehead.gif
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1. Android has voice recognition but really depends on your sweet voice. If not sweet, many prediction errors
2. Call me when you beat Google, sure rich
3. Recording location data already violate privacy. Recording usage pattern, hmmm... Violate or not?
4. Violate privacy again.
5. You mean hotspot is it? Asking too much perhaps. Besides, how can it last 24/7 running on battery? Or you type wrong?


Added on May 30, 2011, 1:08 am
QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 30 2011, 12:55 AM)
this, i like.

and the possibility of windows phone having it in the future seems bright. if you're using windows xp onwards, you can see this in start menu, how they sort program list, and folders, the size of the window for certain folder, e.g music fodler, open shortcut, this folder already been resized to custom window size, custom layout.

heck, it does not make windows lag at all. imagine a pentium 3 600mhz processor during winxp reign era and today 1Ghz Snapdragon, wow, it's almost stupid why today mobile OS doesn't have function like this.
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Look very far. I don't think got this feature in Windows. You just set different view for folders. Windows don't sort them for you based on how often you access the files/programs. They just defragment the hard disk to accommodate files with higher usage on the early section of your harddisk. Is it necessary for sdcard or rom?

What kind of device are you thinking of? Custom window size for phones with 3-4" screen size?

This post has been edited by andrekua: May 30 2011, 01:08 AM
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post May 30 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ May 30 2011, 12:56 AM)
1. Android has voice recognition but really depends on your sweet voice. If not sweet, many prediction errors
2. Call me when you beat Google, sure rich
3. Recording location data already violate privacy. Recording usage pattern, hmmm... Violate or not?
4. Violate privacy again.
5. You mean hotspot is it? Asking too much perhaps. Besides, how can it last 24/7 running on battery? Or you type wrong?


Added on May 30, 2011, 1:08 am

Look very far. I don't think got this feature in Windows. You just set different view for folders. Windows don't sort them for you based on how often you access the files/programs. They just defragment the hard disk to accommodate files with higher usage on the early section of your harddisk. Is it necessary for sdcard or rom?

What kind of device are you thinking of? Custom window size for phones with 3-4" screen size?
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i mean the folder thingy, they can record our actions automatically without our intervention. the program list, jumplist in win7, that's a genius.

that kind of records things based on our daily usage without our authentication or intervention, something that we need todays smartphones.lets say you're the one who like to facebook, call, sms, twitter, your homescreen will show these 4 at top with subfuctions you use the most. Who the hell use voice SMS nowadays? Even MMS i think will slowly kaput with the emergence of twitter and facebook.

we don't need custom window size in mobile devices since it is too small to custom it to even a smaller size.

This kind of things, i think the one who can really pull this off is between Microsoft or Apple since those kind of things already been implemented in computer OSes. Just take a small portion of resources from OS R&D and put it into mobile OS R&D, speeds things up a bit, then we will see a really 'smart' smartphones.

Google, nah, they are experts in innovations. Look at their voice recognition, they can even recognize kecek Kelate (Kelantanese dialect)! Not to forget Google Goggles with augmentative recognition, that's a whole mind blowing things that..... not really practical in our daily life atleast for now. But to make Android as waht it is now, salut.
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post May 30 2011, 01:35 AM

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just wondering this is N8 thread right? this is symbian thread right? this not COMPARISON thread right? just wonder why bring all the compare here? should we open a thread name by: "NOKIA/SYMBIAN COMPARE AGAIN WHOLE WORLD!!"
how this suggestion? good? unsure.gif

BTW seem like there are some member/ranger is very active for past few days bring in those fruit and robot thing here to argue....wonder why ler? hmm.gif
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post May 30 2011, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ May 30 2011, 01:35 AM)
just wondering this is N8 thread right? this is symbian thread right? this not COMPARISON thread right? just wonder why bring all the compare here? should we open a thread name by: "NOKIA/SYMBIAN COMPARE AGAIN WHOLE WORLD!!"
how this suggestion? good? unsure.gif

BTW seem like there are some member/ranger is very active for past few days bring in those fruit and robot thing here to argue....wonder why ler? hmm.gif
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Told ya it's thx to my 1 feedback saying that when got free stuff then suddenly ranger get active whistling.gif
Andrekua was the first to refute that claim and it went downhill from then on rclxms.gif
Now to justify, have to compare lo
I'm just here to enjoy the drama anyway =p

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post May 30 2011, 01:46 AM

7 stars still not enough lah!!!!
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QUOTE(sklchan @ May 30 2011, 12:18 AM)
for me all smartphones todate ALL facing the battery limitation which i'm personaly VERY dislike... for me the batt MUST AT LEAST can last for a full 16 hours FULL POWER USE and so far not just the smartphones having the difficulties to realise this but MOST gadgets out there (notebool/pad/camera) also can't make it... what is good if u can't fully use the devices in prolong time?? todate all those so call dual/quad core processor for me are a gimmick that not really practical in use as most of the software out there are not yet reach to max out the processing power...

below are some of those so call future software capability that i'm looking for and who know when it will be realise in the future:

1. advance voice regconition to direct translate voice into text
2. smart search feature where will return extreme accurate search results
3. usage patttern learning which able to automate the device according to user daily usage
4. smart update FOTA that not require users interaction
5. server capability where the device can host as server to the net 24/7

the device developer no need to give all those bullshit excuse about all these as they're the developer... they're the one who need to scratch their head if they want to get the customers money...

and fo now the most processing hungry application would be all those related to HD contents and from the N8 usage i can say it seem the connectivity utilisation also facing some conflict example like how smart the device switching in between wifi/gsm/3g connections...

sigh... duapuluh sen shakehead.gif
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todate technology able to provide king kong size screen, but sadly only provide monkey size battery to pair with those big screen sweat.gif dont know when will next generation pop-up to save us laugh.gif
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post May 30 2011, 01:48 AM

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comparison is a must.clear guidance/reference for those who like to buy n8.isnt it?comparison make improvement as well.
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post May 30 2011, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ May 30 2011, 01:35 AM)
just wondering this is N8 thread right? this is symbian thread right? this not COMPARISON thread right? just wonder why bring all the compare here? should we open a thread name by: "NOKIA/SYMBIAN COMPARE AGAIN WHOLE WORLD!!"
how this suggestion? good? unsure.gif

BTW seem like there are some member/ranger is very active for past few days bring in those fruit and robot thing here to argue....wonder why ler? hmm.gif
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suggest us what kind of thing should we discuss here. since:

1. we know symbian is a sinking platform. so as for now we just utilize what symbian can offer to the max as time permits.
2. everyone have different taste. i'm not the kind of into things like molome and such. same as few other fellow forumer/ranger here. they're nagging that we didn't active in this thread anymore for quite some time yet N8 thread can reach a whopping v29 and be filled with crappy ramblings and make other new N8 users afraid to come here when they're saw this thread is like a territory to some people. i did not see this happen in other symbian specific thread.
3. we still hoping that nokia malaysia monitoring this thread. in next few months time, it will be the start of nokia transition to wp7. and i hope some of the discussion here can be put into their attention.
4. we're just bored. just to kill some times. tongue.gif just some hours before i go to my industrial practical and don't know what to do in these short holidays.

other forumers who want to discuss anything about tech and have some 'knowledgeable input are most welcome here. lai lai..... rclxms.gif

and also, we are free to come and go from this thread, since we have life too, we don't feed 'dramas' to some people here. whistling.gif our dear bro andrekua are older than most of you guys here, i bet he's got 2 kids finishing secondary school waiting to go for collage, and i think he don't give a damn bout dramas here very much. same goes with other guys.

This post has been edited by HexPhoenix: May 30 2011, 01:58 AM
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post May 30 2011, 01:52 AM

7 stars still not enough lah!!!!
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QUOTE(RiuK3n @ May 30 2011, 01:44 AM)
Told ya it's thx to my 1 feedback saying that when got free stuff then suddenly ranger get active  whistling.gif
Andrekua was the first to refute that claim and it went downhill from then on  rclxms.gif
Now to justify, have to compare lo
I'm just here to enjoy the drama anyway =p

"Ignite the spark and watch it burn in flames"
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so they come back bring alone those fruit and robot thing to compare here and there cos of Free stuff!!!

thanks for enlighten me notworthy.gif ....sorry that i NOT soooo active for weeks sweat.gif
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 30 2011, 01:52 AM)
and also, we are free to come and go from this thread, since we have life too, we don't feed 'dramas' to some people here. whistling.gif  our dear bro andrekua are older than most of you guys here, i bet he's got 2 kids finishing secondary school waiting to go for collage, and i think he don't give a damn bout dramas here very much. same goes with other guys.
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blink.gif he has kids??? but he replies like ...... kid? hmm.gif hmm.gif i see i see doh.gif
i think we shld remind ourselves ( no offense ) this "Is not about technology, is what you do with with it" , i think most sifus here know what im saying biggrin.gif
N8 may not be a sniper riffle from hollywood movie, till today i understand is potential and limits, comparison is okay but we cant always have the best things in life and we have to make do on what we have currently.
(hope that kid wont HUHA this post)
i have no 2 cents in my pocket rite now only my N8 biggrin.gif

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post May 30 2011, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(acemaster15 @ May 30 2011, 02:06 AM)
blink.gif he has kids??? but he replies like ...... kid?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif i see i see  doh.gif 
i think we shld remind ourselves ( no offense )  this "Is not about technology, is what you do with with it" , i think most sifus here know what im saying biggrin.gif
N8 may not be a sniper riffle from hollywood movie, till today i understand is potential and limits, comparison is okay but we cant always have the best things in life and we have to make do on what we have currently.
(hope that kid wont HUHA this post)
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don't judge books by its cover. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 30 2011, 02:11 AM)
don't judge books by its cover.  cool2.gif
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+1 didnt think he was older biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(acemaster15 @ May 30 2011, 02:14 AM)
+1 didnt think he was older biggrin.gif
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Me too, nvr once occurred to me that he was older shocking.gif
It just doesn't click

For those who "have their own life" or "too mature" to not enjoy the drama then it's up to them
Enjoying something does not proves if u r lifeless or maturity anyway tongue.gif
It only shows a difference in interest, that's all laugh.gif

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post May 30 2011, 04:31 AM

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im hunger for potrait keyboard naw. 2011 isn't a year for 3310 keyboard.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ May 30 2011, 01:48 AM)
comparison is a must.clear guidance/reference for those who like to buy n8.isnt it?comparison make improvement as well.
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 30 2011, 01:52 AM)
suggest us what kind of thing should we discuss here. since:

1. we know symbian is a sinking platform. so as for now we just utilize what symbian can offer to the max as time permits.
2. everyone have different taste. i'm not the kind of into things like molome and such. same as few other fellow forumer/ranger here. they're nagging that we didn't active in this thread anymore for quite some time yet N8 thread can reach a whopping v29 and be filled with crappy ramblings and make other new N8 users afraid to come here when they're saw this thread is like a territory to some people. i did not see this happen in other symbian specific thread.
3. we still hoping that nokia malaysia monitoring this thread. in next few months time, it will be the start of nokia transition to wp7. and i hope some of the discussion here can be put into their attention.
4. we're just bored. just to kill some times. tongue.gif just some hours before i go to my industrial practical and don't know what to do in these short holidays.

other forumers who want to discuss anything about tech and have some 'knowledgeable input are most welcome here. lai lai..... rclxms.gif

and also, we are free to come and go from this thread, since we have life too, we don't feed 'dramas' to some people here. whistling.gif  our dear bro andrekua are older than most of you guys here, i bet he's got 2 kids finishing secondary school waiting to go for collage, and i think he don't give a damn bout dramas here very much. same goes with other guys.
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I wished my son is finishing secondary school as well.

There are some things that you don't need explanations for it. There are so many comparisons being made and posted here regarding picture quality from xxx phone to xxx camera just to prove N8 godly camera, to Maemo superiority, to iPad gaming guide and screenshots, etc. No words from the sifu cos we all see what we see with our eyes who were responsible for it and not a word.

And we are not suppose to compare. As rangers, our main job is to receive freebies and more freebies in future, and be grateful to Nokia for finally giving something back to us for BEING a Nokia fans for the PAST 12years.. Since I was 18 and I'm 31 this year... You do the math...
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post May 30 2011, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ May 30 2011, 04:46 AM)
I wished my son is finishing secondary school as well.

There are some things that you don't need explanations for it. There are so many comparisons being made and posted here regarding picture quality from xxx phone to xxx camera just to prove N8 godly camera, to Maemo superiority, to iPad gaming guide and screenshots, etc. No words from the sifu cos we all see what we see with our eyes who were responsible for it and not a word.

And we are not suppose to compare. As rangers, our main job is to receive freebies and more freebies in future, and be grateful to Nokia for finally giving something back to us for BEING a Nokia fans for the PAST 12years.. Since I was 18 and I'm 31 this year... You do the math...
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eh, when i see you last year u look a lot older. i know sklchan and cloud also far older than the rest of us.... seems my eyes deceiving me.


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Nokia N8 @ Bored lil danbo by thenokiagallery, on Flickr

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ May 30 2011, 06:20 AM)
eh, when i see you last year u look a lot older. i know sklchan and cloud also far older than the rest of us.... seems my eyes deceiving me.
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maybe children reach in some stage like teenager stage (叛逆期) then will make parents faster aging kut.. tongue.gif
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This thread had becoming more and more intense. sad.gif

Anyway, a friend just roped me into being a vet's volunteer to distribute fliers at Pet World Expo, so I'll be there three day distributing fliers and snapping cute pets! Yeay! (not to mention i'll get free entry for all three days.) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ May 30 2011, 01:35 AM)
just wondering this is N8 thread right? this is symbian thread right? this not COMPARISON thread right? just wonder why bring all the compare here? should we open a thread name by: "NOKIA/SYMBIAN COMPARE AGAIN WHOLE WORLD!!"
how this suggestion? good? unsure.gif

BTW seem like there are some member/ranger is very active for past few days bring in those fruit and robot thing here to argue....wonder why ler? hmm.gif
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Don't forget WP7 tongue.gif

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