If subject can stand still, 1/50s also OK. Anyway, about your pic. Be aware of the skintone and the WB.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Apr 24 2011, 11:16 PM

No; Newer products should usually be better, but if it's intended for a specific category, then it stays there; Never get confused with it's categeory/classifications.

This usually happens for automobiles; Newer car gets bigger in size, better in specs; It may be as big as the older generation which is higher in class, but that doesn't mean it's replacing that category.

B Segment: Vios, City, etc
C Segment: Altis, Civic, etc
D Segment: Camry, Accord, etc

If you see the old generation cars, they're pretty small in size, nowadays, Accord is HUGE...
Because cars keep growing in size and specs keep changes, or prices; People tend to get confused easily, especialyl when they are NOT familiar with the car.
Example: Peugeot 407, the CKD version is priced very attractively and prices brought down and specs went up; The downside? People confused by the pricing and due to european cars changes their model less frequently (the competitors already replaced with bigger models), people tend to confused and thought it's the same category and class as the Civic/Altis; But it's actually a D Segment, same as Camry and Accord.
The problem? Well, the price is closely priced to a C Segment, but it's a D Segment car and specs are better than many D Segment; So, it means, the car is very well spec and priced. BUT, when people confused and think it's a C Segment, the table turned, the price is no longer so attractive.

So, it's important not to get confused with the category of each model, as it will affect it's overall image, and it's competitors.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Apr 24 2011, 11:22 PM

Hmm if I make it this way, 7D > D7000 > 60D, looks better eh?
I know it's kinda hard to justify a Nikon body of equivalent Canon, they're quite similar but not the same.

@Andy214, I guess you kinda got my question wrongly.

No, I did not.

D300S is same category as Canon's 7D
D7000 replaces D90, which is same category with Canon's 60D (which replaces 50D)
D5100 replaces D5000, which is same category with Canon's 600D (which replaces 550D)
D3100 replaces D3000, which is same category with Canon's 1100D (which replaces 1000D)


As I said in previous post before this, newer models usually improves and becomes better. You can't take D7000 and say compared it against some OLD generation outdated model that is in the higher category and say, hey this is BETTER so this should sit above it.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Apr 24 2011, 11:40 PM

Looks more vibrant compared to?

I use 1/80s or 1/100s on my 85mm.

I would put it this way... D3x / 1Dsmk3 -> D3s/D3/1Dmk4 -> D700/5Dmk2 -> D300s/7D -> D7000 -> D90/60D/D5100

Actually that D7000 and D90 a bit harder to classify.. D90 is more like advanced entry.. the D7000 more like a 'lite version' of the semi pros...

Actually, this is more like personal opinion or personal classification; Just like a car, we get newer technology cars which is better in specs and so on, we may think it "should" be above this class, although it's actually belongs to this class.
D7000 specs are good, and due to the model numbering, it leads to many confusion or people to think which one it replaces.

As following the category, we can probably say it's among the best of it's class.

ic...
so no battery in d body...?

new d3 user reported in

For me, I classify DSLR into 3 category.

Pro -> Integrated grip, single digits designation.. this one no confusion of course.

Semi Pro -> Optional battery grip, magnesium alloy body, weather seal, advance AF blablah... Eg, D700/D300s, from Canon its the 5Dmk2, 7D and 50D type..

Entry -> D3100, D5100, 1100D, 600D... only single dial... most items need to set from menu...

Now the D90/60D is more or less in similar range... dual commander dials... top LCD... sort of advance entry level..

The D7000 is the odd one out, with magnesium alloy body + weather sealing... its either the best among advance entry.. or just a 'lite' semi pro.

Yeap.

nice info's absorb for tonite..gudnite all..

ok...
thx bro...
currently next item is a bag...
current looking @ lowepro fastpack 250...
as it meets most of my requirement for bag...
ani other suggestion...?
flipside 300 is under consideration...
but without laptop...
as i think i'll go for laptop one 1st...

a non weather sealed nikon D700.

omg what happened to the D700 ???

no idea. it just terkopek like this. LOL

Sorry might have misunderstood your this post.

Thanks everyone, I think it pretty much clear things up for me.

see my siggy and let my siggy's slogan makes the things clear

pls comment. newbie.

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This post has been edited by scotty: Apr 25 2011, 12:58 AM

There's one unker doing same thing at Canon's thread.

gonna zZZz already ! gdnite all nikon fanboys